yea baby
hope the yanks step up this year
First full year under Jr's reign, Like to see him make a name for himself
Hopefully the new stadium will fall down.
Quote from: Jobu on December 11, 2008, 07:28:41 AM
Hopefully the new stadium will fall down.
Only if the company I work for gets paid to do our work again on it's replacement.
He'll choke. CC is overrated...although he did have a good season with the Brewers this year after beging traded. Keep in mind...that is the national League though where it is easier to pitch. Now he's back in the American League with the DH. I'd love to see his career ERA vs. the Red Sox.
Also...7 years @ 130 Million, right? Give me a break! :o
Quote from: Jobu on December 11, 2008, 07:28:41 AM
Hopefully the new stadium will fall down.
thats not very nice
Quote from: Jobu on December 11, 2008, 07:28:41 AM
Hopefully the new stadium will fall down.
Whaddya expect....
I mean the winingest franchise in proffessional sports history is bound to have a few enemies
Quote from: Triple J on December 11, 2008, 09:04:25 AM
I'd love to see his career ERA vs. the Red Sox.
IIRC it's like 3.65 which is still pretty good.
This is just another case of the Yankees trying to buy a championship. I hate the Yankees simply because I'm a Red Sox fan. And although that should be enough, I also hate them because of the way they do business.
I can remember when they won all those championships in the late 90's. I hated them then too but it was more because of jealousy because they won all the time. But at least back then I had respect for them. They won with alot of home grown talent like Orlando Hernandez, Ramiro Mendoza, Andy Pettitte, Mariano Rivera, Derek Jeter, Bernie Williams, Alfonso Soriano, and Jorge Posada. It's funny even Joe Girardi was on that team. there were others too but I just can't think of them right now.
The Red Sox are more like that now. Look at all the home grown talent they have on thier team. How can you not respect a team that builds the core group of players from within their system.
Quote from: Monstermash on December 11, 2008, 04:46:54 PM
IIRC it's like 3.65 which is still pretty good.
That would be pretty good. I can't believe I can't find his stats vs. specific teams on the net. ???
I still say he's overrated though...I guess we'll see.
I'm with ya on the Yankees. I hate the Red Sux too though...go A's. ;D
Quote from: IRISH on December 11, 2008, 11:09:05 AM
Whaddya expect....
I mean the winingest franchise in proffessional sports history is bound to have a few enemies
Yep. And I'm not even a diehard Boston fan. You either like the Yankees or you don't.
And if you become a Yankees fan (i.e. you weren't born a fan or been a fan for 20+ years) then you need psychological help.
The Yankees had respectable teams in the mid to late nineties, especially the superstarless 1998 team with 114 wins.
But since then, it has been a make the beast with two backsing joke. We don't want to win a championship anymore, we'll just buy one. And if that doesn't work, then we'll fire our coach. The coach who the Yankees watched in the post season this year. [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
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Quote from: Rameses on December 11, 2008, 09:58:17 PM
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Quote from: That Nice Guy Beck! on December 12, 2008, 12:30:55 PM
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That was then...
This is now...
;)
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nice job by the yankees in bidding against themselves... looks like a waste of money on a guy who can't even dedicate himself to getting physically fit... fat slob is bound for the DL this year after getting the equally fat contract
Quote from: Magnus on December 12, 2008, 04:43:23 PM
nice job by the yankees in bidding against themselves... looks like a waste of money on a guy who can't even dedicate himself to getting physically fit... fat slob is bound for the DL this year after getting the equally fat contract
all pitchers are fat, babe ruth was fat. whats your point?
yanks are the greatest ever !!!
Quote from: That Nice Guy Beck! on December 12, 2008, 05:29:12 PM
all pitchers are fat, babe ruth was fat. whats your point?
yanks are the greatest ever !!!
"All pitchers are fat"??
Randy Johnson disagrees.
Greatest ever at what? Passing the time?? Ill give you that.....
Yanks sure have been good at buying titles in recent years. At least, they've spent the money.
How'd that work out for them this decade so far?
Quote from: That Nice Guy Beck! on December 12, 2008, 05:29:12 PM
all pitchers are fat, babe ruth was fat. whats your point?
yanks are the greatest ever !!!
Yeah the Yanks are the greatest ever! Just look to their world championship last year.....Oh wait.....that was the year before......Oh wait.....No lemme think...
Oh yeah, thats right! 8 YEARS AGO!!!!!!!!!
The greatest ever my ass. Even IF they win this year which they won't, they'll still be criticized for buying a championship. How can you say they are the greatest ever when they have had the highest payroll in professional sports for the last 8 years and haven't won shit?
Buying a championship by spending $240,000,000 on a team is like Casey Stoner racing in the moto GP against 12 year olds riding Ninja 250's
The fact is the Yankees should be embarrassed by the fact that they spend so much money on a team that can't seem to win. And talk about embarrassing, look at the way they ran Torre out of town. He was a class act. Thay acted like he was the reason why they weren't winning. Yeah ok Hank, put down the crack pipe. He seemed to do ok in L.A. no?
YANKEES SUCK!!!!
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;D
That was the best part of any baseball game Ive ever seen!
Whats better than seeing two fat, out of shape old tobacco chewing millionaires rolling around in the dirt??
Quote from: Monstermash on December 12, 2008, 07:40:29 PM
Yeah the Yanks are the greatest ever! Just look to their world championship last year.....Oh wait.....that was the year before......Oh wait.....No lemme think...
Oh yeah, thats right! 8 YEARS AGO!!!!!!!!!
The greatest ever my ass. Even IF they win this year which they won't, they'll still be criticized for buying a championship. How can you say they are the greatest ever when they have had the highest payroll in professional sports for the last 8 years and haven't won shit?
Buying a championship by spending $240,000,000 on a team is like Casey Stoner racing in the moto GP against 12 year olds riding Ninja 250's
The fact is the Yankees should be embarrassed by the fact that they spend so much money on a team that can't seem to win. And talk about embarrassing, look at the way they ran Torre out of town. He was a class act. Thay acted like he was the reason why they weren't winning. Yeah ok Hank, put down the crack pipe. He seemed to do ok in L.A. no?
YANKEES SUCK!!!!
yea ok friend, the yanks suck?
hands down best team in baseball
every players dream to wear those stripes
yea they spend tons of money because ITS A BUSINESS and they are the most PROFITABLE franchise
lets face it if your teams owner was serious about WINNING he would shell out the big bucks for the best players
its like racing you spend money on the best engine, best parts and best driver and you WIN
dont worry they are going through a transition.... they'll win this year mark my words.
Quote from: That Nice Guy Beck! on December 13, 2008, 08:32:52 AM
hands down best team in baseball
If they are so great then why haven't they won in 8 years?
Quote from: That Nice Guy Beck! on December 13, 2008, 08:32:52 AM
every players dream to wear those stripes
Then why do they have to shell out so much money to get all those players to play there?
If it was such a dream then the playere would gladly take a discount to play there right?
Face it, they don't have the right chemistry there. All those inflated egos have a hard time playing together. The way you win now is by developing a good farm system and bringing up the home grown talent like the Red Sox have been doing for the past 6 years or so.
As I mentioned in an earlier post, the Yankees had great teams back in the late 90's with all their home grown players. Spending a gazillion dollars to buy a team never works. The Red Sox tried to do that for years under Dan Duquette. They spent tons of money and traded away all their young talent for veterans to try and win and look where it got them. Until the current regime started focusing on player development they went nowhere. And while it's nice to make the payoffs every year, I would trade a World Series title every ten years for playoffs every year.
I'd be shocked if the Yankees win the series this year. Yeah, C.C. and AJ are great pick ups but they have to stay healthy. AJ has a habit of winding up on the DL and C.C. isn't exactly in the best shape. They would have been better off going after Ben Sheets and K-Rod. Mo Rivera is about 200 years old now so whats going to happen if he winds up on the DL? The Yankees are make the beast with two backsed, thats what.
Yankees are the greatest sports franchise ever. I look at it this way; the owners put THEIR money back in THEIR team. I dont care what you say 26 Championships is bad a$$. Its easy to tell who here is a true baseball fan because most of the members of the team are home grown..not bought Yea they bought CC and AJ, but who cares its their money.
Quote from: lwszabo on December 15, 2008, 10:45:36 AM
Its easy to tell who here is a true baseball fan because most of the members of the team are home grown..not bought Yea they bought CC and AJ, but who cares its their money.
They're getting better...because they haven't won by buying a team...but they were definitely not home grown in very recent times.
Sheffield
Giambi
Damon
Matsui
Rodriguez
a whole slew of starting pitchers, most of whom failed
...and I know I'm forgetting a few.
I actually have no problem with the Yankees spending their money. I think there does need to be a salary cap in MLB though, because some teams have an unfair dollar advantage. NYC is easily the biggest market in the country (even with 2 teams), and the Yanks deal with the YES network makes them a TON of money. Compare that with the Oakland A's (2nd most winningest baseball franchise) and you see the disparity.
oh...and I still think CC will choke. Expect an ERA north of 4 next season for him.
Quote from: Triple J on December 15, 2008, 11:05:31 AM
They're getting better...because they haven't won by buying a team...but they were definitely not home grown in very recent times.
Sheffield
Giambi
Damon
Matsui
Rodriguez
a whole slew of starting pitchers, most of whom failed
...and I know I'm forgetting a few.
This is exactly my point. They haven't won since they stopped developing talent and started buying it.
Quote from: Triple J on December 15, 2008, 11:05:31 AM
They're getting better...because they haven't won by buying a team...but they were definitely not home grown in very recent times.
Sheffield
Giambi
Damon
Matsui
Rodriguez
a whole slew of starting pitchers, most of whom failed
...and I know I'm forgetting a few.
I actually have no problem with the Yankees spending their money. I think there does need to be a salary cap in MLB though, because some teams have an unfair dollar advantage. NYC is easily the biggest market in the country (even with 2 teams), and the Yanks deal with the YES network makes them a TON of money. Compare that with the Oakland A's (2nd most winningest baseball franchise) and you see the disparity.
oh...and I still think CC will choke. Expect an ERA north of 4 next season for him.
Huges
coke
Jeter
cano
cabrerra
chamberlin
Gardner
ransom
perez
S. Ducan
britton
bruney
I am getting sick of typing, but all arte hom,egrown, all have played in the majors. I know they have not won in a while, but #27 is VERY close...mark my words. [bow_down]
Quote from: lwszabo on December 16, 2008, 06:34:36 AM
Huges
coke
Jeter
cano
cabrerra
chamberlin
Gardner
ransom
perez
S. Ducan
britton
bruney
I am getting sick of typing, but all arte hom,egrown, all have played in the majors. I know they have not won in a while, but #27 is VERY close...mark my words. [bow_down]
Who are these guys? Yeah they might be home grown but if they don't have an impact who cares?
As far as the others the only one who even matter so far is Jeter. The rest haven't won shit. Look a Joba, what a choke artist.
If you are going to tout a bunch of players because they came up in the system at least mention some who matter.
When it comes to home grown talent the Red Sox have the lock on that right now.
Youkilis
Pedroia
Papelbon
Lester
Buchholz
Delcarmen
Masterson
Lowrie
Ellsbury
All these players came up through the Boston system and have contributed to a World Series title.
Quote from: Monstermash on December 16, 2008, 07:56:52 AM
Who are these guys? Yeah they might be home grown but if they don't have an impact who cares?
+1
Gimme a break. I know your a Yankee fan lwszabo, but at least TRY to be objective about it. [laugh] The FACT is the Yanks have been trying to buy a team since the late '90s. Recently they're getting away from that a bit...but they still have a higher free agent payroll than
anyone in baseball.
Quote from: Monstermash on December 16, 2008, 07:56:52 AM
When it comes to home grown talent the Red Sox have the lock on that right now.
Don't get too crazy now. Boston does their share of free agent signing. But agreed, they're leaps and bounds better than the Yanks in that regard.
Actually, the A's have the lock on home grown talent...problem is they ship them all off. Look at everyone's roster around MLB. [laugh] :'(
This is just a little bump in the road for the Yanks. Give them a little time, they'll be back on track.
As for you Boston fans, let it go. All this hate isn't good for you.
Quote from: Triple J on December 16, 2008, 08:37:19 AM
+1
Gimme a break. I know your a Yankee fan lwszabo, but at least TRY to be objective about it. [laugh] The FACT is the Yanks have been trying to buy a team since the late '90s. Recently they're getting away from that a bit...but they still have a higher free agent payroll than anyone in baseball.
Don't get too crazy now. Boston does their share of free agent signing. But agreed, they're leaps and bounds better than the Yanks in that regard.
Actually, the A's have the lock on home grown talent...problem is they ship them all off. Look at everyone's roster around MLB. [laugh] :'(
Agreed but because they haven't won and they don't keep them seems to make it a moot point.
I'd like to see the number of current players that came up through the TB Rays system and contributed the their success this year. What they did this year was incredible.
Quote from: red duke on December 16, 2008, 08:47:01 AM
This is just a little bump in the road for the Yanks. Give them a little time, they'll be back on track.
As for you Boston fans, let it go. All this hate isn't good for you.
Frank! You're a Yankees fan? And to think I used to like you! [laugh]
I think you've got it all wrong man. Have you ever gone to a Sox/Yankees game in Yankee stadium? Talk about hate..... The Yankees fans throw bottles, food, and spit on you if you show up wearing anything that says Red Sox on it.
At least at Fenway all the Sox fans do is antagonize the Yankees fans.
Furthermore, I wouldn't call it hate at least as far as I'm concerned. I'll admit I was jealous of the Yankees for a long time. All they did was win and it got old. But, back then they did it with class and dignity which is more than I can say for them now. I mean come on, what was the point in firing Joe Torre? He is probably one of the best managers the game has ever seen and the make the beast with two backsing Yankees use him as a scapegoat because their front office can't seem to put a team together that can win. That was the biggest example of classless behavior I've seen in recent memory.
I still can't understand why they can't win now. With all the superstar players they have they should win every year. I guess all those big egos can't play well together.
I have no respect for the current Yankees regime. They don't care how much they spend or who they spend it on. That became obvious with Giambi. The guy is a peice of shit right up there with Bonds. I have to include Pettite in that group too which I hate to say because I've always likes/respected him. At least when he got caught he stood up and admitted it.
And remember the bush league A-Rod play in 07 when he stood behind the Blue Jays player and called him off on a fly ball. And what about in 04 during the ALCS when he tried to slap the ball out of Bronson Arroyo's glove? It's stuff like that that makes me have no respect for them now.
who is CC?
Quote from: Monstermash on December 16, 2008, 09:15:18 AM
That became obvious with Giambi. The guy is a peice of shit right up there with Bonds.
Wait a minute! Giambi is
nowhere near Bonds in the asshat category.
First...Giambi has admitted to taking steriods...and
apologized to the fans. I don't blame him for taking them, as a lot of ML players were at the time. But I applaud him for the apology. He may have danced around the words a bit during his apology press conference a few years ago...but we all knew what he was talking about, and so would have you given the prospect (at the time) of jail time.
Second...Giambi is just a good guy. He was always great to the oakland fans, and was often spotted on his HD at Hegenburger (the local burger joint in Oaktown). I doubt he tuned into an asshole upon arriving in NY. Although his new haircut there made him look like one! [laugh]
The only reason Giambi sucks now is because that shit head turned down the A's offer ($120M) to play for the stinkin' Yankees. I truly believe if he would have stayed the A's would have won the Series the next year, as they would have had the big bat they were missing...and the Big 3 were all still kicking ass.
Bonds on the other hand is just a giant douchebag. he still has never admitted to taking 'roids...let alone apologized. He also has always been an asshole to the fans.
Quote from: rgramjet on December 12, 2008, 06:41:17 PM
"All pitchers are fat"??
Randy Johnson disagrees.
Greatest ever at what? Passing the time?? Ill give you that.....
26 world championships
twenty six.
Quote from: That Nice Guy Beck! on December 16, 2008, 09:49:11 AM
26 world championships
twenty six.
26 time world series champions!!!!!!!!
Quote from: Monstermash on December 16, 2008, 07:56:52 AM
Who are these guys? Yeah they might be home grown but if they don't have an impact who cares?
As far as the others the only one who even matter so far is Jeter. The rest haven't won shit. Look a Joba, what a choke artist.
If you are going to tout a bunch of players because they came up in the system at least mention some who matter.
When it comes to home grown talent the Red Sox have the lock on that right now.
Youkilis
Pedroia
Papelbon
Lester
Buchholz
Delcarmen
Masterson
Lowrie
Ellsbury
All these players came up through the Boston system and have contributed to a World Series title.
Wow you dont watch much baseball do you! They may not be Jeter, a-rod, etc...but they are the names of Yankees who came up last year when the Yanks were out of it and ALMOST (I know ) got them in the playoffs I will give Bostom credit, they are the real deal...but 26 time champ is big time!
end of story.
26 World Championship teams
39 American League pennant winners
Year Won Lost Pct. GA Manager WS Opponent W L
1921 98 55 .641 4.5 Miller Huggins Giants 3 5
1922 94 60 .610 1.0 Miller Huggins Giants*** 0 4
1923* 98 54 .645 16.0 Miller Huggins Giants 4 2
1926 91 63 .591 3.0 Miller Huggins Cardinals 3 4
1927* 110 44 .714 19.0 Miller Huggins Pirates 4 0
1928* 101 53 .656 2.5 Miller Huggins Cardinals 4 0
1932* 107 47 .695 13.0 Joe McCarthy Cubs 4 0
1936* 102 51 .667 19.5 Joe McCarthy Giants 4 2
1937* 102 52 .662 13.0 Joe McCarthy Giants 4 1
1938* 99 53 .651 9.5 Joe McCarthy Cubs 4 0
1939* 106 45 .702 17.0 Joe McCarthy Reds 4 0
1941* 101 53 .656 17.0 Joe McCarthy Dodgers 4 1
1942 103 51 .689 9.0 Joe McCarthy Cardinals 1 4
1943* 98 56 .636 13.5 Joe McCarthy Cardinals 4 1
1947* 97 57 630 12.0 Bucky Harris Dodgers 4 3
1949* 97 57 .630 1.0 Casey Stengel Dodgers 4 1
1950* 98 56 .636 3.0 Casey Stengel Phillies 4 0
1951* 98 56 .636 5.0 Casey Stengel Giants 4 2
1952* 95 59 .617 2.0 Casey Stengel Dodgers 4 3
1953* 99 52 .656 8.5 Casey Stengel Dodgers 4 2
1955 96 58 .623 3.0 Casey Stengel Dodgers 3 4
1956* 97 57 .630 9.0 Casey Stengel Dodgers 4 3
1957 98 56 .636 8.0 Casey Stengel Braves 3 4
1958* 92 62 .597 10.0 Casey Stengel Braves 4 3
1960 97 57 .630 8.0 Casey Stengel Pirates 3 4
1961* 109 53 .673 8.0 Ralph Houk Reds 4 1
1962* 96 66 .593 5.0 Ralph Houk Giants 4 3
1963 104 57 .646 10.5 Ralph Houk Dodgers 0 4
1964 99 63 .611 1.0 Yogi Berra Cardinals 3 4
1976 97 62 .610 10.5 Billy Martin Reds 0 4
1977* 100 62 .617 2.5 Billy Martin Dodgers 4 2
1978* 100 63 .613 1.0 Billy Martin-Bob Lemon Dodgers 4 2
1981** 34 22 .607 2.0 Gene Michael
25 26 .490 -5.0 Gene Michael-Bob Lemon Dodgers 2 4
1996* 92 70 .568 4.0 Joe Torre Braves 4 2
1998* 114 48 .704 22.0 Joe Torre Padres 4 0
1999* 98 64 .605 4.0 Joe Torre Braves 4 0
2000* 87 74 .540 2.5 Joe Torre Mets 4 1
2001 95 65 .594 13.5 Joe Torre Diamondbacks 3 4
2003 101 61 .623 6.0 Joe Torre Marlins 2 4
Quote from: Monstermash on December 16, 2008, 08:52:10 AM
Agreed but because they haven't won and they don't keep them seems to make it a moot point.
Sure they've won...just not a World Series recently. They have made the playoffs most of the years since Beane has taken over though...which demonstrates the effectiveness of their minor league system. The fact that other teams want their players also shows how effective their minor league program is.
It does suck they can't afford to keep anyone though. :'(
Quote from: Triple J on December 16, 2008, 09:24:26 AM
Wait a minute! Giambi is nowhere near Bonds in the asshat category.
First...Giambi has admitted to taking steriods...and apologized to the fans.
Sorry but I disagree. Giambi did NOT admit to anything nor did he apologize for taking steroids. He did admit to
something but never publicly uttered the word steroid. He did admit to it in Grand Jury testimony.
And yes he did
apologize but for what? Again he never said what he was apologizing for, just that he was sorry. In both of these cases i am referring to his press conference.
Quote from: lwszabo on December 16, 2008, 09:55:35 AM
Wow you dont watch much baseball do you! They may not be Jeter, a-rod, etc...but they are the names of Yankees who came up last year when the Yanks were out of it and ALMOST (I know ) got them in the playoffs I will give Bostom credit, they are the real deal...but 26 time champ is big time!
Actually I do watch a lot of baseball. My point was not that those player are completely anonymous, just that they haven't done anything to help the team win a championship. You can fill your roster with home grown talent but it you don't win championships who cares?
Just curious, where are all the players that came up through the Yankees system over the past 8 years or so? They have all been traded away for aging stars to try and win a WS. Hey, Boston was guilty of it for years as well.