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Title: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Mother on January 07, 2009, 03:47:22 PM
as many of you who have met me know

I like to drink

but

it appears that I may be on the wagon against my will

the last 3 times I have partaken in the beverage from the gods (edit* without being under the heavy influence of denial so more like the last 15 times)

on the first drink

Instant horrible headache

and nausea on as little as 2 beers

Drinking really expensive vodka means no nausea but still get the brutal headache

as little as 2-4 drinks over the course of a night will result in a week long hangover

and

what can only be described as moderate depression

Also regular pop makes me feel like shit

and I cannot stand the taste of aspartame

this is going to force me to become healthy and that can only suck

who wants to live until you are shitting in diapers again?
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Oldfisti on January 07, 2009, 03:51:54 PM
Smoke weed instead.               ;)
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Mother on January 07, 2009, 03:54:03 PM
Quote from: alfisti on January 07, 2009, 03:51:54 PM
Smoke weed instead.               ;)

can't do that either

you know that guy you smoke with that gets all needy and can't be left alone?

will follow you around everywhere and gets all paranoid?

I'm that guy on pot  :-[

Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Bun-bun on January 07, 2009, 03:57:04 PM
Not to ba alarmist, but have you gone to a Dr. about this?
Sudden changes like you describe can be symptoms of a more serious problem than sobriety.
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Speedbag on January 07, 2009, 03:57:37 PM
Quote from: Mother on January 07, 2009, 03:54:03 PM
can't do that either

you know that guy you smoke with that gets all needy and can't be left alone?

will follow you around everywhere and gets all paranoid?

I'm that guy on pot  :-[



Damn, dude.  :(

(puff) (drink)
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: jdubbs32584 on January 07, 2009, 03:59:35 PM
So.....does that make me an enabler on the alcohol thing since I can't put away the Jamesons?


Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Oldfisti on January 07, 2009, 04:01:40 PM
Quote from: JBubble on January 07, 2009, 03:59:35 PM
So.....does that make me an enabler on the alcohol thing since I can't put away the Jamesons?





Mmmmm.  Jameson.   
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: jdubbs32584 on January 07, 2009, 04:04:03 PM
Oh, and I'm really sorry babe. I'll do whatever I can to support you.  :-*
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Manny on January 07, 2009, 04:07:03 PM
Quote from: Bun-bun on January 07, 2009, 03:57:04 PM
Not to ba alarmist, but have you gone to a Dr. about this?
Sudden changes like you describe can be symptoms of a more serious problem than sobriety.

I agree with this. ETOH always used to make my head hurt (cluster headaches, AKA migraines) until some doc put me on a prophylactic BP med. Food for thought at least...


In the meantime, JBubble won't have to worry about a designated driver.  ;D
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: jdubbs32584 on January 07, 2009, 04:08:19 PM
Quote from: Manny on January 07, 2009, 04:07:03 PM
I agree with this. ETOH always used to make my head hurt (cluster headaches, AKA migraines) until some doc put me on a prophylactic BP med. Food for thought at least...


In the meantime, JBubble won't have to worry about a designated driver.  ;D

Yes!!!! *happy dance*

just think babe, you'll be able to take advantage of me all the time!  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Mother on January 07, 2009, 04:09:37 PM
Quote from: Bun-bun on January 07, 2009, 03:57:04 PM
Not to ba alarmist, but have you gone to a Dr. about this?
Sudden changes like you describe can be symptoms of a more serious problem than sobriety.

thought about that

something similar happened about 5 years ago

couldn't even choke down a beer

switched to vodka and everything was fine

after a few months I could drink beer again and no issues

but this seems to be pretty wholistic and very sudden

but there doesn't seem to be any other physiological symptoms

except I am starting to have some very intense dreams lately

don't we have any doctors in this crowd?

painters and lawyers but no Docs?
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Mother on January 07, 2009, 04:14:25 PM
Quote from: Manny on January 07, 2009, 04:07:03 PM
I agree with this. ETOH always used to make my head hurt (cluster headaches, AKA migraines) until some doc put me on a prophylactic BP med. Food for thought at least...


In the meantime, JBubble won't have to worry about a designated driver.  ;D

last night after a beer I was a mess and poked and prodded myself

BP: 130/84
HR: 95 (a little elevated for a resting rate)
RR: 16
SPo2: 95% on room air (also a little abnormal)
CBG: 119
3 lead: NSR

so in theory i am healthy besides what is probably a lack of cardiopulmonary efficiency on my part
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Mother on January 07, 2009, 04:18:26 PM
Quote from: JBubble on January 07, 2009, 04:08:19 PM
Yes!!!! *happy dance*

just think babe, you'll be able to take advantage of me all the time!  [thumbsup]


[laugh]
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Porsche Monkey on January 07, 2009, 04:19:12 PM
I kinda have the same problem. I used to be quite the drinker and have thoroughly abused my body. Now if I have more than a few beers I can get severe headaches. I can have a glass or two of tequila and don't get the headaches but the nausea follows really soon.  I was never a light weight.
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Speeddog on January 07, 2009, 04:40:17 PM
+1 on seeing a doctor, or bending one's ear.

IIRC, sqweak (member here in SoCal) has some kind of issues crop up with drink, he's on the wagon.
Can't for the life of me remember what symptoms he had.

Good luck with it.
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: ducpainter on January 07, 2009, 05:44:30 PM
You have it all wrong...

you need to drink more...

it will stop all the headache and hangover issues.

You need to be drunk at all times. ;)
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Grampa on January 07, 2009, 05:50:45 PM
what would Kirk do?
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: jdubbs32584 on January 07, 2009, 05:58:05 PM
Quote from: bobspapa on January 07, 2009, 05:50:45 PM
what would Kirk do?

[laugh]
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Porsche Monkey on January 07, 2009, 06:06:10 PM
Well mom let me know if you find anything out.  I would like to get back to my old self again. Or if I get to the doc (not likely), ill let you know bout it.
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: JohnnyDucati on January 07, 2009, 06:12:22 PM
Quote from: Mother on January 07, 2009, 04:09:37 PM

. . .

don't we have any doctors in this crowd?

painters and lawyers but no Docs?

I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV.   ;D

You know, at the risk of a lot of brick bats and derision hurled my way, I will go ahead and say it anyway.

Have you ever tried drinking wine? (ducks behind couch).

You mention beer & vodka, but PBR and potatoe rotgut and similar hard stuff wasn't ever exactly supposed to be good for you.  You never mentioned wine.

Decent wine actually has good stuff in it.  Drinking wine in moderation has been accepted as a good health habit.  Those goldang Frenchies god bless them start drinking that stuff as children (under supervision at the dinner table).  They grow up to be chain-smoking, fois-gras lard-sucking, butter-slatherin', ennui'ed sons-of-pregnant doges that live to be 97.  OK, I'm joking a little  (and no offense intended to the french or french-descended).  But there's some element of truth there.

I don't advocate wine snobbery and I don't cotton to those that adhere to wine snobbery, but it is a lot of fun to just explore that stuff through drinking at your own pace and desire.

There is a whole universe of wines out there begging to be tried.  The wine-making process is fascinating.  The untold myriads of vintages, years, tannin content, aromas, flavors, history, origin blah blah blah is actually kind of fun to learn about.

So, I'm just saying.  Try it.  You might like it.  And it might not actually make you feel bad if you drink it with your meals.  You ever have an awesome burgundy with your bacon-wrapped grilled sirloin?  It'll knock yer socks off.

That's all I got.  Good luck, Mother.

Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: ducpainter on January 07, 2009, 06:19:09 PM
...or

you could go to the doctor and make sure you don't have diabetes.

either way.
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: swampduc on January 07, 2009, 06:50:16 PM
Quote from: Mother on January 07, 2009, 04:14:25 PM
last night after a beer I was a mess and poked and prodded myself

BP: 130/84
HR: 95 (a little elevated for a resting rate)
RR: 16
SPo2: 95% on room air (also a little abnormal)
CBG: 119
3 lead: NSR

so in theory i am healthy besides what is probably a lack of cardiopulmonary efficiency on my part
I'm a doc, Mom, but I've been doing retina surg for a while so I'm almost useless for anything else. [laugh] Sounds to me like maybe blood chemistries are in order (BMP, LFT's). If that's all nl, maybe see an allergist?
Coincidentally, I've got a friend who's an allergist and has had to essentially stop the drink due to getting eczema every time he does  [bang]. If anything comes of his workup, I'll let you know.
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Johnny OrganDonor on January 07, 2009, 06:59:06 PM
You need to eat something light while you drink.  I worked in Russia a few years back and there'd always be a plate of sliced cucumbers and tomatoes to eat along the vodka (downed in huge shots.)  I was able to drink way more their way than I ever thought I could and no bad hangovers.  Stay away from bread and cheese.  You could include some raw pork fat but that's advanced stuff.  Russians know a thing or two about drinking.
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Randimus Maximus on January 07, 2009, 07:00:39 PM
mom,

good luck with whatever you decide to do
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: somegirl on January 07, 2009, 07:09:45 PM
Hope you work things out Mother.

I don't drink much either, I'm a lightweight now and get drunk on half a bottle of beer.  I'm usually the designated driver.

Quote from: JohnnyDucati on January 07, 2009, 06:12:22 PMHave you ever tried drinking wine? (ducks behind couch).

Wine is generally more associated with headaches and other side effects than other forms of alcohol - it's all the sulfites.
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Randimus Maximus on January 07, 2009, 07:43:27 PM
Quote from: somegirl on January 07, 2009, 07:09:45 PM

Wine is generally more associated with headaches and other side effects than other forms of alcohol - it's all the sulfites.

do box wines have the sulfites?
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: krolik on January 07, 2009, 07:51:22 PM
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on January 07, 2009, 07:43:27 PM
do box wines have the sulfites?

No, they have termites.
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Triple J on January 07, 2009, 09:25:27 PM
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on January 07, 2009, 07:43:27 PM
do box wines have the sulfites?

Neglecting the fact that box wines are  [puke]

Sulfites are added to wine (and other foods) as a preservative, so yes they are in box wines. Certified Organic wines don't have sulfites as far as I know...but most others do.
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: tcspeedfreak on January 07, 2009, 09:28:02 PM
i ain't no doctor but id lean towards thinking of some sort of allergy potatoes, barley and hops aren't really all that far apart could be a coincidence maybe not try the corn liquor
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Big Troubled Bear on January 07, 2009, 09:48:21 PM
I am with the painter on this one, try to stay drunk or have some other form of brain damaging substance keep you in a trance, like paint solvents. :o
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: il d00d on January 07, 2009, 10:15:32 PM
First, condolences.   It is tough when something you love turns on you  :(



Second, a home experiment.  Someone mentioned diabetes - if this is a blood-sugar related thing, try drinking some rum.  As you may know, pretty much all booze has unfermented sugars, except for rum - it is distilled into pure alcohol that they add water to make it drinkable.  At that, it is still arguable.  Blech.
Dunno your eating habits, but if you usually avoid them, try eating a bunch of sweets to see if you start feeling the same way.  I mention this because you said regular soda makes you feel crappy.  May be something to the insulin thing...
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Mother on January 07, 2009, 10:36:43 PM
the diabetes thing is always a concern, but the only CBG abnormalities I have seen is hypoglycemia and it is always after being awake for extremely extended periods time (24+) and not eating and only when pop was part of the diet, I cut pop out for 18 months and never had an issue. oh and johnny, wine always gives me headaches, tanins or some such thing...sulfides?
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: krolik on January 07, 2009, 11:01:11 PM
Sux to be you. :'(


More beer for me then. [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Mother on January 07, 2009, 11:09:17 PM
I hope you stub your little toe
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Big Troubled Bear on January 07, 2009, 11:15:06 PM
Ever tried brandy?
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Capo on January 08, 2009, 02:27:00 AM
Quote from: alfisti on January 07, 2009, 03:51:54 PM
Smoke weed instead.               ;)

You need a new avatar  ;D

(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm143/Tarugo996/Charity-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Sinister on January 08, 2009, 08:24:22 AM
Quote from: Mother on January 07, 2009, 10:36:43 PM
the diabetes thing is always a concern, but the only CBG abnormalities I have seen is hypoglycemia and it is always after being awake for extremely extended periods time (24+) and not eating and only when pop was part of the diet, I cut pop out for 18 months and never had an issue. oh and johnny, wine always gives me headaches, tanins or some such thing...sulfides?

Isn't 130 (BP 130/82) a little high, for someone your age?
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: cyrus buelton on January 08, 2009, 08:48:12 AM
Quote from: somegirl on January 07, 2009, 07:09:45 PM
Wine is generally more associated with headaches and other side effects than other forms of alcohol - it's all the sulfites.

Take some sort of ant-acid prior to wine drinking.

It will cure the headache from the sulfites  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: swampduc on January 08, 2009, 09:02:43 AM
Quote from: Sinister on January 08, 2009, 08:24:22 AM
Isn't 130 (BP 130/82) a little high, for someone your age?
Borderline, not hypertensive, and only if it's a consistent reading.
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: the_Journeyman on January 08, 2009, 09:18:28 AM
Quote from: cyrus buelton on January 08, 2009, 08:48:12 AM
Take some sort of ant-acid prior to wine drinking.

It will cure the headache from the sulfites  [thumbsup]

You mean eat some Tums or Rolaids or something?  I've gotta try that, I like me some vino ~

JM
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: MendoDave on January 08, 2009, 09:30:10 AM
First off. Welcome to gettin old. It kind of sucks but there it is. Next let me introduce you to 2 buck chuck (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Shaw_wine)
Forget all that hoidy toidy wine bufoonery.

Think of wine as something you have around here & there. A table wine. a coffee table wine. A nightstand wine etc. Open a few bottles of red & let it breathe. Find what you like. It may be a french thing but its also an Itallian household thing, and a west coast thing.

A little wine is good for your stomach. 
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: TiNi on January 08, 2009, 12:08:00 PM
sorry to hear of your woes mother  :-\

you'll figure it out one way or another...

i agree with nate... go make sure you're not diabetic.

<hug>
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: desmopr on January 08, 2009, 12:11:50 PM
Quote from: MendoDave on January 08, 2009, 09:30:10 AM
First off. Welcome to gettin old. It kind of sucks but there it is. Next let me introduce you to 2 buck chuck (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Shaw_wine)
Forget all that hoidy toidy wine bufoonery.

Think of wine as something you have around here & there. A table wine. a coffee table wine. A nightstand wine etc. Open a few bottles of red & let it breathe. Find what you like. It may be a french thing but its also an Itallian household thing, and a west coast thing.

A little wine is good for your stomach. 

Gotta' love Trader Joe's!!
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Rideon on January 08, 2009, 12:28:38 PM
Sorry to hear about a major recreational channel going south. That always sucks.

Anything that you consume regularly has the danger of becoming an allergy. The body reacts to the allergen, booze, and you feel like crap. You have two choices with a food allergy:

Stop consuming the allergen  or
Stop consuming the allergen until the body calms down, then go for it again, and hope that the sensitivity is gone. [roll]

The blood sugar thing should be checked out, I like the home kits myself. I would do a home glucose tolerance test and check yourself hourly for 6 hours. It may take that long for the pancreas to go ka-blooey! (BS spike)

Not doing booze has some benefits, such as never having to worry about DUI's, [moto] blackouts,          blurtouts,  :-\  and reduced bellyfat. Clearly, you already know that.

Mother doesn't need booze to be Mother, either. You are doing great judging by your recent posts.  [coffee]



Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: jdubbs32584 on January 08, 2009, 12:30:07 PM
Quote from: DuCaTiNi on January 08, 2009, 12:08:00 PM
sorry to hear of your woes mother  :-\

you'll figure it out one way or another...

i agree with nate... go make sure you're not diabetic.

<hug>

I'm gonna make sure he goes and talks to a doc. He's got me worried.  :-\
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: TiNi on January 08, 2009, 01:15:55 PM
Quote from: JBubble on January 08, 2009, 12:30:07 PM
I'm gonna make sure he goes and talks to a doc. He's got me worried.  :-\

i'm worried too and i'm not his GF :) hopefully it's nothing :)

it's important to take care of ourselves... we have only one body to live in...

i shouldn't talk though... i think i need glasses, but am avoiding going to the eye dr.  :-\
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Howie on January 08, 2009, 01:44:56 PM
I was going to mention diabetes, but assuming Mother knows a lot more about people mechanics than I do I decided not to.  But hey, the test is no big deal.  And, yeah, go see the doctor!
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Oldfisti on January 08, 2009, 03:14:34 PM
Quote from: Capo on January 08, 2009, 02:27:00 AM
You need a new avatar  ;D

(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm143/Tarugo996/Charity-1.jpg)


Done.                                 ;D

Tough to see so I'll prolly have to change it soon.   Me likey though.  ;)
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Capo on January 08, 2009, 05:26:50 PM
 [thumbsup] Your an allright guy  [clap]
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: herm on January 08, 2009, 07:02:49 PM
mother, you need to move to the city. all that clean air is making you sick.
i recommend LA...
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: swampduc on January 08, 2009, 07:30:44 PM
Quote from: Rideon on January 08, 2009, 12:28:38 PM
Sorry to hear about a major recreational channel going south. That always sucks.

Anything that you consume regularly has the danger of becoming an allergy. The body reacts to the allergen, booze, and you feel like crap. You have two choices with a food allergy:

Stop consuming the allergen  or
Stop consuming the allergen until the body calms down, then go for it again, and hope that the sensitivity is gone. [roll]

The blood sugar thing should be checked out, I like the home kits myself. I would do a home glucose tolerance test and check yourself hourly for 6 hours. It may take that long for the pancreas to go ka-blooey! (BS spike)

Not doing booze has some benefits, such as never having to worry about DUI's, [moto] blackouts,          blurtouts,  :-\  and reduced bellyfat. Clearly, you already know that.

Mother doesn't need booze to be Mother, either. You are doing great judging by your recent posts.  [coffee]


If you're going to do a glucose tolerance test, you'll need a sugar challenge, like about 100g of glucose.  [puke]


Quote from: JBubble on January 08, 2009, 12:30:07 PM
I'm gonna make sure he goes and talks to a doc. He's got me worried.  :-\

Good on you, JBub  [thumbsup]

Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: somegirl on January 08, 2009, 07:38:34 PM
Quote from: alfisti on January 08, 2009, 03:14:34 PM

Done.                                 ;D

Tough to see so I'll prolly have to change it soon.   Me likey though.  ;)

Here's a version for you that's a little easier to read. 8)

(http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll291/msincredible99/Charity-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: cyrus buelton on January 08, 2009, 07:56:54 PM
Quote from: Sinister on January 08, 2009, 08:24:22 AM
Isn't 130 (BP 130/82) a little high, for someone your age?

Not really.

It really could depend on what he ate prior to taking the reading, etc.

Consistent reading of the Systolic of 130 is high normal, but not too alarming.

When you reach 140, you are considered to have high blood pressure and should probably see a Cardiologist and work on your diet along with some medication.

His Diastolic is only two clicks above high normal, so not alarming at all.


But even a bigger factor of blood pressure, regardless of age........


genetics. Huge factor.

Quote from: the_Journeyman on January 08, 2009, 09:18:28 AM
You mean eat some Tums or Rolaids or something?  I've gotta try that, I like me some vino ~

JM

Zantac 75 is a good choice
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Oldfisti on January 09, 2009, 07:39:45 AM
Quote from: somegirl on January 08, 2009, 07:38:34 PM
Here's a version for you that's a little easier to read. 8)

(http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll291/msincredible99/Charity-2.jpg)


Done.    Thank you!    [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Mother on January 09, 2009, 01:09:28 PM
Doc I talked to says I have risk factors for diabetes but don't have symptoms to warrant an A1C unless I want to simply for peace of mind

He did mention getting tested to rule out an alcohol allergy


<deep sigh>


Oh well, it was a good run

I guess I have to embrace the dark side and become one of those health freaks

[bang]



Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on January 09, 2009, 01:11:30 PM
Hrm. Lake Ontario is boiling.
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Mother on January 09, 2009, 01:20:45 PM
Quote from: MrIncredible on January 09, 2009, 01:11:30 PM
Hrm. Lake Ontario is boiling.


Huh?

<shakes head>

Rocket scientists... [roll]

Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: jdubbs32584 on January 09, 2009, 01:23:30 PM
Quote from: Mother on January 09, 2009, 01:09:28 PM
Doc I talked to says I have risk factors for diabetes but don't have symptoms to warrant an A1C unless I want to simply for peace of mind

He did mention getting tested to rule out an alcohol allergy


<deep sigh>


Oh well, it was a good run

I guess I have to embrace the dark side and become one of those health freaks

[bang]





So are you gonna get tested hon for the allergy and the diabetes?


And yes, you're going to become a health freak. I need to keep you around to amuse me for a good long time.  :-*
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Mother on January 09, 2009, 01:23:58 PM
Some people are more sensitive to the effects of alcohol than are others. However, this doesn't mean you have an alcohol allergy.

A true food allergy involves your immune system. In such cases, your immune system mistakenly identifies a specific food or a component of that food as a harmful substance. Your immune system triggers certain cells to produce immunoglobulin E (IgE) antibodies to fight the "enemy" food or food component. Signs and symptoms of food allergy include tingling in the mouth, hives, breathing difficulties, and swelling of your lips, tongue or throat.

An alcohol allergy would be very uncommon. However, you could be allergic to other ingredients in an alcoholic beverage, such as wheat or sulfur dioxide, a preservative. There are also substances in some alcohol beverages such as wine that can cause flushing or even rashes.

Still, it's more likely that you have an alcohol intolerance â€" which means you are more sensitive to the normal effects of alcohol. Alcohol can cause a variety of immediate adverse effects on the body, including headache, rapid heartbeat, nausea or vomiting, heartburn, abdominal pain, nasal congestion, or warm, red, itchy skin.

Many people of Asian descent  experience an unusual flushing reaction after drinking alcohol â€" even in very small amounts. This is caused by a genetic disorder in which the body is unable to break down alcohol completely. Some research suggests that people who experience alcohol flush reaction may be at increased risk of alcohol-related conditions, such as cancer of the esophagus and liver disease.

The only solution to all of these problems is to avoid alcohol.



-from the mayo clinic

well shit, i do all that

Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: herm on January 09, 2009, 01:25:12 PM
Quote from: Mother on January 09, 2009, 01:09:28 PM
Doc I talked to says I have risk factors for diabetes but don't have symptoms to warrant an A1C unless I want to simply for peace of mind

He did mention getting tested to rule out an alcohol allergy


<deep sigh>


Oh well, it was a good run

I guess I have to embrace the dark side and become one of those health freaks

[bang]





you can stay in (very good) shape and continue to debauch yourself ya know... [drink]
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: jdubbs32584 on January 09, 2009, 01:42:17 PM
Quote from: Mother on January 09, 2009, 01:23:58 PM
Some people are more sensitive to the effects of alcohol than are others. However, this doesn't mean you have an alcohol allergy.

A true food allergy involves your immune system. In such cases, your immune system mistakenly identifies a specific food or a component of that food as a harmful substance. Your immune system triggers certain cells to produce immunoglobulin E (IgE) antibodies to fight the "enemy" food or food component. Signs and symptoms of food allergy include tingling in the mouth, hives, breathing difficulties, and swelling of your lips, tongue or throat.

An alcohol allergy would be very uncommon. However, you could be allergic to other ingredients in an alcoholic beverage, such as wheat or sulfur dioxide, a preservative. There are also substances in some alcohol beverages such as wine that can cause flushing or even rashes.

Still, it's more likely that you have an alcohol intolerance â€" which means you are more sensitive to the normal effects of alcohol. Alcohol can cause a variety of immediate adverse effects on the body, including headache, rapid heartbeat, nausea or vomiting, heartburn, abdominal pain, nasal congestion, or warm, red, itchy skin.

Many people of Asian descent  experience an unusual flushing reaction after drinking alcohol â€" even in very small amounts. This is caused by a genetic disorder in which the body is unable to break down alcohol completely. Some research suggests that people who experience alcohol flush reaction may be at increased risk of alcohol-related conditions, such as cancer of the esophagus and liver disease.

The only solution to all of these problems is to avoid alcohol.



-from the mayo clinic

well shit, i do all that



For those that don't understand, Mother is part slanty eyed.
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on January 09, 2009, 01:45:32 PM
Quote from: Mother on January 09, 2009, 01:09:28 PM

I guess I have to embrace the dark side and become one of those health freaks

[bang]



Quote from: MrIncredible on January 09, 2009, 01:11:30 PM
Hrm. Lake Ontario is boiling.

Quote from: Mother on January 09, 2009, 01:20:45 PM

Huh?

Make sense now? You being a health freak=sign of end of world.
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Mother on January 09, 2009, 01:49:08 PM
but lake Ontario actually boils...
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: herm on January 09, 2009, 03:02:13 PM
Quote from: JBubble on January 09, 2009, 01:42:17 PM
For those that don't understand, Mother is part slanty eyed.

why yah gotta make this a race thing?????



























;D
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: jdubbs32584 on January 09, 2009, 07:27:09 PM
Quote from: herm on January 09, 2009, 03:02:13 PM
why yah gotta make this a race thing?????



























;D

I am a backwoods redneck from the South you know  ;)
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: somegirl on January 09, 2009, 08:22:49 PM
Quote from: JBubble on January 09, 2009, 01:23:30 PM
So are you gonna get tested hon for the allergy and the diabetes?

+1, many doctors seem to downplay diabetes.   If you are at risk it may be worth it to get a referral to an endocrinologist.
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: ducatiz on January 11, 2009, 08:16:37 PM
I had the same thing happen to me a while back (oh, 5 years?) after a night of binge drinking soju and nigiri sake (i.e. Shiboritate)..

... the next morning, i felt a jillion tiny nipponese pounding on my brain stem and whacking me in the eyes with golf balls.  i thought it was just a hangover from hell until a few weeks later, i had a business meeting (err ahem) with one of our european pals who liked to drink (oh, the Finns) anyhow, i got home stinking drunk and around 2 am i awoke with the worst headache of the 21st century -- went to the bathroom to self-decapitate and when i switched on teh lights, it was as if someone punched me in the face.

--migraine!!--

after a few rounds of MRIs and stuff, i was given a few drugs and sent home -- those drugs have kept me alive. 

i still drink, if i didn't, i'd be on one of those COPS shows being arrested after something "horrible"...  drinking keeps me sane, God help the world if alcohol is banned.

Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: cyrus buelton on January 12, 2009, 07:17:59 AM
Do you use Immatrax of Maxalt?
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Sinister on January 12, 2009, 10:04:26 AM
Quote from: cyrus buelton on January 12, 2009, 07:17:59 AM
Do you use Immatrax of Maxalt?

He uses Midol.
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Oldfisti on January 12, 2009, 10:16:14 AM
Quote from: Sinister on January 12, 2009, 10:04:26 AM
He uses Midol.


ZING!
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Mother on January 12, 2009, 02:29:38 PM
I experimented

Purely organic beer has zero negative effect

I am going to explore the possibility that this is some kind of reaction to a preservative
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Oldfisti on January 12, 2009, 02:36:31 PM
Quote from: Mother on January 12, 2009, 02:29:38 PM
I experimented

Purely organic beer has zero negative effect

I am going to explore the possibility that this is some kind of reaction to a preservative


[clap] [clap] [clap] [clap] [clap]            Glad to hear the good news!             [drink]
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: jdubbs32584 on January 12, 2009, 02:39:50 PM
Thank god. Hopefully I won't lose my drinking buddy!  [beer]
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Oldfisti on January 12, 2009, 02:44:45 PM
It's good and bad. You may have lost a DD.  However IMO it's more fun when both SO's get tipsy.   ;D
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: jdubbs32584 on January 12, 2009, 02:48:54 PM
Quote from: alfisti on January 12, 2009, 02:44:45 PM
It's good and bad. You may have lost a DD.  However IMO it's more fun when both SO's get tipsy.   ;D

[laugh]
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: ducatiz on January 12, 2009, 06:32:40 PM
Quote from: Sinister on January 12, 2009, 10:04:26 AM
He uses Midol.

Of course I do -- I funnel it into your throat when you start pregnant dogin' about being oppressed by the MODS!

Quote from: Mother on January 12, 2009, 02:29:38 PM
I experimented

Purely organic beer has zero negative effect

I am going to explore the possibility that this is some kind of reaction to a preservative

That's interesting, I had a similar realization.  I drink a lot of wine, and I like reds only -- the kind that cause migraines. 

I found a moltepulciano called Tommolo which is organic BUT the label says it has sulfites.  Some people say there is a link between sulfites and migraines, but I have found otherwise -- some sulfited wines give me a headache and others nada.

Whisky on the other hand just gives me artistic license.

Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: jdubbs32584 on January 12, 2009, 06:33:59 PM
Quote from: ducatizzzz on January 12, 2009, 06:32:40 PM

Whisky on the other hand just gives me artistic license.



I wish he'd join me on the whisky thing.

Mmmmmm whisky.
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: ducatiz on January 12, 2009, 06:34:46 PM
Quote from: Mother on January 12, 2009, 02:29:38 PM
I experimented

Purely organic beer has zero negative effect

I am going to explore the possibility that this is some kind of reaction to a preservative

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i5k4I1AOEI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i5k4I1AOEI)
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: ducatiz on January 12, 2009, 06:36:47 PM
Quote from: JBubble on January 12, 2009, 06:33:59 PM
I wish he'd join me on the whisky thing.

Mmmmmm whisky.

Yeah, well, buggerers can't be hoosiers...
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: ducpainter on January 12, 2009, 06:41:04 PM
I have found that every day of living...

brings one a day closer to death...

and in typical Alfred E. Neuman fashion...

or Mr. Natural style...

I'm gonna try and do it again tomorrow.

Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: pndwind on January 12, 2009, 08:23:38 PM

HeHe  I  like drinkin
[evil]
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Howie on January 12, 2009, 09:44:23 PM
Quote from: ducatizzzz on January 12, 2009, 06:32:40 PM
Of course I do -- I funnel it into your throat when you start pregnant dogin' about being oppressed by the MODS!

That's interesting, I had a similar realization.  I drink a lot of wine, and I like reds only -- the kind that cause migraines. 

I found a moltepulciano called Tommolo which is organic BUT the label says it has sulfites.  Some people say there is a link between sulfites and migraines, but I have found otherwise -- some sulfited wines give me a headache and others nada.

Whisky on the other hand just gives me artistic license.



Some red wines are loaded with sulfiites, like that gallon jug of red that you drink all week after opening, some are just in a bottle that was rinsed in a mild sulphite solution, then there are all levels between.  You may also be reacting to tannic acid.  If you react to an expensive Bordeau aged in oak, but not an inexpensive light red it is probably the tannins.
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Mother on January 12, 2009, 09:48:51 PM
whiskey makes me think I am better than reality has defined
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Speeddog on January 12, 2009, 10:23:20 PM
Quote from: Mother on January 12, 2009, 09:48:51 PM
whiskey makes me think I am better than reality has defined

Well, in moderation it's fine to think that way.  [beer]
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: Sinister on January 13, 2009, 09:54:51 PM
Quote from: ducatizzzz on January 12, 2009, 06:32:40 PM
Of course I do -- I funnel it into your throat when you start pregnant dogin' about being oppressed by the MODS!



Bwahahahaa!!!  That's why I'm constantly floating on a cloud.
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: herm on January 14, 2009, 06:22:34 AM
Quote from: Mother on January 12, 2009, 09:48:51 PM
whiskey makes me think I am better than reality has defined

whiskey makes......me

yeh...
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: desmopr on January 17, 2009, 08:10:26 AM
Quote from: Mother on January 12, 2009, 02:29:38 PM
I experimented

Purely organic beer has zero negative effect

I am going to explore the possibility that this is some kind of reaction to a preservative

Most microbreweries use premium ingredients and little to no preservatives so I would try that route.   
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: TiNi on January 17, 2009, 08:12:03 AM
Quote from: herm on January 14, 2009, 06:22:34 AM
whiskey makes......me

yeh...

...sleep with care bears?  ;D
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: DesmoDiva on January 17, 2009, 11:22:36 AM
Quote from: DuCaTiNi on January 17, 2009, 08:12:03 AM
...sleep with care bears?  ;D

[laugh] [laugh]
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: ducatiz on January 17, 2009, 02:42:23 PM
Quote from: DuCaTiNi on January 17, 2009, 08:12:03 AM
...sleep with care bears?  ;D

herm is a furvert?   [laugh]
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: ducpainter on January 17, 2009, 03:29:50 PM
Quote from: ducatizzzz on January 17, 2009, 02:42:23 PM
herm is a furvert?   [laugh]
It was hysterical.
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: DesmoDiva on January 17, 2009, 03:31:47 PM
Yes, it was.

There is photo proof floating around here somewhere, too.   [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: TiNi on January 17, 2009, 03:32:16 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on January 17, 2009, 03:29:50 PM
It was hysterical.

it was baby blue  :)
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: ducpainter on January 17, 2009, 03:38:52 PM
Quote from: DuCaTiNi on January 17, 2009, 03:32:16 PM
it was baby blue  :)
Where's the pic?
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: jdubbs32584 on January 17, 2009, 03:49:01 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on January 17, 2009, 03:38:52 PM
Where's the pic?

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff194/hires_melissa_photos/dimby/DSCN0062.jpg)
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: ducpainter on January 17, 2009, 03:51:58 PM
Quote from: JBubble on January 17, 2009, 03:49:01 PM
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff194/hires_melissa_photos/dimby/DSCN0062.jpg)
Thank you...where'd you find the link?

It was hysterical.   ;D
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: jdubbs32584 on January 17, 2009, 03:54:04 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on January 17, 2009, 03:51:58 PM
Thank you...where'd you find the link?

It was hysterical.   ;D

http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=328.msg87008#msg87008 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=328.msg87008#msg87008)
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: herm on January 17, 2009, 05:40:02 PM
damn you all!

i will be the last one up this year... even if i have to stay sober and drink red bull to do it.

and revenge is always sweet [evil]
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: jdubbs32584 on January 17, 2009, 05:42:37 PM
Quote from: herm on January 17, 2009, 05:40:02 PM
damn you all!

i will be the last one up this year... even if i have to stay sober and drink red bull to do it.

and revenge is always sweet [evil]

Want me to bring a care bear for you? i've got a bunch
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: herm on January 17, 2009, 06:36:48 PM
Quote from: JBubble on January 17, 2009, 05:42:37 PM
Want me to bring a care bear for you? i've got a bunch

got anything worse than that?
a bunch of them?
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: jdubbs32584 on January 17, 2009, 06:49:47 PM
Quote from: herm on January 17, 2009, 06:36:48 PM
got anything worse than that?
a bunch of them?

(http://www.anarchs.com/lumi/carebears.jpg)


*not mine by the way. mine are safely put away so as not to be stolen by herm.
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: herm on January 17, 2009, 07:05:11 PM
Quote from: JBubble on January 17, 2009, 06:49:47 PM
(http://www.anarchs.com/lumi/carebears.jpg)


*not mine by the way. mine are safely put away so as not to be stolen by herm.

oh,..moms then?
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: jdubbs32584 on January 17, 2009, 07:08:29 PM
Quote from: herm on January 17, 2009, 07:05:11 PM
oh,..moms then?

nah, this ones his:

(http://www.napavalleywww.com/43638piglet.jpg)

[thumbsup]
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: ducpainter on January 17, 2009, 07:12:53 PM
Does mom know the pigs name?
Title: Re: Look out world, here comes sobriety...
Post by: TiNi on January 18, 2009, 08:10:37 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on January 17, 2009, 03:51:58 PM
It was hysterical.   ;D

it would have been better if i could have gotten the shot where they were hugging  ;D