So she said her "friend" came over a couple days ago. A guy who she's screwed and says she loves, and will always be in her life one way or another, who gets pissed about other guys, and always wants to have sex with her. But I "shouldn't worry about him" because she doesn't mess around when she's seeing someone. Anyone else have to deal with this stuff? Every time I see a chick there's ALWAYS a dude like this in the wings. I'm so tired of it.
hell no! fac man, love yourself first. that chick sounds like a nutjob.
Walk away...
Quote from: ducpainter on February 20, 2009, 05:47:08 AM
I'd bump it up to a full run.
You should probably mix in some evasive maneuvers too, she does have a gun.
Definitely walk/run/fly your helicopter way from her. This guy will follow you for the entire relationship until one day you find out your following him so to speak.
Piller's back!!!
Get the make the beast with two backs away as quick as possible and keep the [leo] on speed dial
She's probably banging him.
Run away.
You're probably right Cyrus, I mean, if he wasn't getting some(thing) he probably wouldn't keep hanging around ~
JM
Quote from: Big Troubled Bear on February 20, 2009, 06:15:38 AM
Get the make the beast with two backs away as quick as possible and keep the [leo] on speed dial
She IS the [leo]. I dunno man. The next thing you know you're gonna be sleeping with one eye open, a-la WWII snipers. When's she gonna show up? When's she gonna show up? I say keep the lawyer on speed dial.
Quote from: Dan on February 20, 2009, 06:02:41 AM
You should probably mix in some evasive maneuvers too, she does have a gun.
The Radar Reilly Sniper scurry comes to mind if you are old enough to remember.
If the "Other Party" is a [leo], could make matters challenging if he decides to get jealous and unscrupulous...
Dont ask me how I know...
Not to be harsh dude but if she cared about your feelings then she wouldn't be putting you in a situation that makes you uncomfortable in this way. If you haven't told her that your uncomfortable with it she may not have a clue. If you do tell her then she may say what's the big deal. Do y'all live together? If so, I wouldn't put up with an ex that she still has feelings for being in my house. Mention it to her and if it goes bad then end it before she does. It sucks big time.
Quote from: ducpainter on February 20, 2009, 05:47:08 AM
I'd bump it up to a full run.
heed the old mans wisdom [thumbsup]
Run, Piller, RUN!!!
Quote from: the_Journeyman on February 20, 2009, 06:33:19 AM
You're probably right Cyrus, I mean, if he wasn't getting some(thing) he probably wouldn't keep hanging around ~
JM
Exactly.
Pillar stated the dude is a horndog that always wants it from her, so why would he keep coming around if he wasn't getting what he wants?
Quote from: herm on February 20, 2009, 07:16:38 AM
heed the old mans wisdom [thumbsup]
Wouldn't he have to be careful not to break his hip?
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
You got enough other stuff on your plate, man. This kind of drama you don't need. Get out of there!
I don't trust those types. It never ends well (for you).
The girl has a weakness for the guy, if she isn't "with" him yet, she will be the moment you upset her at all.
Quote from: cyrus buelton on February 20, 2009, 07:20:15 AM
Pillar stated the dude is a horndog that always wants it from her, so why would he keep coming around if he wasn't getting what he wants?
Because he's an opportunist who believes that if he DOES hand around long enough, she will relent. This woman is a whore...run.
Quote from: optiato on February 20, 2009, 08:14:54 AM
I don't trust those types. It never ends well (for you).
The girl has a weakness for the guy, if she isn't "with" him yet, she will be the moment you upset her at all.
+11,000....that is totally true. It sounds like she may have some self-esteem issues...it's the only reason any girl keeps guys like that around, they are easy pick-me-ups on days when you don't feel pretty or wanted...
Quote from: DaniD on February 20, 2009, 09:01:48 AM
It sounds like she may have some self-esteem issues...
That's the understatement of the week. It's like you're reading my mind, Dani. [thumbsup]
Let's go easy on the guy though, I'm sure most of us would hate to be in his (Pillar's) shoes.
I've just been there and done that... :(
I'd have the "this dude makes me uncomfortable" talk and see where it goes first.
But yes, odds are you should run away fast.
Sorry. :-\
While I agree with everyone that she is definitely keeping this guy around to boost her self-esteem you need to find out what you want. How serious are you with this chic? If your not that serious and like being around her and I'm guessing hooking up just go for it and enjoy it. If you think you want a real relationship with her run, run, run, run. I've been in this situation a couple of times and it never ends well and I promise you she WILL NOT be the one to get hurt. Just my two cents.
Regardless of if he is serious about her or not, that guy sticking around just throws up red flags. Say Piller's just out to have a good time but the other guy is psycho serious and catches them together, that could get very dangerous...
Quote from: Ducaholic on February 20, 2009, 09:10:29 AM
I'm sure most of us would hate to be in his (Pillar's) shoes.
THe key is not to get yourself in that position, to begin with. Establish some boundaries in your relationships. Rule #1: No guy friends. Sorry, don't like it...buh bye. Think about it: if you've been the 'guy friend', you know why you're there; your girlfriend's 'guy friend' is there for the same reason.
what?
are you saying that guys have ulterior for hanging out with "girls who are friends"
no way.......
i can see it now.
this thread will be renamed.
"sleeping with the enemy"
To this day my wife does not believe me when I tell her guys are after one thing only. I told her a hundred times that if a guy says something as simple as "hi" to her what he is really saying is "you look good and do you put out". She is slowly starting to come around now that I have been able to proove my point a few times.
Then there is the other thing. She was talkin about this Dr. where she works and said he is always trying to have a conversation with her and I told her that he was probably hitting on her. Then she comes home one day and says he complimented her on her new hairstyle. I tell her that he is either trying to hook up with her or he is gay one or the other. Straight guys dont just notice hair usually unless they are trying to impress a woman. Well she denied both options until a couple weeks later when the Dr. introduced her to his life partner.
Quote from: herm on February 20, 2009, 10:24:54 AM
what?
are you saying that guys have ulterior for hanging out with "girls who are friends"
no way.......
And, thus, the point is proven...
(http://ejectionseat.com.ne.kr/eject.jpg)
bail out dude.
Quote from: optiato on February 20, 2009, 09:22:24 AM
I've just been there and done that... :(
I think most of us have probably been in this situation at one point or another. This happened to me at the end of a five year relationship. The best thing I could have/should have done was listen to my friends when they told me to leave.
Quote from: needtorque on February 20, 2009, 10:43:02 AM
To this day my wife does not believe me when I tell her guys are after one thing only. I told her a hundred times that if a guy says something as simple as "hi" to her what he is really saying is "you look good and do you put out". She is slowly starting to come around now that I have been able to proove my point a few times.
Then there is the other thing. She was talkin about this Dr. where she works and said he is always trying to have a conversation with her and I told her that he was probably hitting on her. Then she comes home one day and says he complimented her on her new hairstyle. I tell her that he is either trying to hook up with her or he is gay one or the other. Straight guys dont just notice hair usually unless they are trying to impress a woman. Well she denied both options until a couple weeks later when the Dr. introduced her to his life partner.
My wife took golf lessons and exclaimed proudly that her instructer said she has "A Natural" swing......
For several weeks, I watched my wife at the driving range. Im here to tell you that baby seal hunters have a smoother, nicer swing than my wife as she hacks at that poor golf ball.
I told her he is either trying to close her on a years worth of lessons or trying to get in her pants. Next lesson she got the hard sell, "What do I have to do to get you to buy a block of lessons today?"
Piller.
Run!
geez, better be scared that my wife is friends with guys........
[roll]
I have nothing...oh wait, yes I do!
WWSDD?
;D
lol
i cut it off with her today. Too bad because I liked her son more than her, and he always asked when I was coming over next. But there were other red flags as you can imagine... the loose condoms in her bedside drawer, the vaseline container on her dresser drawer, the half used bottle of personal lube in the medicine cabinet.
She was a good looking girl, but I knew I'd be drawing the line at some point. Yeah, she could say what she wanted, but there was a reason she called him over to hang out. She said he was there to comfort her because she was having a bad day... yeah, right. And why the need to do it in person instead of on the phone?
She left me a long message saying how much she cares about me, and how much her son loves me, etc.
It just sucks because I haven't been in a relationship in 5 years. Not counting the african refugee. Counting my dope habit, getting clean, and then taking care of my father - it all added up. so now I'm desperate. You can't pick up normal chicks when you have the stink of desperation on you.
too bad - I liked going there and just chilling with her and her son. This is the second time I've hooked up with a chick with a kid, and I always get attached to the kid. I guess at 33, I'm thinking more about settling down or something. This chick is 36, you'd think she would want the same - she did talk about getting married, and she asked me if I would want kids with her and stuff. She definitely had me going.
So back to [coffee] for me I guess. Someone's bound to come along though.
J. Geils Band
Musta Got Lost, With Intro lyrics
(Spoken)
Hold on this song has a little introduction to it
It's ain't supposed to be sad though you might feel it that way
It's a song about desperation,
Every now and then we do get desperate
This is a song about L-O-V-E,
and if you abuse it you're gonn' lose it
and if you lose it you're gonn' 'buse and
if you 'buse it you aint gonn' be able to choose it
cuz you aint gonn' have it further on down the line
things aint gonn' be so fine
you're gonn' to be sitting there on your little.. machine
tryin to look and keep it clean and
You're going to be home playing bingo all night all alone
and that's why your sittin there by the telephone
and you know that she aint goin to call you!
So you put on the TV and you're watchin Johnny Carson
segwayin right into the Tomorrow show
but that don't got the go so you turn it off ya turn on the radio,
the radio don't' seem to get the click so you say
"Hey Man, I can't lickety split"
You start to open up a little book
and there's somethin there you got to overlook
and you say "BABY, you know there's somethin on my mind!
"You say "Baby there's somethin on my mind -
I know that you're home and I know you aint all alone! "
So you start walking over to her house
and you get over to her house
and you walk over to her door and
you start poundin on her door and you say
"Open up the door pregnant dog!â€
This is wooba gooba with the green teeth, let me in!!"
Well, she opens up the door
and then you just kinda walk up to her and say
"Baby", (say Baby!) you look up way up at her green mascara
and you say "Oh my darling,
you know her and me was at the party as friends -
do not believe what they say
that's only gossip that they tellin ya -
a wise crack of lies!"
You say Darling!!!
Take your big curls and squeeze them down Ratumba -
What's the name of the chick with the long hair?
(Rapunzel!) Hey Rapunzel!
Heh heh... Hey Reputa the beautah! Reputa the Beautah!
Hey Reputa the Beautah flip me down your hair
and let me climb up to the ladder of your love!!
Because this is the wooba gooba sayin to ya
"Love comes once and when it comes
you better grab it fast cuz sometimes the love
you grab aint gonn' last and
I believe I musta,
You know I think I musta,
You know baby I think I musta,
You know I think I musta,
I musta got lost!!!!!!!
1…2….3…
(Sung)
Never thought about tomorrow
Seemed like a long time to come
How could I be so blind, baby
Not to see you were the one
I let ya slip on from me baby
I let ya walk on by,
Shoulda loved, you told me
I refused to love, I let it die
Musta got lost, musta got lost, musta got lost
Somewhere down the line
Musta got lost, musta got lost
Give away the day you were mine
Don't know why I let you leave me
Honey I don't know
See its hard to see lovin' comin baby
But I have a way to see it go
Musta got lost, musta got lost, musta got lost
Somewhere down the line
Musta got lost, I got lost
Give away the day you were mine
Love can be a sweet thing
girl I just don't understand
made a game outta lovin' you
now I hold a losin' hand
Musta got lost, musta got lost, musta got lost
Somewhere down the line
Musta got lost, I got lost girl
Give away the day you were mine
I just don't understand it
I just don't understand it
I just don't understand it
And I musta got lost, musta got lost, musta got lost
Somewhere down the line, hey
Musta got lost, baby, I got lost girl
Give away the day you were mine
Musta got lost, I got lost, musta got lost
somewhere down the line
Musta got lost, I got lost girl
Give away the day you were mine
C'mon
Oh, I got lost, double-crossed
Your lovin, give it to me all night long
(Instrumental Break)
I said your love got me higher,
than I ever been lifted before
I said your love got me higher,
than I ever been lifted before……
Somewhere…………………
Pillar, when you least expect something good to come along, it will. Good on ya for doing the right thing.
so... today was the most awkward day of my life.
1) I broke up with a cop
2) I fired someone for the first time in my life
3) I got chased by my bosses wife, she angrily ran after me yelling.
The third was the icing on the cake. He's going through a divorce and he just told her he's seeing another chick. So she's been sleeping in the basement. She was going to come home any time, and I was really wanting to get out of there before I had to see her. We had all been friends before all the divorce shit went down, and its just really awkward.
So... we hear the garage door opening, and I run to grab my coat. Then I hear her footsteps in the kitchen walking out the other way. I had to sneak simultaneously around the other way so by the time she got to where I was at, I would then be in the kitchen where she was at. The only problem is she knew exactly what I was doing somehow, and she knew I was sneaking around to avoid her. So I made it to the kitchen, proud of my leet sneaking ability, and then she came running and screaming after me. It was so melodramatic (she was sarcastically yelling and flailing her arms), I thought the whole thing was a joke for a moment. I thought maybe the whole divorce thing was a setup or something, and they planned it all to make me super uncomfortable or something. Then she started yelling "SO WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL. SO WHAT?? SO I GOT CHEATED ON, AND NOW I'M GETTING CHEATED ON AGAIN SO WE'RE GETTING A DIVORCE" I just kind of smiled and mumbled something and made a bee line for the door. The dog got out and I just bolted out of there, I didn't try to hold him back or anything. I just wanted the make the beast with two backs out. I backed out thinking I could run the dog over and I didn't care. it was so make the beast with two backsing uncomfortable. [bang]
So, I'm thinking. WHY ME?? why does this make the beast with two backsing shit happen to me?? My stomach was totally in knots already with firing someone (who really wasn't that bad, so it made me feel alot worse), and the cop thing on top just made me feel nautious. I feel like I could puke now.
It happens to all of us at one time or another. When you start looking at it like it is happening specifically to you for some unknown but purposeful reason - karma, whatever - is when you gotta just let it go man.
Shit happens. People can suck. But not always.
Don't forget that last part because when you are ready to start letting someone else in again, that's when that becomes important.
This is a great place with a lot of great people, very few of which ever suck. [thumbsup]
Quote from: herm on February 20, 2009, 10:24:54 AM
what?
are you saying that guys have ulterior for hanging out with "girls who are friends"
no way.......
I must contest this...
When I first got stationed in Norfolk I met a waitress. She was a nice girl. A buddy and I would always go to the restaurant. He would always try to pick her up. I always ended up talking to her friends (I can be a good wingman). Over time, her and I became friends (as the other dude got married). Her and I have been friends for 10 years now. I've known her through multiple boyfriends (most didn't like me). I went to her college graduation (and she hooked me up with a sorority friend). She postponed her wedding until I came off deployment so I could be in it (and walk her mom down the aisle). When her mom passed away, I dropped everything and took leave to make the funeral. Her husband and I have become friends. Every time I'm in town we hang out (which is slim from halfway around the world).
We never tried to date (even when she didn't have a boyfriend). She's known my fiance and most of my girlfriends. I know I'm straight (I've got Thai strippers that'll vouch for that).
[cheeky]
You've got strippers? Thai nonetheless?
You're alright. [thumbsup]
Piller, someday we need to option your life story for an HBO series and all get rich [laugh]
In all seriousness, you don't need the extra drama with philandering girlfriends, and the drama with your boss isn't your problem.
Just roll with it and do what's best and you'll be ok.
Quote from: slowpoke13 on February 20, 2009, 11:12:18 PM
I must contest this...
When I first got stationed in Norfolk I met a waitress. She was a nice girl. A buddy and I would always go to the restaurant. He would always try to pick her up. I always ended up talking to her friends (I can be a good wingman). Over time, her and I became friends (as the other dude got married). Her and I have been friends for 10 years now. I've known her through multiple boyfriends (most didn't like me). I went to her college graduation (and she hooked me up with a sorority friend). She postponed her wedding until I came off deployment so I could be in it (and walk her mom down the aisle). When her mom passed away, I dropped everything and took leave to make the funeral. Her husband and I have become friends. Every time I'm in town we hang out (which is slim from halfway around the world).
We never tried to date (even when she didn't have a boyfriend). She's known my fiance and most of my girlfriends. I know I'm straight (I've got Thai strippers that'll vouch for that).
[cheeky]
Whats she look like?
Quote from: cyrus buelton on February 20, 2009, 03:28:33 PM
geez, better be scared that my wife is friends with guys........
[roll]
Well, when you put it through the reality translator, "my wife is friends with guys..." means: "my wife feels the need to have friendships with men (who would probably bone her at the drop of a hat) because her feeble self-esteem is not bolstered enough just with my love and affection."
make the beast with two backs that, dude.
Quote from: Sinister on February 21, 2009, 02:21:39 PM
Well, when you put it through the reality translator, "my wife is friends with guys..." means: "my wife feels the need to have friendships with men (who would probably bone her at the drop of a hat) because her feeble self-esteem is not bolstered enough just with my love and affection."
make the beast with two backs that, dude.
Dude... seriously?
Don't think you're being a little controlling or possessive there? I've got lots of friends that are women, and I don't want to nail one of 'em... well, maybe one. But you don't think that's possible? Or that your wife could have the same? There may be a little distrust there... or insecurity.
There are of course limits to this. If a male "friend" was crashing at your house while you weren't there, I can see being uncomfortable about that. But aside from that, relax a little man.
Quote from: swampduc on February 21, 2009, 02:26:37 PM
Dude... seriously?
But you don't think that's possible? Or that your wife could have the same? There may be a little distrust there... or insecurity.
Man bites dog, of course. In large part, no, I don't think it's possible. I think it goes both ways, too: I don't have female friends. Why would I?
No, no distrust or insecurity at all.
Quote from: rgramjet on February 21, 2009, 06:59:38 AM
Whats she look like?
Pretty damn good looking. And, if the opportunity came up when we first met, I might have pursued. But, it never did and we became friends.
Quote from: Sinister on February 21, 2009, 02:35:07 PM
Man bites dog, of course. In large part, no, I don't think it's possible. I think it goes both ways, too: I don't have female friends. Why would I?
No, no distrust or insecurity at all.
Why would you not have female friends? Is the only purpose of having the other sex around to try to hump them? Is it not possible to enjoy someone's company just for the fact that you have things in common? Is the only reason you have guy friends because you're sure you won't try to sleep with them and they won't try to sleep with you?
Now, if it becomes where your wife/gf is lying to you about who she's hanging out with or is blowing you off to spend time with someone else, there's a problem. But, that problem exists whether she's hanging out with a dude or a chick.
Quote from: Sinister on February 21, 2009, 02:21:39 PM
Well, when you put it through the reality translator, "my wife is friends with guys..." means: "my wife feels the need to have friendships with men (who would probably bone her at the drop of a hat) because her feeble self-esteem is not bolstered enough just with my love and affection."
make the beast with two backs that, dude.
I have female friends.
Does that mean I want to bone them?
Absolutely not. They are friends.
Quote from: cyrus buelton on February 21, 2009, 08:16:33 PM
I have female friends.
Does that mean I want to bone them?
Absolutely not. They are friends.
Now, if said female friends were at the house, the girlfriend was there, and we are all enjoying a hot tub and some sake and things got "out of control..."
... Ohh wait, that's a post for a different forum...
It's pretty apparent that Sinister had some issues in the past with his female companions and male friends.
There are some male friends I'd trust around my girlfriend. But, I'd trust my girlfriend around all guys. If not, why would you even be in a relationship with her?
(http://www.ahajokes.com/cartoon/a0017.jpg)
Quote from: slowpoke13 on February 21, 2009, 08:47:15 PM
There are some male friends I'd trust around my girlfriend. But, I'd trust my girlfriend around all guys. If not, why would you even be in a relationship with her?
Well said.
Pillar - tough times you're going through.
Don't let #3 get to you. Your boss and wife are going through their own problems.
Do not let it affect you.
Yes you care.
Yes you wish it weren't happening, but it is.
Step back, take an objective look and say to yourself 'let them do whatever they want. the situation will resolve itself and i should not interfere. i cannot change them.'
you can still be a friend without being emotionally entangled in their fight.
save yourself!!!
Thanks for all the advice..
so I quit talking to her, and she left a long message about how much she cares about me, how much her son loves me, etc. I still didn't talk to her, and she'd text me stuff like "no need to txt back, just want to let you know I'm thinking about you and hope you're doing well". I still didn't say anything so she wrote "will u help me find treatment? I need to go to a hospital". It was last night at midnight. I didn't reply and she writes "help me". Just seemed like some ploy to get me involved with her again. Her car was there this AM, but wasn't there when I got back this evening, so I guess she's still alive.
Damn crazy cops. I kind of feel like an asshole for not calling or something - but I think that's her goal. Anyway, I just txt'd her "what happened? are you ok?".
oh god. She wrote back "I bottomed out last nite.. I need u" I'm not sure what that means, but it's the all too familiar sound of a train wreck. I just wrote "call ev". "E-V" is the guy who came over. Yeah, I'm not gonna get mixed up in whatever mess that is. I'm starting to like my [coffee]
Hmm. She takes pain pills for her headaches..
She said she "took too many pills, freaked out, going to therapy on Tues, gonna make changes"
bad freaking news.
I assume that's going to effect her job status? I hope....
Quote from: NAKID on February 22, 2009, 05:49:17 PM
I assume that's going to effect her job status? I hope....
Nope
not if she initiates the treatment prior to disciplinary action
at least not in my experience
the whole carrying a gun thing might have a different effect on the rules in her case though
Exactly what I was getting at. She should be riding a desk for a while...
she was on duty for a while, she's just a juvie parole officer now. She does sleep w/ a gun under her mattress so she tells me. I feel sorry for her though. she has an 11yr old son.
Wow, just read this thread....you've done the right thing. I can imagine how hard it was to walk away with the kid involved though.
On another note, I used to sleep with a piece under my pillow in a holster. Woke up one night clutching the damn thing with my finger inside the trigger guard. Scared the shit outta me, so I bought one of those 4 button combo safes and located it nearby where I sleep. No safety on the glocks....could have never woken up...uggh.
one more thing Pillar...
find a new place to live. and change your phone number.
Run out of that mess!!
Quote from: cyrus buelton on February 21, 2009, 08:43:39 PM
It's pretty apparent that Sinister had some issues in the past with his female companions and male friends.
Hmm...searching the memory banks, here. I don't really think so, but maybe #2 sparked a little of that. My friends, most commonly, share common interests and such; my sports/interests are pretty much male-dominated. Why do I need female friends? If I want a "woman's perspective", I have a wife, mother, and sister. Now, I guess I would say that I have female acquaintances which, while I am friendly towards, with which I am not familiar or platonically intimate.
Whatever works for people, I guess.
Piller - wasn't until I said "I'd rather NEVER get married than marry the wrong man" that the most wonderful guy!!! I guess it took being with a jackass for 2 1/2 years for me to realize what are good traits to be attracted to.
Yeah, he's not handsome, no cleft chin, no rippling muscles, but he's one of the kindest gentlest funniest men I know.
And 20 years of shared interests, laughter and respect for each other have been absolutely wonderful.
Don't look for Angelina Jolie (or Chrissy Tar...whatever dream girl's name is), that stuff fades. High maintenance gets old real quick. You'll find her when you're not looking.
Man, Piller, you took the right route. Seeing her attachment with the other guy while with you and how she handles the current situation are enough warning signs.
A few of my friends have ex's like her. These girls can't handle being ditch by a guy. Some went berserk (file sexual harassment charges, destroying his properties, home, work, and cell phone harassment...) on my friends demanding he get back with them. They'll form a strong emotional attachment to a guy once he ditch's them. Hence, if any of their ex don't mind, these girls have their ex's on speed dial for "emotional support". Glad you bailed early and save yourself from future regrets. There are great gals out there worth meeting. Many of us here can attest to this, especially the ancient crew ;D
Damn, poor kid though
Quote from: lauramonster on February 22, 2009, 07:53:13 PM
Piller - wasn't until I said "I'd rather NEVER get married than marry the wrong man" that the most wonderful guy!!! I guess it took being with a jackass for 2 1/2 years for me to realize what are good traits to be attracted to.
Yeah, he's not handsome, no cleft chin, no rippling muscles, but he's one of the kindest gentlest funniest men I know.
And 20 years of shared interests, laughter and respect for each other have been absolutely wonderful.
Don't look for Angelina Jolie (or Chrissy Tar...whatever dream girl's name is), that stuff fades. High maintenance gets old real quick. You'll find her when you're not looking.
Thanks alot Laura. Very nice advice.
Today she had a bunch of DEA's come and talk to the juvies. She said they came to talk about drugs and how lots of people start taking pain pills for legit reasons. I was very worried someone from the forum figured out who this girl was and had them go to her workplace. She said they even talked about the same pain med she takes. hydrocodeine. She told me later that it was scheduled though. She said she just took 3 ambien and 2 pain pills, but she was puking uncontrollably (brain injury which makes her need to take the pain pills).
Anyway, I hate being an asshole and making someone feel so bad about themselves. It's hard to take that. I understand the whole making the guy feel guilty so he comes back thing though. I feel especially guilty though because her son liked me so much and always asked when I'm coming over.
I'm holding out ok though.
glad to hear.