http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/pic%20of%20weak/ducati_monster_s4r_1098.htm
Damn.
I was expecting an actual bike.
Quote from: Rameses on May 19, 2008, 07:59:54 AM
Damn.
I was expecting an actual bike.
Sorry I did too.. [laugh] that is why I had to post it..
They gotta do something right? I sat on the 1100 Multi this weekend and the engine looks pretty sweet. I wouldn't kick a 1098 Monster out of bed if you get my drift.
Quote from: gnostic203 on May 19, 2008, 08:48:49 AM
I sat on the 1100 Multi this weekend and the engine looks pretty sweet.
You should ride it. [evil]
Quote from: red baron on May 19, 2008, 08:50:49 AM
You should ride it. [evil]
+1, the Multi is a sweet bike to ride..!!
I hate being so ignorant but here goes. The 1100cc engine is not the 1098 engine right?
The 1100cc engine is actually a 1078cc air-cooled 2V engine which is basically a DS1000 engine w/larger diameter pistons in it.
If Ducati does put the 1098 into a Monster chassis, and as Ducatis' go...it should mean that the new generation SBK's (think the one after the 1098) should be a V4 engine based on the 'Cedici. That's my guess anyways.
Quote from: Juan on May 19, 2008, 07:56:28 AM
http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/pic%20of%20weak/ducati_monster_s4r_1098.htm
(http://www.sampowers.net/images/d-well_puke2_bg.jpg)
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Damn, Hank...can't see your pic from work.
Anyway, I think the white one pictured in the original link looks pretty, and the red one doesn't look bad. Heck, the black one would look okay if the frame was black, too. [thumbsup]
The radiator treatment looks light-years better than the current S4RS (which IMO has about the ugliest radiator ever hung on a motorcycle). :P
I've read complaints since the first pics of the 696 came out about how Ducati should never have put those cast rear pieces on it, but IMO all things evolve. The stressed-member frame is still trademark Ducati trellis, and the complete package in the pictures in the link looks pretty sweet, IMO. The deep-sump 4v motor integrates quite nicely in with the look of the new tank, and the overall lines of the package look good in profile. I'm thinking twin cans, one on each side, would complete the picture (I've always liked double-sided high mufflers).
My two cents, thanks.
I had heard the 1098 based bikes would be "Non Monsters"
That subframe is a step in the wrong direction.
i can understand why they would design the frame in two separate pieces, look at the Hypermoto:
(http://www.fastdates.com/PLN.NewBikes/Ducati/2008Hypermoto/Hyperm.07Naked.jpg)
keep the trellis swingarm too while your at it!
Maybe the round headlight too--and that tank, I mean air vents?!
Anyway, no sir, I don't like it!
My local dealer got the 696 in last week and immediately put the Termis on it. I gotta say, it looks better in person than in pics. Seems like everyone said that about the 999 too. Anyway, I think it's inevitable that they'll go down this path on future Monsters, whether they do it in one big bang or gradually by slowly phasing out the older models. And of course it's always been their tradition to eventually slam the sbk motor into a Monster so we're sure to see a 1098 engined Monster. And in answer to the earlier post, no, the 1100 DS motor in the Multi isn't the sbk 1098 motor. The 1100 motor is the air-cooled 2v motor while the 1098 is the liquid-cooled 4v sbk motor. And yes, the Multi is a fantastic bike. A great do-it-all sporting beast that can carry stuff and handle two-up days with ease. One bike is never enough, but if it had to be just one the Multi would get the nod.
999 styling is gone.
hmmmm...interesting but...do you really want all that power in a naked frame?
IMHO, i'd prefer to tweak my S4 up to ~130hp which is plenty for me and save enough money for a used 1098 ;D
Quote from: hydra on May 19, 2008, 07:02:39 PM
hmmmm...interesting but...do you really want all that power in a naked frame?
IMHO, i'd prefer to tweak my S4 up to ~130hp which is plenty for me and save enough money for a used 1098 ;D
+1 IMO if one wants super (ie 1098) power he (or she) should get a super bike
Quote from: aa4111 on May 19, 2008, 07:17:58 PM
+1 IMO if one wants super (ie 1098) power he (or she) should get a super bike
Agreed. Besides, I still cannot get over the flattened headlight look.
Quote from: DRKWNG on May 19, 2008, 08:41:19 PM
Agreed. Besides, I still cannot get over the flattened headlight look.
Good grief, buy a set of Angel Eyes or something. It's not like you're not allowed to mod a Monster folks. What's the first thing you do when you buy a current gen Monster? You start taking the ugly off!! Tail chop reflectors, exhaust, and so on, to what ever extreme you want. I hate the headlight too, however I'm not gonna let it ruin the bike for me..... as for a 1098 engine..... you can't use that much power in a 1098 on the street, in a Monster prolly overkill. I've said more than once I think the 848 mill would be perfect for this class of machine. Retuned for more mid and low range, nice and light bike, spells fun for me. [moto]
Ok, this site is just speculating, and made an out-of-proportion photochop to go with it. C'mon.
That said, I'm growing tired of supernakeds, and a 1098 mill in the new monster platform just wouldn't jive IMO. I'd rather see a naked 1098 or 848 with a handlebar, analog gauges, etc. Not only would it likely work better (ie Mille to Tuono), it'd probably look better too.
Ehh... I don't know about looking better. You seen either of those bikes with their clothes off? It's a plumbing nightmare. Ducati would definitely need to clean 'em up a bit.
I like it [drink]
As far as the headlight goes, face it folks, this is the decade of the ugly headlight, check out most of the cars. I will have to see how well it works before I pass judgement.
Quote from: WannaDucBad on May 19, 2008, 10:49:37 PM
Ehh... I don't know about looking better. You seen either of those bikes with their clothes off? It's a plumbing nightmare. Ducati would definitely need to clean 'em up a bit.
I have seen them and they look very much like a monster with a lot of plumbing.
I've been told that the nekkid 1098 will be just that - a nekkid 1098. No more watercooled Monsters. :'(
Quote from: WannaDucBad on May 19, 2008, 10:22:35 PM
Good grief, buy a set of Angel Eyes or something. It's not like you're not allowed to mod a Monster folks. What's the first thing you do when you buy a current gen Monster? You start taking the ugly off!! Tail chop reflectors, exhaust, and so on, to what ever extreme you want. I hate the headlight too, however I'm not gonna let it ruin the bike for me..... as for a 1098 engine..... you can't use that much power in a 1098 on the street, in a Monster prolly overkill. I've said more than once I think the 848 mill would be perfect for this class of machine. Retuned for more mid and low range, nice and light bike, spells fun for me. [moto]
I couldn't agree with you more! [thumbsup]
It would be nice to tweak the plumbing a bit on the 848 motor to simplify the looks too.
Quote from: JerryXt on May 20, 2008, 10:30:32 AM
I've been told that the nekkid 1098 will be just that - a nekkid 1098. No more watercooled Monsters. :'(
Well if that's true, maybe they'll do a better job styling the naked 1098 than they did with that 696 abortion that they're calling a monster.
Well if Ducati were to turn a 1098 into a monster/naked bike, it would be nice to talk to the NCR people, they did in My Opinion a really nice job with the Testastreta 998..! I am sure most of you guys have seen it.
http://www.ncrfactory.com/eng/html/16.00.shtml
Some pix..
(http://www.eurotechmoto.com/ncr/prod_pics/macchira/7.jpg)
(http://www.eurotechmoto.com/ncr/prod_pics/macchira/10.jpg)
Wow. That NCR bike is sweet. I really like that. As for the 1098 monster, isnt that a bit much power? Maybe not I guess. I just think the way the motor will be retuned and the bike itself isnt that comfortable for highspeed riding, maybe overkill. I mean I havew an S4 and I could use a few mroe ponies, but not 60.