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I don't know what's with the delivery drivers in this area, but for the third time in several months, a FEDEX driver claims he attempted to deliver a package and just left a door tag.

My wife was in the living room (<30ft from the door) when he "claims" he attempted delivery. The doorbell works and she can hear a normal knock from outside.
I had some new uniforms shipped (paid extra to get them by today). When my wife went to throw something away, she found the tag on the door. I called the dispatcher and let them know, they said they would have the driver call me within 15 mins to let me know if he could re-deliver it today. An hour later I call them back to find out what the problem is. They leave a message while I'm talking to another rep letting me know the driver is too busy to re-deliver.
Needless to say, I call them back and let them have it. They take the complaint report and tell me that's all they can do, sorry. I ask to speak to a manager and they connect me with the manager at the dispatch station responsible for my delivery (30 miles away). This person tells me they will credit me the shipping charge and find a way to get me the package today.

I HATE FEDEX! If there was another shipping option from anyone I buy from, I would select it.

FedEx - 30% less boot marks than UPS

you could just have a shitty driver too.
if you complain about him more than once something will happen. you just have to actually make the call.

 :-X

Same EXACT thing happend to me!  I also left a large note on the door reading "FEDEX PLEASE LEAVE ON DOORSTEP"  then I signed the note...  They left a door tag.  I also had the person sending the package to specifically check the "no signature needed" box

I called later that night so see where I could pick up the package-

me: What are the hours at the South San Francisco location?
operator:  Oh, it's closed
me: That's great, but I asked you what the hours are...
op: I don't know.
me: could you please ask someone?
op: they are all busy
me: I am willing to hold on... Is there anyone else I can speak with?
op: No
me: Can I speak with your manager?
CLICK!  

Fixed it for you. ;D

You're most likely right about the driver.

I hate FEDEX.



I only use UPS.

I use US Mail whenever possible. Both of those freebooters kinda suck and cost a lot more.

+11ty billion.

USPS is the best. Then comes fedex, UPS can suck my balls. they've stolen more shit than a crack head.

Same here. It just sux that sometimes I don't have the option to choose who the shipper uses.

This is actually the third time I have complained of this exact same thing. Apparently the guy who claims he attempted to deliver it today is the regular driver for the area. I wonder how many undelivered packages this guy takes back to the dispatch location.

When I got to the location today, the manager had set my package right behind the desk and told the clerk that I would be coming in to pick it up. When I told the clerk why I was there to pick it up, she said "Oh, she said she'd be reprimanding the driver".

Anchorage is a major air freight hub, given the number of Fedex / UPS 747's every nite, one would think rates to Alaska would be reasonable, but no [bang] [bang].
We use USPS every chance we get. [thumbsup]

My UPS and FedEx drivers are both patients of mine. They'll leave packages in my barn for me if needed. The postmistress in our town will phone up to see if someone's home before attempting delivery.

There are disadvantages to living in a small town, but there are benefits as well!

I've had the same thing happen with FedEx. I think it was my QD ex-box actually. And my RAZR. And my iPhone. Basically, Fed Ex sucks.

UPS has generally been good to me, but I try not to look at their tracking page since it inevitably shows my package sitting in a warehouse for 3 days, 40 miles from my house so they don't have to deliver any faster than necessary.

USPS has been the most consistent. Only had one issue in the last couple years. They also managed to get an international package to its destination in 2 days when the other 2 services either couldn't do the delivery, or couldn't do it within a week.

AMEN to that brotha!!!

One of FedEx's shipment methods is actually USPS. It's really lame. I ordered something and stayed home expecting Fedex to drop off the package. Then when I went to check my mail at the end of the day, USPS had dropped off the package in my mailbox but it said FedEx on it.  [roll]

It's actually the other way around.

Fed-Ex carries USPS stuff between major cities...

and delivers to the delivering PO.

Your carrier brings it to your house.

iv learned to use nothing but USPS and Canada post living in Canada. If i miss the delivery (which i always do), they will leave my package at a post office 5 minutes from my house. and without a $150 brokerage fee on an item like UPS does [bang]

Really? Odd... The day that I had that happen I checked online before I checked my mail and it said that my package had been delivered so I called FedEx and they told it to me the way I had it and told me to check my mail. When you say "Your carrier" who do you mean? FedEx, USPS, or whoever you thought you were sending your package with?

Your USPS mail carrier.

I've sent stuff overseas via USPS and have had to fill out Fed-Ex forms.

Maybe it's really all one big company.... [evil]

Hats here...

get your tinfoil hats. [laugh]

Here is how it works. USPS does not have any airplanes. They basically pack all the shipments in any flight they have available, specifically UPS and FedEx planes. They also put stuff on regular carrier airplanes.

UPS can also suck my sweaty nut sack! They suck the most by far. It's been rare that I've had issues with USPS and they are usually cheapest, so it's a no brainer. Other than that I will choose FedEx over UPS any day. If you complain, they will move the driver onto a different route. You can also lie and say that he was inappropriate with your wife. That will work every time.

UPS can be pretty vicious towards their drivers. I befriended a UPS driver when I worked on the docks. He told me horror stories of UPS suits (and their wives) driving around to bust them for uniform violations. My buddy got written up because he didn't have UPS uniform socks - he was wearing plain brown ones instead. Write-ups impact promotion and pay raises.

It's good to see so much love for the old USPS. Canada Post, on the other hand, can bite me. They're probably GREAT within Canada, but getting parcels across the border is like smuggling microfilm past the Berlin Wall.

fedex ground (formerly RPS) has shipped a few things USPS. UPS ground does the same thing.
it's cheaper and less time consuming than sending out a driver to someone's house for small packages that don't require a signature.

my fedex uniforms always came UPS. at my station we would get stuff from the post office every now and then. i think DHL was the shipper for our scanners too. it was hilarious to see customers pull up and see the UPS or DHL van.

Why is it wrong to make sure your employees are doing what they're supposed to in the uniform they are supposed to wear?

As for write-ups, they don't affect anything unless you have big ass folder full of them.  UPS is union, it's almost impossible to fire drivers and they get raises every year just for being there.

 I worked at UPS for 7 years, most of it in management.  There is nothing worse than having some scumbag work for you and not being able to do anything about it because of the union.  Like most things, get rid of the union and the company would be much better off.

There's a lot of political content in your post that I'd take exception to, but I'll just say I strongly disagree rather than threadjack.

It's wrong to chase drivers looking for reasons to punish them. Dave was in uniform, but he didn't have the $19 UPS socks. It wasn't his boss that "found him out", but his boss's wife who made a habit of being a uniform police person. He had the exact same color socks, but without the UPS logo on them. He was on a package truck, but wanted to drive the big rigs. He felt he was punished not for being out of uniform, but for not buying overpriced socks from the company. That was a scumbag move.

They don't chase them looking for reasons to punish them.  They do go out to check that drivers are following the proper procedures (i.e. not driving with bulkhead doors open).  Even if it's someone not from UPS calling the center to say that a driver did this or that.  I worked in South Jersey near the beach.  Lots of UPS management have homes on the islands.  I told my guys that there were people out there that look for stuff like that and that they needed to make sure they were doing the right thing.  I can't imagine there weren't other supervisors out there that did the same.  If they happen to catch someone doing something wrong, well, then maybe that guy should have been doing the job that he gets paid really well to do a little bit better.  In the military, if you're out of uniform you get shit for it.  Why should a company like UPS, whose brown uniform is a huge part of the company, be any different?  If people don't like it, they're always free to find alternate employment. 

PS  I'm not really sure how not liking unions is political.  It's purely business, as far as I'm concerned.

Edit:  To get this back on topic, other than complaining to the local center, I'm not sure what else you can do.  Unlike UPS, FedEx is mostly non-union and their drivers are largely independent contractors that own their own trucks and to some extent, the route as well.  This also plays a part in whether or not a driver will leave a package.  He's directly responsible for that package and if the neighborhood isn't so great, he ain't leaving it. 

I'm not sure what options are open to the company as far as disciplining a driver.

only fed ex ground(green) drivers own their trucks. express(purple) owns it's fleet and employs drivers.

Because it was socks. That's why it was ridiculous. It wasn't safety, it wasn't some kind of individualistic flair, it was a bored wife of a manager taking it upon herself to look for infractions. Of ALL the people I dealt w/ from UPS when I managed the docks, he was by far the most professional, competent and timely driver we had from ANY line. Yet his supervisor was proactively looking for reasons to punish rather than evaluating his record of performance. That's shitty.

And slamming unions IS a political statement.

Give it up guys. No one wants to be banned because of this stupid thread.

Anyway, I see what Dannyboy is saying. I think it's better to take it back than to leave it in a not so good neighborhood, but Nakid's point is that his wife was at home and the driver did not even try to ring the the bell or knock. I'll be the first one to admit that I get lost in my work and never hear them at the door, but at least the guy knocks. I usually don't have a problem with the delivery guy except when one of them was hitting on my wife. I definitely took exception to that.

I have shipped >4,000 packages in the past 2 years (just checked my log) via UPS. Locations include all over the US.


Never had a lost or damaged package.

Lucky you. I've had at least 3 lost packages in a lot less shipping.

Those long over the ocean flights often have to account for monthes spent on islands talking to volleyballs..... really jacks the price up.  [laugh]Actually it's not. He's correct it's a business statement, the fact that the unions love involving themselves in politics and coercing their members into voting one way or another does not make them political organizations. They're first and foremost "cause" is to negociate unreasonable better contracts for labor from management. No politics there is there?

I was working in a project in FedEx when that movie came out. They kept saying that no FedEx plane had ever crashed. A few years later FedEx had their first crash.

I'm sure we all have a love/hate relationship with unions and everyone has a very strong opinion about them. You know the saying about opinions and assholes, right?

The point of this thread is about delivery of goods via parcel carriers. If you'd like to debate the politics of unionism, feel free to PM me.

We've done it before. Not much point. I know you hate to see them publicly exposed for the frauds and determents they are so I'll leave it alone.... but union does not equal political. It is not their primary purpose and it's funny to watch you play the politics card to keep from having anything bad said about your pet.

I don't care if it's political or not but it's the same nobody wins discussion/full of hate type of issue.   If you want to argue about unions please do it by PM. 

Yeah, it's much better to argue about how lawyers are evil  ;D

How they're evil, or whether they're evil?

I just want to make sure we end up debating the right thing.

I would say how much they are evil. Setting a range will help us keep on subject.

range?      somewhere between kicking a box of kittens and sleeping with your wife then getting her your bike in the divorce.

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Exactly, but I would change kittens to adorable beagle puppies with the cute long ears. Kicking that box is more evil.

there would have been roofing nails in the box in my version, but they were shipped by FedEx so I didn't get them in time for the kicking.   But sure, we can go with beagle puppies.

Damn FedEx. I'll get my union boys on that real quick.

I've heard the approved uniform socks are beagle puppy teeth proof.

Yeah, but those cost $35,000. I only buy the ones that cost $10,000. The cheap ones can only withstand alligator teeth.  [bang]

what about eating kittens.
is that too evil?

Obligatory UPS girl post.  ;D

(http://billyblastdrums.easystorecreator.com/images/images_10526/UPS%20Girl.jpg)

I wish I could see if her socks were uniform. Badly delivering packages IS equivalent to the military after all.  [coffee]

She's actually not wearing any...  [roll]

Explain please...

His feelings are still hurt that his friend was in trouble for being out of uniform. Someone compared it to a military uniform. The truth is a uniform is a uniform for exactly that reason. They should all be identicle. If they weren't expected to be as such it would say dress "business casual/ or suit required/ shorts exceptable, etc...". They would be listed as "suggestions" not a "uniform".


I believe the inportant thing here is that we recognize the outstanding job lil Mz UPS is doing there. She's got that box right side UP.  ;)

my FEELINGS aren't hurt - it's just one more example of how UPS is a bush league operation.

  [coffee]

wow you guys managed to turn this right back into serious didn't you. 

oh well.  carry on.

 [cheeky]

Here's an interesting twist on that. As far as the military goes, we are only limited to a "type" and "color" of sock for the particular uniform, not a specific brand.

I'm trying to stay out of this. I don't care about the subject that much as I am an advocate for USPS and as far as arguing on the internet, we already know how that works out.

UPS sucks...

as does their policy of harassing employees about the color of their socks or the length of their mustache...

there...

I said it. ;D

Has nothing to do with unions or politics...

just UPS sucking.

 [beer]

I have better pics of her.  :)

You used to be able find a lot of NSFW pictures of her by doing a google search. Sadly not so much anymore but there are still some more pics of her and imitations floating around the interwebz though.  :P

I think this thread is funny. [laugh]

Lets get back to the seriousness of this issue about socks

Prior to the ambulance company i work for now

I worked for another ambulance company...we will call them by their reputation name of Comedy ambulance

part of the required uniform was

at least 8" black leather boot

khaki pants without a rolled cuff that extended to the ankle bone when sitting

and

brown socks

and yes management would make you pull up your pants and remove your boot to see if your socks were brown

 [roll]

My only point involving the uniform is this...
During the hiring process you are informed of any dress code/uniform code. You agree to that or not. Free will baby, if you're all together sick of being forced to wear sleeves get a job at OCC, if it's cleanliness that bothers you, go lay sod. RXB's friend knew and understood the dress code. He decided he'd rather risk an infraction than pay extra for the socks. Just as we risk a ticket when we speed. Often times we aren't caught, it doesn't mean we weren't breaking the rules. Yes even if it was just by a couple of mph.

His friend is not the victim here, his friend made an informed decision. He lost a gamble, it doesn't surprise me that RXB would feel his friend was victimized though, most labor sympathizers tend to feel they are victims in a world they cannot control without the power of numbers. They fail to see that they are willfully employed and capable of changing there lot when and as they wish. No vote needed.


There now you really got me on my soap box.  :-*

Dammit Statler, sorry I did it again, I was trying to ignore the pokes but it's no bueno. Delete it if you must, I don't care. I said and feel better.  :P

interesting point of view

it sounds to me like you have had some extensive experience in the realm of taking responsibility for something you royally fouled up

I find it inspiring...seriously I do

but

I doubt I could ever take on such a black and white outlook 

what it comes down to is neither side

Labor or management need to do what they do on a regular basis to make the beast with two backs each other over

it is a huge waste of everyone's time

an officail write up for a uniform infraction is as ridiculous as it can get

a proper leader would get his crew the proper gear and have a talk later

see if it was an act of defiance or if there was an underlying financial issue and maybe loan the guy a couple hunskies

unfortunately most managers and most employees look at the work place as an us vs. them environment

it is unfortunate for everyone involved

Type in UPS Girl into google images with the safe search off. You will not be disappointed...

Ah, now I do agree with that. Just as an LEO who gives out a ticket for 3mph over is definitely being a "dick". In the grand scheme of things there are more important things that one could concern ones self with. But by the letter there is a break of the rules.

And you're are spot on about a good manager/supervisor finding better ways of motivating his people to work within the system. But again free will and all, if your work experience is that without benefits... change it. Unfortunately there are a lot of people in this world whom with just the merest trifling of power become complete asses. The thing those under them have to weigh is "is the compensation worth my time and my effort". Having the courage to stand on the decision you make is the hard part.

BTW you'd have to be more sspecific when referring to a time I've had to except responsiblity for royally make the beast with two backsing up. It's happened more than a  couple times.  ;) If you've ever been self-employed, you'll find the truely "the buck stops here" because no else cares about excuses.Ew, on closer inspection that girl got hit with the ugly stick.

the guy was out of uniform and got written up.


what's the problem?


don't want to buy the UPS logo socks?


find another place of employment.

If you guys want to keep talking about socks (for whatever reason), maybe look into the reason why lots of UPS guys have issues. The uniforms are provided (through negotiation), but the socks are not and they're only available from UPS. They're $26 for 6 pairs and they last less than 2 months. Brown socks from Wal-Mart last these guys 6-8 months and cost about a dollar a pair. By the contract, UPS is supposed to provide all required uniforms. The socks are required, but they are not provided. The only socks are absolutely inferior. Some guys have sewn the tops of UPS socks onto other socks. Still a uniform violation, but this makes them last longer.

The speeding ticket isn't an apt comparison because purchasing socks has no external effect on others whereas speeding does. No one has EVER died or accidentally killed someone else due to wearing the wrong socks. This isn't really even about socks. This is about a crap company treating their most key asset (the people who have direct contact with the customer) like crap. It's AN example, not the only example.

It's their company they can run it and treat their empployees anyway they choose. They choose to treat them badly and thus get shitty employees. Resulting in the reviews they've had within this thread. It's called a free market. Everything has a cause and effect.
FTR $26 for 6 paris NOT a bad price. And BS on Walmart socks lasting 6 monthes. I'm in a job where I move all day long no sitting, Walmart socks (the cheap ones) are shit, they don't last 3 monthes. Socks I've found are one of those items that you get what you pay for.
BTW if the UPS guys were smart they'd realize that part of their uniform that they have to pay for out of pocket is a tax deduction.

The ticket is a fine analogy if you leave it at the level of fines and punishment.

This thread is getting funnier by the minute.  ;D

Bah, you guys are no fun.
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How so? ARe you making fun of the need to use socks? What kind of person are you? I'm going to write you up.

That's only about 4.30$ a pair, that is about right.


Last gold toe socks I bought were about that price.



walmart socks make the beast with two backsing suck, dude. No way they are lasting 6 months.

Oh no you didn't...

Another example why unions are out of step with reality. UPS provides their workers uniforms, but they still pregnant dog about having to spend $26 every 2 month on socks. Gimme a break. My work doesn't provide me any clothes, but does dictate the general fashion in which I must dress. It is a lot more than $26 every 2 months...even if I can buy stuff from wherever I want.

My dad was a firefighter for the Air Force (federal employee). Not only did they dictate his uniform...but he had to buy it...all of it.

I don't know if UPS is good to work for or not. I did have a few friends in college that loaded trucks though, and they liked their job...and from what I hear a UPS driver has to either die or retire for a driver spot to open up...suggesting it is a pretty well liked job. But, I have no FHE. Your sock argument is pretty lame though, and just sounds like the drivers have nothing else to pregnant dog about.

I like USPS and Fed-Ex better anyway...UPS cost too damn much.

I have sock needs.

I always laugh when people whine about the benefits union workers get but then pregnant dog about unions. It's ironic some of you are praising the free market but not realizing this example (and it is just an example) is the opposite of the free market. UPS operates a company store and requires workers to purchase from it and they sell INFERIOR goods! Workers used to have to purchase their own uniforms as well. UPS started issuing uniforms (through negotiated contract) for security reasons. It was in the company's self-interest because these drivers are the face of the company.

As far as the traffic ticket, let's carry your analogy further. If it was the wife of the sgt. of the traffic division driving around and recording plate numbers of speeders - not the policeman - THEN you're closer to the mark of this situation.



Enjoy the black and white worldview.

Yes, I did.



American Pie style?

 [laugh] [laugh]

You laugh now, but wait until we have to sleep in the same camper...

Tiffer's won't hesitate to thrown down on you again.

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You only have to wear the UPS logo socks if you wear shorts, and the decision to wear shorts is up to the individual UPS driver.

I was so make the beast with two backsing wasted that night I barely felt that wedgie. I did feel it the next day.

True.  I have a friend who works for UPS here in MA.  He likes to wear shorts almost year round except for the real frigid days.  (His route is indoors at a very large mall so he can get away with it.)  Anyway...  he gets written up if he wears shorts past a certain date.   So...... he went to his doctor and had a "medically necessary" note written.   [cheeky] [clap]

Management was not happy.

Lets say the socks do only last for 6 months. So a driver makes what? $60K? Hmm, I'm sure there are lots of people out there that would be willing to provide the $156 per year of socks to have the $60K job. If it's really an "issue" then the union can drop their dues $13 a month and everyone can quit crying over socks.

There really is no excuse or whining to be done. You agree to wear the entire uniform. It's part of their branding and marketing. They stay successful, you stay employed. Don't like it? Buy a rural route from the USPS and deliver the mail in your boxers.

krolik's right...

this is hilarious

Yup.... I find it funny as hell also. To listen to my friends complain about their jobs. Two of them work for UPS. One has 18 years under his belt there and pulls down almost 90k per year!  Delivering packages!!!! I don't care if sox cost ten bucks a pair   Sign me up! 

ya know...

the money is good...better than good.

I could live really well on 90K.

But this kid would kick the first make the beast with two backser that told him to cut his mustache...or that his socks weren't regulation...

in the nuts.

I'm like that.

I guess I can kiss that 90K goodbye. ;D

I just do what the make the beast with two backs I want to, act like I don't give a shit what they do to me, and they never say shit.  ;)

these people are like that everywhere. this has happend to me with fedex and usps. they just leave the notice there and don't even bother to ring the bell to see if someone is home.

also, once before the usps rang my bell, i answered the door 15 secs later and the driver had already run to her car and took off. the b*** left me the notice on the door  [bang]

My USPS driver is probably 60, he gets out, walks up the stairs to my door, knocks first then immediately rings the doorbell. Never miss him delivering a package...

he's old school... my driver is a young lady and looks like she doesn't like her job she smokes while she drives the little cube. it would be funny to see the whole thing catch fire one day.

That's terrible.  [roll]

Unemployable?  :)

You should see the 5" thick book of rules I have to follow (policy manual).

Not exactly...

but pretty much. ;)

I didn't make $90k my first 3 years as a full-time physician. That, of course, was after a year of subspecialty fellowship (during which I made nearly $30k working 60-70 hour weeks), 4 years of residency (during which I made $20-25k working 70-80 hour weeks), 4 years of medical school (that I paid for), and 4 years of college (that I paid for). I worked all through college and medical school part-time, but I never got a year-round regular paycheck until I was 24 and was nearly 30 when I finished my training and started paying back my student loans. Like most people in most jobs, I had to buy my own clothes, as well as white coats, stethoscopes, etc., etc. (including socks.) Have you ever priced ophthalmoscopes? I went through several during my training, funded by cleaning mouse shit out of cages and washing down autopsy tables (which, incidentally, paid more per hour than I made practicing medicine until I'd been in practice for a few years.)

No complaints - I chose to do this, knew I'd have to go into debt to train, and knew my high school classmates who did apprenticeships would out-earn me for the first dozen years of our respective careers and would retire years earlier. I greatly enjoy my work (and do make more than $90k now). It's just that I don't have much concern for someone who has to buy crappy, overpriced, monopoly-sourced socks for their work. I've got loads of patients at the moment who would wait in line outside in February in New Hampshire to buy those socks if it meant they could get full-time work, especially with some benefits.

Life is full of all sorts of petty crap such as supervisors' wives sneaking around to write people up. Almost every nurse I know, for example, has quite literally been shit on at work. There's an obnoxious aspect to any job you can think of. Whingeing on about it just increases the indignation. It's useless, too.

Don't like your job? There's a support group for that. It's called everybody. We meet at the bar.

Yup. I love mine more than most people, but not every day. I'm sure Hugh Hefner and Peter North occasionally hate theirs.

Come to think of it, I'm meeting a colleague for a drink soon so he can complain about his job.

you doctors and lawyers and cops and painters and business owners just don't understand the true horrors of uniformed employment.

Socks are key

When your piggies are encased in leather from anywhere from 14-38 hrs a day

socks are key

and aint no 1 dollar foot booty gunna take care o the job

sock are key

Back to work uniform boy. Momma needs some new moto stuff.

I have a daily uniform, Mom Eeyore.   Mine even comes with its own noose.  (and can't be written off for taxes either).

Oh...and I spend quite a bit on socks.   Socks are key.

but apparently, you don't want to get them shipped to your place by FedEx??

I mostly work from home. so undees are pretty much my only requirement. No one wants to know that you work in the nude.

so you just need one tube sock at a time then.   must save wear and tear.

 [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [puke]

Some times 2 or 3 a day.

quit cuffin' your carrot into your sock bro... ;)

I did six months working at the Anchorage waste water plant installing new automated bar grates. ( don't ask what they are, you really really don't want to know  [puke] )

After that job I don't whine about work, no matter how bad it gets I KNOW it could be worse. ;)

Last I checked I have to wear the same thing as all the guys I work with. I believe this is what's know as ...a uniform.  :)

What else am I going to do while listening to stupid conference calls?

we all know about you cops

don't try and hide it

we know you get foot rubs by latin strippers every 4hrs

and firemen are worse, they don't even bother to hide the pole

we lowly ambulance drivers only have our contraband socks

life is rough

Now

let's talk about the real us vs. them issues

the real brick between labor and management

where to pooh

management gets a nice clean and well stocked shitter

we get the local shell station

bastards

you belong on the new 4g network commercial.  [laugh]

Good grief.  All this over some socks.

I have done concrete work on a hog farm, mowed lawns in the heat of summer, literally risked life and limb in in a sawmill.  All while making about 10 bucks an hour.  I've held a baby in my hands that was so malnourished he died the next day.  Nothing we could do about it. 

Give the socks a rest.  If the worst thing you have to pregnant dog about is someone's wife complaining about your socks, sucks to be you. 

Now I'll put on my Mr. Obvious hat.  Management screws up.  Union workers screw up.  Non-union workers screw up.  People in general screw up.  That the driver felt strongly enough about his socks to complain to a customer is unprofessional.  That the Manager had is wife checking up on his workers may also be unprofessional.  That the Fedex driver ran off without making certain that your wife got the package was unprofessional. 

Be responsible for your actions.  Take the lesson and when presented with a similar option, buy the "socks".  There are things we all dislike about our jobs.  I now have to by suits and have my shoes polished.  I also can't have facial hair.  I hate all of this about my job, but it provides a comfortable living for my family.  So I buy the "socks".  And I recognize that to not do so may hurt my career. 

 

easy mang

we moved on from socks to shaking hands with the mayor

suits you say?

do you get to pooh whenever you want?

easy solution...he should switch positions so the manager's wife isn't staring at his socks for half an hour over lunch break.   And buy her more jewelry.   Now she won't notice or tell.

If it were me, I'd get UPS logo "socks" tattooed on my ankles. Those should last.

+1. Or he can deliver packages like this:

http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/uncensored.shtml (http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/uncensored.shtml)

They won't complain about socks anymore.

I've heard a lotta bad things about UPS, but I gotta say, my UPS driver is really nice. He even remembered that I have a monster when I was waiting for him to deliver my brakes today.  [thumbsup]