Title: Steering Damper: side mount v. top mount Post by: BumbleB on August 17, 2009, 05:12:41 PM I have been checking the forum regarding steering dampers (thanks for the posts, especially Somegirl's review). I am narrowing down my decision, but am curious on any input regarding location. Would you recommend a side-mount unit or a top-mount damper?
Thanks for the input. Title: Re: Steering Damper: side mount v. top mount Post by: desmoworks on August 17, 2009, 05:50:51 PM I personally like top mount for the look, ease of adjustability on the fly and it is more protected in the event of a crash. They both work though!
Title: Re: Steering Damper: side mount v. top mount Post by: xcaptainxbloodx on August 17, 2009, 11:12:04 PM what about mounting under the lower brace?
Title: Re: Steering Damper: side mount v. top mount Post by: stopintime on August 18, 2009, 12:43:02 AM I've been told it works a lot better on the side.
It's more in direct/rigid contact with the parts it's damping. Top mount kits have some flex in the brackets(?) Also, the top mounts are shorter - maybe longer is better... Looks on the other hand [roll] Title: Re: Steering Damper: side mount v. top mount Post by: Norm on August 18, 2009, 05:23:09 AM Side mounts can damage the frame in a crash (FHE). I always use a transverse, under the triple design.
Title: Re: Steering Damper: side mount v. top mount Post by: ducducgooseme on August 18, 2009, 05:30:42 AM Having had a side mount come loose under normal driving, I will never mount one there again.
top mounts for me! Title: Re: Steering Damper: side mount v. top mount Post by: BumbleB on August 18, 2009, 05:44:36 AM Thanks for the input...this helps! I'm seriously considering the Bitubo top-mount.
Title: Re: Steering Damper: side mount v. top mount Post by: scduc on August 18, 2009, 04:15:16 PM One problem that I see, is that if you ever go to an after-market top triple, you are pretty much stuck with going side mount. I know I've seen the under "brace" style, wish someone would post I pic. That is what I will go with if I ever get one.
Title: Re: Steering Damper: side mount v. top mount Post by: xcaptainxbloodx on August 19, 2009, 02:22:35 AM I always use a transverse, under the triple design. what is your setup? Title: Re: Steering Damper: side mount v. top mount Post by: Norm on August 19, 2009, 04:10:21 AM I mount one end to the frame and the other to a clamp around the fork leg. You can weld or drill for a frame mount and then space it 'til it lines up with the leg mount. I can take some pics it that'll help.
Always make sure the adjustment is on the left side so can make changes on the fly. Title: Re: Steering Damper: side mount v. top mount Post by: DucatiTorrey on August 19, 2009, 05:38:06 AM One problem that I see, is that if you ever go to an after-market top triple, you are pretty much stuck with going side mount. I know I've seen the under "brace" style, wish someone would post I pic. That is what I will go with if I ever get one. +1 i'd like to see that Title: Re: Steering Damper: side mount v. top mount Post by: yotogi on August 19, 2009, 06:33:29 AM +1 Could someone with a mount that is not top or side post pics?
Title: Re: Steering Damper: side mount v. top mount Post by: stopintime on August 19, 2009, 06:39:16 AM It's only for pre 2001, but to give you an idea
http://www.motowheels.com/italian/myproducts.cfm?parentcategoryid=123%7CDucati%20Suspension&productID=5412&showDetail=1&categoryID=126 (http://www.motowheels.com/italian/myproducts.cfm?parentcategoryid=123%7CDucati%20Suspension&productID=5412&showDetail=1&categoryID=126)|Monster%20Suspension&vendoridtodisplay=0&filterFor=&collection=168%7CEuropean%20Motorcycle%20Parts Title: Re: Steering Damper: side mount v. top mount Post by: DucatiTorrey on August 19, 2009, 06:44:55 AM oooh wya down there. hmm.
i like the top idea most. kind of sucks if i ever get a new top triple though. maybe if i do the triple and the top mount at the same time? Title: Re: Steering Damper: side mount v. top mount Post by: Norm on August 19, 2009, 06:45:33 AM How do I post a pic?
Title: Re: Steering Damper: side mount v. top mount Post by: DucatiTorrey on August 19, 2009, 06:48:05 AM host it online with photobucket or flickr
then use the icon button up top to insert the url or (http://add URL here) Title: Re: Steering Damper: side mount v. top mount Post by: truckinduc on August 19, 2009, 05:38:45 PM hey norm, Im doing a very similar setup. The damper will be rearward of the bottom triple and the adjustment will be on the left. In my opinion its the best, Cleanest mounting place ofr it.
Title: Re: Steering Damper: side mount v. top mount Post by: somegirl on August 19, 2009, 11:58:35 PM How do I post a pic? http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=109.0 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=109.0) Title: Re: Steering Damper: side mount v. top mount Post by: Norm on August 20, 2009, 05:11:07 AM I know technology can be wonderful for those who can use it, but not me. I've used Photobucket before but now I can't seem to upload a pic (after spending much of yesterday just trying to log on).
I just took one crappy pic, but I'd like to post it as promised. Title: Re: Steering Damper: side mount v. top mount Post by: somegirl on August 20, 2009, 05:56:07 AM I know technology can be wonderful for those who can use it, but not me. I've used Photobucket before but now I can't seem to upload a pic (after spending much of yesterday just trying to log on). I just took one crappy pic, but I'd like to post it as promised. PM sent. Title: Re: Steering Damper: side mount v. top mount Post by: sfarchie on August 20, 2009, 02:12:34 PM Here's my setup for my 1100S. I love it! But I would recommend using something to protect your bike at the point of contact for the brackets. I took mine off recently and there were some scratches under it. Nothing big, buy if you're anal... And before anyone asks. No, it doesn't hit my knee.
(http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt346/archiesf/51709-damperinstall-2.jpg) (http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt346/archiesf/51709-damperinstall.jpg) Title: Re: Steering Damper: side mount v. top mount Post by: somegirl on August 21, 2009, 07:57:35 AM I know technology can be wonderful for those who can use it, but not me. I've used Photobucket before but now I can't seem to upload a pic (after spending much of yesterday just trying to log on). I just took one crappy pic, but I'd like to post it as promised. Here is Norm's picture: (http://paularickert.net/albums/userpics/gina_damper_mount.jpg) Title: Re: Steering Damper: side mount v. top mount Post by: BumbleB on August 21, 2009, 10:50:36 AM Thanks for posting the photos...nice.
Title: Re: Steering Damper: side mount v. top mount Post by: desmoworks on August 22, 2009, 08:03:38 PM One problem that I see, is that if you ever go to an after-market top triple, you are pretty much stuck with going side mount. I know I've seen the under "brace" style, wish someone would post I pic. That is what I will go with if I ever get one. If you go with an aftermarket triple or just riser that is higher all you need is two spacers and two longer bolts for the Bitubo setup to work. Several people are running this setup. Title: Re: Steering Damper: side mount v. top mount Post by: ungeheuer on August 23, 2009, 06:08:30 PM Here is Norm's picture: Perfect [thumbsup] This is exactly how I'd like to install a steering damper on my m1100..... wish I could figure out how to make up a bracket for the frame end... hint, hint... any ideas?(http://paularickert.net/albums/userpics/gina_damper_mount.jpg) If you go with an aftermarket triple ...........all you need is two spacers and two longer bolts for the Bitubo setup to work. Several people are running this setup. Um.... I'm running a speedymoto top-triple..... I dont follow you at all here...um.. :-\?Title: Re: Steering Damper: side mount v. top mount Post by: pitbull03 on August 23, 2009, 06:16:04 PM If you go with an aftermarket triple or just riser that is higher all you need is two spacers and two longer bolts for the Bitubo setup to work. Several people are running this setup. If you've seen a pic and can direct me to it, that would be great. Thanks Title: Re: Steering Damper: side mount v. top mount Post by: desmoworks on August 23, 2009, 06:46:06 PM Perfect [thumbsup] This is exactly how I'd like to install a steering damper on my m1100..... wish I could figure out how to make up a bracket for the frame end... hint, hint... any ideas? Um.... I'm running a speedymoto top-triple..... I dont follow you at all here...um.. :-\? Hopefully this is obvious, but it can only be done on a triple with risers... not a triple with clip-ons. The new risers add (x)mm. Making the distance between the damper mount and its mounting point where the ignition switch is the difference between the original height and (x). So if the original riser was 30mm and the new riser 45mm you'd need 15mm spacers and bolts that are 15mm longer than the original bolts in the mounting kit. This will bring the damper mount up the same distance as the riser and it will work properly again. Title: Re: Steering Damper: side mount v. top mount Post by: desmoworks on August 23, 2009, 06:47:07 PM If you've seen a pic and can direct me to it, that would be great. Thanks I don't have any images, but there is nothing to see besides two spacers under the U shape mount that goes around the ignition switch... the rest looks identical. Title: Re: Steering Damper: side mount v. top mount Post by: ungeheuer on August 24, 2009, 02:07:28 AM I wonder if the fork-clamped bitubo damper kit could be made to fit beneath the bottom triple clamp in the manner that Norm has fitted up his damper??
Title: Re: Steering Damper: side mount v. top mount Post by: Norm on August 24, 2009, 04:32:20 AM For the frame mount, you can use a horn mount or install a rivnut (McmastersCarr). On the fork side, use a rivnut or a fork clamp.
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