For some reason I have been fascinated in this case.
Anyway - ran a regular Google News search and came up with the local Athens, GA report of this dude's indictment last week [thumbsup]
http://www.onlineathens.com/stories/052408/news_20080524051.shtml
Good
that make the beast with two backser is getting what he deserves
Im glad he has been in jail this whole time. Snotty little brat daughters and a maniac father. That is total BS. Remember reading the initial story on the DML.
He could use the spoon. [bang]
T
Thank you for posting this.
A tragedy all around.
That said, I kind of hope they decide to bring charges on the daughters as well.
And +1 to the spoon.
Just to share some more of my fascination with this case, the local Georgia riders forum - Bloke's Sport Bikes - has an ongoing thread, and one of their newer members is the mother of the rider [thumbsup]
This is the crew that rode to BJ Mough's funeral and held an impromptu memorial service at the crime scene.
I'm linking the 6th page of their thread. The user BJs Mom is his mother [thumbsup]
http://www.blokessportbike.com/showthread.php?t=29310&page=6
Quote from: T-byrd on May 28, 2008, 07:05:45 AM
He could use the spoon. [bang]
T
+1, pass me the spoon so I can impliment stage 1
Finally a judgement went the right way.
spoon my ass.
he needs to be locked up with a bunch of Viagra'ed up gorillas who will pound his ass 29 hours a day for the rest of his life.
let him know how it feels to get hit from the back.
At least they're taking it seriously:
QuoteIn addition to murder, the grand jury charged Gear with aggravated assault and three counts of possession of a firearm during the commission of a crime.
There is a lesson here...get the plate number of the car and let them go...when you chase people down bad things happen, you wreck, get arrested, get shot.
Yeah, yeah, yeah...macho grunt...kill the make the beast with two backsers... Whatever, I carry a gun everyday and I am very prepared to physically defend myself; but the path of least resistance is always the right path. If this guy let the cops do their job, he wouldn't have gotten shot. NOT THAT SHOOTING HIM WAS RIGHT. But as a motorcyclist I think you have to have the mindset of what is the safest option. Chasing = not safe.
I know everyone is going to disagree with me here. Sorry.
Quote from: ducatizzzz on May 28, 2008, 09:02:45 AM
spoon my ass.
i never knew you were so open minded ;D.
Thanks for posting the update. It's good to see justice being served. Anyone remember the uber-conservative website that was praising the murderer as a hero? I'm sure that psycho is not commenting anymore now that the facts are out. Lots of sickos.
Quote from: raulduke on May 28, 2008, 01:15:36 PM
But as a motorcyclist I think you have to have the mindset of what is the safest option. Chasing = not safe.
I know everyone is going to disagree with me here. Sorry.
Following a couple girls who did something stupid, provided they're driving fairly normally, doesn't sound unsafe to me. It's hard to imagine (for most people) getting shot as a possible outcome of that scenario. I think I would have stopped after the sideswipe and just reported it, but who knows.
On the other hand, in road rage incidents in general it's best just to back off. The very best outcome of any such situation is just getting a chance to tell the other person they are, in your humble opinion, an idiot. There are, however, many worse outcomes as this case certainly shows.
Quote from: ODrides on May 28, 2008, 01:52:41 PM
Thanks for posting the update. It's good to see justice being served. Anyone remember the uber-conservative website that was praising the murderer as a hero? I'm sure that psycho is not commenting anymore now that the facts are out. Lots of sickos.
Tammy Bruce.
Quote from: raulduke on May 28, 2008, 01:15:36 PM
There is a lesson here...get the plate number of the car and let them go...when you chase people down bad things happen, you wreck, get arrested, get shot.
Yeah, yeah, yeah...macho grunt...kill the make the beast with two backsers... Whatever, I carry a gun everyday and I am very prepared to physically defend myself; but the path of least resistance is always the right path. If this guy let the cops do their job, he wouldn't have gotten shot. NOT THAT SHOOTING HIM WAS RIGHT. But as a motorcyclist I think you have to have the mindset of what is the safest option. Chasing = not safe.
I know everyone is going to disagree with me here. Sorry.
my testosterone will disagree with you, even yell at you but my brain knows you are dead right. i will forever try not to let emotion get involved. that's for the ladies.
A relative (thru marriage) lives in Bogart, and I asked her about it a month ago. LEts just say she didn't have any love for the Gear family. I guess he's been tool all his life. [roll]
Quote from: printman on May 28, 2008, 03:24:45 PM
A relative (thru marriage) lives in Bogart, and I asked her about it a month ago. LEts just say she didn't have any love for the Gear family. I guess he's been tool all his life. [roll]
OMG!!!!!
I have the same surname!
Please Oh PLEASE! I can't be related to this P.O.S!
>:( >:( >:( >:(
Quote from: DCXCV on May 28, 2008, 01:57:45 PM
Following a couple girls who did something stupid, provided they're driving fairly normally, doesn't sound unsafe to me. It's hard to imagine (for most people) getting shot as a possible outcome of that scenario. I think I would have stopped after the sideswipe and just reported it, but who knows.
On the other hand, in road rage incidents in general it's best just to back off. The very best outcome of any such situation is just getting a chance to tell the other person they are, in your humble opinion, an idiot. There are, however, many worse outcomes as this case certainly shows.
would you have followed them to get the plate number? maybe followed further until they stopped then call the police and have a report taken in person with all the evidence there?
even after knowing what happened to this kid, i'd still do the exact same thing and follow 'em until they stopped.
i wouldn't even have to talk to them. they've committed a hit and run. call it in and let the police and my insurance sort it out.
I blame the daughters more than the father ...no doubt they lied to him, and portrayed an image that some nut case biker was trying to harm his baby girls. Not to say that shooting the biker was excusable, because its not, ...it probably could have been avoided if they (the daughters) didn't do stupid to begin with and lie.
Quote from: Massinova on May 28, 2008, 05:03:39 PM
I blame the daughters more than the father ...no doubt they lied to him...
Which is why lying is a capital offense and murder is a misdemeanor....? Stupid a-hole dudes sometimes raise stupid a-hole daughters. (Isn't that a John Mayer song?) But clearly the "adult" here should have not let some gossipy teenagers get him so worked up that he was willing to SHOOT A MAN IN THE BACK!
I was just wondering about this. Thanks for the update! [beer]
Quote from: Massinova on May 28, 2008, 05:03:39 PM
I blame the daughters more than the father ...no doubt they lied to him, and portrayed an image that some nut case biker was trying to harm his baby girls. Not to say that shooting the biker was excusable, because its not, ...it probably could have been avoided if they (the daughters) didn't do stupid to begin with and lie.
Quote from: ODrides on May 28, 2008, 05:58:35 PM
Which is why lying is a capital offense and murder is a misdemeanor....? Stupid a-hole dudes sometimes raise stupid a-hole daughters. (Isn't that a John Mayer song?) But clearly the "adult" here should have not let some gossipy teenagers get him so worked up that he was willing to SHOOT A MAN IN THE BACK!
iirc, the father has a history of looking for reasons to discharge his weapon.
So, there hasn't been a hearing yet, if I understand correctly? I'm not very well versed in the legal system. They have picked the crimes they're charging him with and will hold trial to find a verdict?
I sure hope he doesn't get off on some self defense BS. Doesn't sound like he will stand a chance though, especially since he shot the guy IN THE BACK. I hope he gets all that he deserves.
Quote from: Evil_Ductator on May 28, 2008, 07:21:26 PM
So, there hasn't been a hearing yet, if I understand correctly? I'm not very well versed in the legal system. They have picked the crimes they're charging him with and will hold trial to find a verdict?
I sure hope he doesn't get off on some self defense BS. Doesn't sound like he will stand a chance though, especially since he shot the guy IN THE BACK. I hope he gets all that he deserves.
There has been an indictment and prelim hearing (for bail) and based on the charges no bail was allowed.
Indictment is the laying of charges by a grand jury based on a presentment of evidence, nothing can be excluded and no rebuttal of evidence either.
Quote from: raulduke on May 28, 2008, 01:15:36 PM
There is a lesson here...get the plate number of the car and let them go...when you chase people down bad things happen, you wreck, get arrested, get shot.
Yeah, yeah, yeah...macho grunt...kill the make the beast with two backsers... Whatever, I carry a gun everyday and I am very prepared to physically defend myself; but the path of least resistance is always the right path. If this guy let the cops do their job, he wouldn't have gotten shot. NOT THAT SHOOTING HIM WAS RIGHT. But as a motorcyclist I think you have to have the mindset of what is the safest option. Chasing = not safe.
I know everyone is going to disagree with me here. Sorry.
I dont disagree, but i wonder if you'd follow your own advice.
I'm sure you know how BJ(the rider who got shot) felt when that car side swiped him and the evil b*tches tried to run away. His adrenaline started pumpin and anger took over common sense. You even said yourself that you were "intimidating" towards the driver who caused your accident so he'd stay at the scene. Not trying to call you out, but what if that guy was carrying and like a stupid teenager, pulled it out and shot you in "self defense?"
Some people might react by intimidating the offending driver, and some people chase them down to give them a piece of their mind. We've all felt road rage, and can only imagine how BJ felt. Again Raulduke, not calling you out cause I know you displayed a ton of self control two days ago, but just pointing out that in the heat of the moment common sense is often thrown out the door.
reference your accident: http://ducatimonsterworldwide.org/index.php?topic=3162.0
Thanks for posting this!
I remember when this story was posted on TOB. Almost everyone had the same suspicions: motorcycle rams a truck?
I'm pleased he'll be doing hard time. In my perfect world, the daughters would also be charged and convicted.
Quote from: derby on May 28, 2008, 05:02:21 PM
would you have followed them to get the plate number? maybe followed further until they stopped then call the police and have a report taken in person with all the evidence there?
even after knowing what happened to this kid, i'd still do the exact same thing and follow 'em until they stopped.
i wouldn't even have to talk to them. they've committed a hit and run. call it in and let the police and my insurance sort it out.
Yeah, it's hard to say what you'd do from the outside. Well, easy to say but hard to know. I said I think I'd stop right away - certainly though I'd try to get the plate but once you have that you really do have all you need. I haven't been riding for very long - just over a year - and I think just getting hit would be enough to make me want to stop and chill for a bit.
These road rage cases, and really this is pretty much one, are just so insane anymore that your best bet is to back off. You never know who's just that little bit over the edge.
Quote from: roy-nexus-6 on May 28, 2008, 08:15:16 PM
Thanks for posting this!
I remember when this story was posted on TOB. Almost everyone had the same suspicions: motorcycle rams a truck?
I'm pleased he'll be doing hard time. In my perfect world, the daughters would also be charged and convicted.
BJ's mother said on BSB:
Quote
Right now, that isn't in the DA's priority. There is still time down the road we've been told, especially the driver Chelsea.
There's hope, but just not right now.
Quote from: Ducatista on May 28, 2008, 09:20:29 PM
BJ's mother said on BSB:
There's hope, but just not right now.
Good to know. I hope he goes up for a long time, and she does too.
Quote from: Mother on May 28, 2008, 07:05:04 AM
that make the beast with two backser is getting what he deserves
I like to think he's got more to come...
in a special place in hell...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=YssMT0qXYOw
No worries your not calling me out....I wanted to kill that kid...didn't ...but wanted to.
I did get in his face a bit when it seemed like he would flee the scene. Perhaps a mistake, admittedly. I however am 39 years old, 6ft and 220lbs...he is 17 and maybe 150lbs and did not appear to be armed. I was carrying a Walther PPS 9mm. I assumed I could safely convince him to stay.
You are correct though...that could have gone horribly horribly wrong. My bad.
Quote from: Evil_Ductator on May 28, 2008, 07:21:26 PM
So, there hasn't been a hearing yet, if I understand correctly? I'm not very well versed in the legal system. They have picked the crimes they're charging him with and will hold trial to find a verdict?
I sure hope he doesn't get off on some self defense BS. Doesn't sound like he will stand a chance though, especially since he shot the guy IN THE BACK. I hope he gets all that he deserves.
I am not a lawyer, but even though Georgia is looser on gun ownership, it does take gun crime very seriously.
The part about shooting at someone driving away hitting them in the back, will do it in for him. Even if he drove towards him, and he fired at him only to finish shooting him in the back as he passed, his reason for self defense went out the door. Unless they can prove he was trying to run someone else down and he fired to protect that person. BUT that isn't the case in this crime so, no he's make the beast with two backsed IMO.
Quote from: Super T.I.B on May 28, 2008, 04:43:01 PM
OMG!!!!!
I have the same surname!
Please Oh PLEASE! I can't be related to this P.O.S!
>:( >:( >:( >:(
Distant cousins maybe ? ;D
Quote from: someguy on May 28, 2008, 09:30:45 PM
Good to know. I hope he goes up for a long time, and she does too.
and who's to say that if this doesn't become a criminal case with the daughters, it could become a civil lawsuit. Which would probably be better, because the facts would already be surfaced in the criminal case, proving how the daughters reacted in such a poor manner, resulting in the death of "BJ"