Just had the procedure done friday around noon.
I was able to attend a work happy hour that same day at 6pm.
I hear a lot of guys are scared of the procedure, but don't be. It is quick an simple. One thing I would ask for is lidocaine creme before the procedure. Specific name is Lidocaine and Prolocaine Cream, 2.5%.
I think I sat longer in the waiting room then the procedure itself! Not to mention my co-pay was only 25$!!
Yes, I am 29 and had the procedure done and several factors led to this procedure. Won't post publicly, but would gladly talk over PM in strict confidence about it.
never ever get it done in the summer ;)
these things I know
honestly, hasnt effected my life at all.
then again, it is snowing outside ;D
Surprised you did that a such a young age.
I did it when I was like 26.
After my daughter was born.
Quote from: hbliam on December 19, 2009, 07:05:05 PM
Surprised you did that a such a young age.
As posted, other factors involed which I won't post publicly.
Never ever let them take your right. ;)
Quote from: kopfjäger on December 19, 2009, 07:52:51 PM
Never ever let them take your right. ;)
My decision bro, extensively discussed with Wife.
Good idea!
Your fur grows in so much softer afterwards, and that "pee on the couch " urge goes away. You will gain a little weight tho.
Claims based on neutering ny cat. YMMV. [evil]
Quote from: Bun-bun on December 19, 2009, 08:08:37 PM
Good idea!
Your fur grows in so much softer afterwards, and that "pee on the couch " urge goes away. You will gain a little weight tho.
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
Claims based on neutering ny cat. YMMV. [evil]
got mine done in my 20's too and havent thought twice about it.
I was mountain biking the next day! My girlfriend at the time was a wise ass and brought an e-collar from the vet into work with my "john's vasectomy collar" and put it on my desk.
I've had my second and we are seriously considering it (second kid, vasectomy). As long as the gun still fires, I don't care if it's blanks. [cheeky] Just can't decide if we want a third....
Quote from: ducpainter on December 20, 2009, 02:39:37 AM
cat got your tongue?
totally missed the bottom part of the post.
Not to mention, I can claim narcotics as a basis for missing jokes.
driving a manual car home afterward not advised.
Best decision I've ever made. It has probably saved me 1 million dollars in the long run.
Got mine done when I was 22. I'm sure they do it differently now, but the two injections they gave me just about made me puke it hurt so bad.
I would be disappointed if no one had to go through that anymore ;)
Anyone know the likely hood this procedure fails and doesn't take?
Do you go back and get tested once in a while to be sure?
Is it reversible? I've read yes, and I've read no. Which is it really?
After a month or so, and several 'cleanings', you submit a sample.
I was told it is possible to get it reversed but not 100% successful and I would think it involves some sort of lengthening to replace the cut out part.
Quote from: vwboomer on December 21, 2009, 06:45:54 AM
Got mine done when I was 22. I'm sure they do it differently now, but the two injections they gave me just about made me puke it hurt so bad.
I would be disappointed if no one had to go through that anymore ;)
My doctor gave me some lidocaine lotion as a script before the procedure. Supposed to put on an hour before and wrap your boys with saran wrap. I put on 1.5 hours before and then another hour before.
I didn't feel any of the needle injections, just the "liquid" going in to my sack and abdomen if that makes sense.
Quote from: Monsterlover on December 21, 2009, 02:53:37 PM
Anyone know the likely hood this procedure fails and doesn't take?
Do you go back and get tested once in a while to be sure?
Is it reversible? I've read yes, and I've read no. Which is it really?
I can answer all your questions, but depends on the doctor and the procedure they use. As many as you have seen, I am not shy posting my medical conditions, as if it helps one person, I have done a good service. Also, my Dad is a doctor and so is my brother, so probably know most then the average non-medical person.
1. Your first two questions are one in the same. Depending on the procedure and technique, that is all dependable. A co-worker had his done and he had to whack off 20 times to clear out the remaining swimming boys. My procedure doesn't warrant that. I have to take a "specimen" in two months for an analysis. Then another one a month after that. If all is clear, then mine took. Based on my procedure there is a 1 in 500 chance it "grew back" and a second procedure is needed. Not wise to have your partner stop birth control until you are at the point of where your sperm count is nil.
Follow doctors orders on follow up testing. I have heard some have not and wound up with another kid.
2. Reversible? check with your doctor on the procedure they use. Mine told me it is an 80% chance it is reversible. However, that is not covered by insurance and is very costly.
Bottom line.........if you get it done.......make sure you want it permanent. No reason to get it done unless you want it permanent.
I have good insurance and it cost me 25$ co-pay for consult and then only 25$ for the procedure. I got lucky with my insurance company.
PM if you want anymore info.
Quote from: vwboomer on December 21, 2009, 07:30:05 PM
After a month or so, and several 'cleanings', you submit a sample.
I was told it is possible to get it reversed but not 100% successful and I would think it involves some sort of lengthening to replace the cut out part.
Yeah, depends on the procedure used.
co-worker had to have 20 "cleanings"
then a test in 2 months.
He never went for his 3rd since his first was clean. Personally, that is dumb in my opinion. 3 months is the typical grow back period.
reversing is expensive and out of pocket. Insurance won't pay it.
Essential my procedure was cutting some "tube", installing some titanium clips and cauterizing. Two external dissolve able stitches.
It took 15 minutes.
I spent more time in the waiting room.
My doctor said he didn't believe "grow back" was a possibility with my vasectomy. When he made the cut he folded the tube over and away from the other end. He stitched it in this folded position so that there would be no chance of the two ends ever being next to each other.
My doctor said that in cases of unsuccessful vasectomies it is more probable the doctor doing the operation accidentally cut the one tube twice but in different places leaving the other tube functional. Also, the studies that mention "grow back" use this explanation to explain why the partner gets pregnant if they don't have any other reason. They don't actually go back and check the guys balls every time to see if anything has "grown back". More likely these cases should be attributed to another person the man doesn't know about sleeping with his woman.
I just had my consult and the doctor hooked me up with 5 of the bigdog Valium, 20 Hydrocodone, an antibiotic, and the numbing cream. I was assuming by the dosing that this was going to be a bad experience.
So, my question is, did you put the Lido cream all over the boys, or just on the back side? I think he told me, but at the time he was looking at'em and there was talk of injecting with some type of pneumatic device and I must have reverted to my happy place to wait for the encounter to be over. Now I just don't (or don't want to) remember.
At least I locked up an appt. for the Friday before the NFC/AFC playoffs and have already lined up weekend babysitting (with backups). Trust me, painful or pain free, I am gonna be high maintenance that weekend.
Quote from: Travman on December 23, 2009, 02:09:30 AM
My doctor said he didn't believe "grow back" was a possibility with my vasectomy. When he made the cut he folded the tube over and away from the other end. He stitched it in this folded position so that there would be no chance of the two ends ever being next to each other.
My doctor said that in cases of unsuccessful vasectomies it is more probable the doctor doing the operation accidentally cut the one tube twice but in different places leaving the other tube functional. Also, the studies that mention "grow back" use this explanation to explain why the partner gets pregnant if they don't have any other reason. They don't actually go back and check the guys balls every time to see if anything has "grown back". More likely these cases should be attributed to another person the man doesn't know about sleeping with his woman.
I think it depends on the procedure used and the grow back.
My Doctor said the procedure he uses has a 1 in 500 chance of grow back. That is pretty insignificant, but also important to get those two specimens done to make sure. I totally will before my wife stops on the BC.
Quote from: psycledelic on December 23, 2009, 04:13:04 AM
I just had my consult and the doctor hooked me up with 5 of the bigdog Valium, 20 Hydrocodone, an antibiotic, and the numbing cream. I was assuming by the dosing that this was going to be a bad experience.
So, my question is, did you put the Lido cream all over the boys, or just on the back side? I think he told me, but at the time he was looking at'em and there was talk of injecting with some type of pneumatic device and I must have reverted to my happy place to wait for the encounter to be over. Now I just don't (or don't want to) remember.
At least I locked up an appt. for the Friday before the NFC/AFC playoffs and have already lined up weekend babysitting (with backups). Trust me, painful or pain free, I am gonna be high maintenance that weekend.
5 Valiums or a 5mg one? Not sure why you would get 5 valiums. That seems pointless.
I got one 10mg to take before procedure to calm me down. Was told not to drive if I took it, but did anyway. Just makes you a bit loopy.
I got 30 vicodins.
The pain is not terribly bad at all. Just make sure to ice 20 minutes every hour the first few days.
i went to a work happy hour about 6 hours after my procedure.
As for the lidocaine creme........that shit rocks.
Not sure as your procedure and not sure if women are reading this, but if they are deal with my graphic detail.
My incision is about 2cm below the bottom middle of my wang (funniest thing.....when the nurse (female) came in to prep me, she takes your cock and tapes it to your abdomen. make the beast with two backsing hilarious. I laughed).
I put that make the beast with two backsing creme all over my ball sack. They say to do an hour before.
I did 2 hours before, then 1.5hr before, then 1 hour before.
Make sure once you put on.....cover it in saran wrap so it stays close to your skin.
I didn't feel any of the injections.
worst is the smelling of burning flesh with the cauterizer.
Quote from: cyrus buelton on December 23, 2009, 10:01:23 AM
I didn't feel any of the injections.
worst is the smelling of burning flesh with the cauterizer.
You lucky bastard! :)
actually I just had mine done monday. I'm surprised by you guys who were up and about the same day. Mountain biking? Christ, I can barely move without having pain in my abdomen. I can move OK, as long as I don't stand up too fast.
Quote from: cyrus buelton on December 23, 2009, 10:01:23 AM
5 Valiums or a 5mg one? Not sure why you would get 5 valiums. That seems pointless.
5 10mg Valiums. He told me to take one in the next couple of days to see how it would affect me. Wait a week and take another for the same reason. He said that if they made me stupid to let him know. If they didn't seem to do much, to use the third the night before, the fourth the morning of, and the fifth before I leave for the office. And not to drive under any circumstances. My wife is a pharmacist and she said it was overkill. Personally, overkill the hell out of me. I would just assume not remembering anything.
I got one 10mg to take before procedure to calm me down. Was told not to drive if I took it, but did anyway. Just makes you a bit loopy.
As for the lidocaine creme........that shit rocks.
My incision is about 2cm below the bottom middle of my wang (funniest thing.....when the nurse (female) came in to prep me, she takes your cock and tapes it to your abdomen. make the beast with two backsing hilarious. I laughed).
Glad I asked cause that isn't where I would have gone with it.
I put that make the beast with two backsing creme all over my ball sack. They say to do an hour before.
Even better.
I did 2 hours before, then 1.5hr before, then 1 hour before.
I am gonna put a lot of faith in you and follow this plan. My balls are in your hands man.
Make sure once you put on.....cover it in saran wrap so it stays close to your skin.
I didn't feel any of the injections.
worst is the smelling of burning flesh with the cauterizer.
OH GOD!
You guys helped talk me into buying a Ducati
You guys talked me into taking a hacksaw to that Ducati
Now you have talked me into taking 30mg of Valium, numbing my balls with lidocane 3 times in one hour, and wraping them in plastic wrap.
We sure have come a long way together. Final question, "Did you watch?"
B says you're all a bunch of wusses. ;D
He didn't have any of the painkiller shit before his procedure.
The doctor did comment on the awesome shave job i did, not one knick.
Quote from: Privateer on December 23, 2009, 11:56:11 AM
actually I just had mine done monday. I'm surprised by you guys who were up and about the same day. Mountain biking? Christ, I can barely move without having pain in my abdomen. I can move OK, as long as I don't stand up too fast.
I still have abodmen pain. no physical activity for me.
Quote from: psycledelic on December 23, 2009, 03:30:41 PM
You guys helped talk me into buying a Ducati
You guys talked me into taking a hacksaw to that Ducati
Now you have talked me into taking 30mg of Valium, numbing my balls with lidocane 3 times in one hour, and wraping them in plastic wrap.
We sure have come a long way together.
Final question, "Did you watch?"
Good lord about the valium. Interesting he gave it to you for post op; Most give for pre-op to calm you down. Not sure of the benefit of post-op as it is not a painkiller. I'd keep it for other anxiety issues.
Quote from: DesmoDiva on December 23, 2009, 03:53:04 PM
B says you're all a bunch of wusses. ;D
He didn't have any of the painkiller shit before his procedure.
The doctor did comment on the awesome shave job i did, not one knick.
I didn't have any "pain killers" before my procedure either.
Just used lidocaine creme. HUGE difference, but if you aren't educated in the medical world you wouldn't know the difference between lidocaine (local anesthetic, non-narcotic) verse a pain killer which is a narcotic.
I shaved on my own and needed no touch up.
Quote from: DesmoDiva on December 23, 2009, 03:53:04 PM
B says you're all a bunch of wusses. ;D
He didn't have any of the painkiller shit before his procedure.
He is trying to be a superior man.
You get 4 injections in your sack without exterior numbing you are straight lying to be tough.
I am 1 of 1o guys I know to get the lidodaine creme to numb before injections.
All other 9 said it was the worst pain in the world.
Sorry, dont but your husbands story.
I got injections in the base of my twig with no external anesthesia when I had a circumcision at 27. Not fun...
Quote from: NAKID on December 23, 2009, 06:58:30 PM
I got injections in the base of my twig with no external anesthesia when I had a circumcision at 27. Not fun...
Exactly. why I call BS on "no pain" from the female poster. Guys tend to say it doesn't hurt during procuder.
Fine after.
I never said B didn't have pain.
It just wasn't as bad as the pain from the hurniated discs (back) that he has endured.
I was just pointing out that the doctor did not offer any valium/lidocane cream for him to use before the procedure to take the edge off.
Quote from: NAKID on December 23, 2009, 06:58:30 PM
I got injections in the base of my twig with no external anesthesia when I had a circumcision at 27. Not fun...
Why in hell would you want to put yourself through that??
Quote from: DesmoDiva on December 23, 2009, 03:53:04 PM
B says you're all a bunch of wusses. ;D
He didn't have any of the painkiller shit before his procedure.
The doctor did comment on the awesome shave job i did, not one knick.
Well, I give B a big [bow_down]
When it comes to my boys, razors, needles, and scalpels, I will elevate myself from wussy to full blown pussy status. I have been married for 8 years and was engaged for 7 more years (while my wife was at UNC). I witnessed her give birth to our third child naturally after her epi. didn't take. For that, she gets [bow_down] [bow_down] [bow_down] [bow_down] [bow_down]! Ain't nuthin' I can do that will top her on toughness. So I am not even gonna try. I am gonna take my excessive amount of valium, shave my balls, numb the shit out of them, hand them to a stranger to cut'em, come home, take my pain killers, sit on some frozen pea's, not watch the Panthers in the NFC championship, and enjoy a somewhat uncomfortable weekend with my wife, my remote, and no kids!
Quote from: cyrus buelton on December 23, 2009, 06:21:47 PM
Good lord about the valium. Interesting he gave it to you for post op; Most give for pre-op to calm you down. Not sure of the benefit of post-op as it is not a painkiller. I'd keep it for other anxiety issues.
Just used lidocaine creme. HUGE difference, but if you aren't educated in the medical world you wouldn't know the difference between lidocaine (local anesthetic, non-narcotic) verse a pain killer which is a narcotic.
I shaved on my own and needed no touch up.
Yea, I doubt I need all of that valium. Nice to have just in case. I assume that was the purpose. The cream is gonna be the kicker I believe.
Quote from: NAKID on December 23, 2009, 06:58:30 PM
I got injections in the base of my twig with no external anesthesia when I had a circumcision at 27. Not fun...
WOW! I hope they are a little more considerate with a 27 year old then they were with my newborn son. That had to be painful.
Quote from: DesmoDiva on December 24, 2009, 02:49:20 AM
I never said B didn't have pain.
It just wasn't as bad as the pain from the hurniated discs (back) that he has endured.
I ruptured my L5 S1 disc about 6 years ago on my mtn. bike and lived with that for about two years before finally getting it removed and the vert fused together. I would have to speculate that B is correct. Shit with your spine is in a class all by itself. That was 2 years of my 20's that I would love to have back.
Valium is not a pain killer at all.
The only reason they give it to you is to calm you down as some get nervous before the procedure.
I take Valium when I fly.
Quote from: DesmoDiva on December 24, 2009, 02:49:20 AM
Why in hell would you want to put yourself through that??
Any number of reasons
Could have been cosmetic, but I am guessing it was due to constant infections.
Studies have shown (not related to Nakid) that uncirumcised males are much more likely to transmit aids as that "area" holds in bacteria (study done in Africa).
The main reason for circumcision is to prevent infection in the area.
I was given valium to take before the procedure but didn't since I was driving myself to and from (in a stick shift!).
I never want to do it again, but it was the best $80 I've spent so far.
People often ask me how I could make that decision to not want kids so young. Over the years I've whittled it down to one sentence.
I don't have to be anally raped to know I'm not gonna like it!
Quote from: Raux on December 20, 2009, 08:54:56 PM
driving a manual car home afterward not advised.
Had mine clipped in the 90's. Got the same "don't drive for a day or two" warning. It was snowing petty good so we took the truck ( cummins, 5spd manual), after the wife scared me and some dude in a Honda. Pull over I'm driving. Ached a little, not bad though.
The worst part was having the short and curlies shaved.
My dear brother went to his appointment on his Pantah, and anyone who's ever ridden one knows how comfy those seats are, anyhow, poor b@$tard had to ride home standing up.
Somehow methinks he didn't quite think it through.
Quote from: DesmoDiva on December 24, 2009, 02:49:20 AM
Why in hell would you want to put yourself through that??
The opening of the foreskin can start to narrow in some people, well, guess what happens when things get exciting? The skin actually starts to tear. Ouch....
Quote from: cyrus buelton on December 24, 2009, 05:34:05 AM
Any number of reasons
Could have been cosmetic, but I am guessing it was due to constant infections.
Nope, see above...
Quote from: cyrus buelton on December 24, 2009, 05:34:05 AM
Studies have shown (not related to Nakid) that uncirumcised males are much more likely to transmit aids as that "area" holds in bacteria (study done in Africa).
The main reason for circumcision is to prevent infection in the area.
Haven't seen that study, doesn't really make sense to me since AIDS is caused by a virus, not bacteria.
And nowadays, circumcision is done mainly for religious or cosmetic reasons.
Quote from: psycledelic on December 24, 2009, 03:25:46 AM
WOW! I hope they are a little more considerate with a 27 year old then they were with my newborn son. That had to be painful.
They don't give any anesthesia when they circumcise shortly after birth. The justification I have heard is that the child is not likely to remember the pain.
The reason for not driving after the procedure is due to the valium you can take.
No other reason at all.
Nakid - not sure sure of the study as virus vs bacteria. My guess main reason is using condoms.
Quote from: cyrus buelton on December 24, 2009, 05:17:09 AM
I take Valium when I fly.
[laugh] [laugh] I thought you were a tough guy. :-*
Procedures for this seem to vary by quite a bit. I recently went to a specialty clinic in town where that is all they do. The procedure is billed as needleless (it is), and scalpeless (they use scissors instead :P).
-No painkillers or anything beforehand
-One small injection through the skin and into each "vas" (the tube) prior to the procedure. No needle...painkiller is injected at high pressure through the skin. Felt like a light rubber band snap on the spot. Piece of cake.
-Tubes cut, carterized, and folded/stitched (I actually watched him do one of them..pretty neat. The "vas" looks like surgical tubing, and is bigger than I expected).
- No pain meds for after the procedure. Ibuprofen recommended if needed (I didn't).
- You can drive yourself home...but no activity that night. Nothing strenuous (or sex) for 7 days...no restrictions after 7 days. You can go to an office type job the next day.
Super easy. We were at the office for 1 hour. Procedure took 10 minutes. Cost - $940 without insurance (my insurance paid 2/3).
Mild pain that night, but nothing major. I had a beer and all was good. Slightly tender for about 3 days afterwards, but very minor. Felt normal after that.
1/2000 chance of failure later on (0.05%)
Submit a sample in 4-6 weeks to be sure it worked, and everything is "cleaned out". Samples are free, and will be done whenever requested forever.
I could have had my regular doctor do the procedure, but he recommended the specialty clinic. Vasectomies are like Lasik...pick a doctor that has done a TON of them for the best experience.
http://www.thevasectomyclinic.com/site/index.cfm (http://www.thevasectomyclinic.com/site/index.cfm)
i dont know about u guys but my sack is wrapped in cling wrap as i type this it also helps my cornenring when i ride.
Is your procedure today?
I've been considering one lately.
here in central florida you see this guys billboards all over the place
(http://vacations.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/vasectomy.jpg)
when I get one, he won't be doing it.
He must use the Casino Royale procedure.
mine was a few injections and no scaple.
all incisions were done by some cauterizing tool.
OK, i can't handle it anymore. I wasn't going to post up my bad story in the event it might scare someone else off. I went to a place with a strong referal. Was completely relaxed after hearing plenty of "no big deal" stories. As it turns out, local anesthsia doesn't do much for me. After several injections, I still felt the whole damn procedure. Nearly puked right on the table. Finally get the whole thing finished and my wife drives me home. I decided that I may actually want the pain killers and send her away immediately to pick them up. By the time she got back, I had self medicated with about 3 beers and 2 shots of rum. I didn't end up needing any of the pills by then...