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Title: which oil should i use?
Post by: KnightofNi on May 06, 2008, 10:22:13 AM
someone had to start it...


Title: Re: which oil should i use?
Post by: Kaveh on May 06, 2008, 11:00:57 AM
extra virgin olive oil.  It's italian, right?


Title: Re: which oil should i use?
Post by: ducpainter on May 06, 2008, 12:53:52 PM
extra virgin olive oil.  It's italian, right?
That works on my SIDI boots.   wt:


Title: Re: which oil should i use?
Post by: TCK! on May 06, 2008, 01:41:10 PM
I upgraded to some Motorex Full Synthetic when I did the 748's oil not to long ago.... Just the change in oil was a HUGE difference in power... It was running like a raped ape... I can't wait to try it again with some lower grade oil to see if I have the same dramatic improvement in performace from just an oil change.


Title: Re: which oil should i use?
Post by: printman on May 06, 2008, 03:35:19 PM
Dang did someone give George the link here, that was one of the best reads ever.


Title: Re: which oil should i use?
Post by: Vindingo on May 06, 2008, 06:24:59 PM
Mobile-1 10w30 car oil.  Clutch was a little slippy until the grease got dirty and its perfectly fine.  I spend like 5 hours last weekend at 9k rpms, i wonder when my bike will die


Title: Re: which oil should i use?
Post by: The Architect on May 06, 2008, 07:11:34 PM
Please don't make me read another 30 something pages about oil............ I'll do it, I'll read all the posts and all the pages......... 


Title: Re: which oil should i use?
Post by: jagstang on May 07, 2008, 07:04:44 AM
I thought we had all agreed to disagree about oil?  Square one, here we come...  ;)


Title: Re: which oil should i use?
Post by: KnightofNi on May 07, 2008, 07:28:42 AM
extra virgin olive oil.  It's italian, right?

synthetic or conventional?

I upgraded to some Motorex Full Synthetic when I did the 748's oil not to long ago.... Just the change in oil was a HUGE difference in power... It was running like a raped ape... I can't wait to try it again with some lower grade oil to see if I have the same dramatic improvement in performace from just an oil change.

i've never seen an apre that has been raped run. did you try the olive oil? how did that work?

I thought we had all agreed to disagree about oil?  Square one, here we come...  ;)

yeah, i just wanted to be a dick. wt:


Title: Re: which oil should i use?
Post by: DCXCV on May 07, 2008, 08:22:08 AM
synthetic or conventional?

Are you joking right now?  You can't run conventional olive oil in these high performance engines. ::) Synthetic olives only. 


Title: Re: which oil should i use?
Post by: mxwinky on May 07, 2008, 09:08:09 AM
Mineral spirits, or a high-grade 140wt gear oil should do the trick.  Anything in between, synthetic or otherwise, might lead to premature angina and sudden seizure of the horn button.  In fact we need to start a thread on high-performance titanium horn buttons with platformate and parrafin contact patch to help us achieve primo launch and testicular jiggle.  Oil?  Fill 'er up with sawdust and she'll be as quiet as a field mouse farting in the woods.  Yep, it's time for my medication.


Title: Re: which oil should i use?
Post by: LA on May 07, 2008, 12:28:29 PM
Amsoil 20/50 motorcycle oil.

Couldn't find it yesterday so went with the Purple stuff 10/40 motorcycle oil.

I figure any full syn that is "motorcycle oil" is probably OK - had additives for the tranny.

LA


Title: Re: which oil should i use?
Post by: Mr Earl on May 07, 2008, 02:22:53 PM
After 2 years of MX4T, now using Shell Rotella 5W40 Type III synthetic (oh no, it's not Type IV!!!) and the bike shifts way better (yeah, wet clutch M800) - less false neutrals, much more positive shifts. And the exhaust doesn't stink like with MX4T, plus is about 1/2 the price of MX4T at Wallyworld.  And one of the new Amsoil super-duper filters, painted black.

Here's Shell's forum:  http://www.shellusserver.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php (http://www.shellusserver.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php)


Title: Re: which oil should i use?
Post by: krolik on May 07, 2008, 06:59:45 PM
  And one of the new Amsoil super-duper filters, painted black.



What's the part number for that?


Title: Re: which oil should i use?
Post by: Mr Earl on May 07, 2008, 07:14:47 PM
What's the part number for that?

It's EaO138C - and the C must be for Chrome, not Monster-like at all.  Word is Amsoil will soon produce a black one.


Title: Re: which oil should i use?
Post by: zarn02 on May 08, 2008, 06:55:06 PM
can we port over the entire motor oil thread from the DML, or is that technically the property of VS now, and would be opening up this board to legal action?

'cause if the posts prior to their takeover aren't their property, and this board would be safe(ish) in leeching that thread, i'd volunteer to do the grunt work of copy-pasting the thread, and formatting it for easyish reading.

opinions?


Title: Re: which oil should i use?
Post by: Ddan on May 11, 2008, 05:16:56 AM
I don't see how they could own the content as it was never anyones to sell.  At least, I never knowingly turned over rights to what I posted.  Maybe the lawyers in residence could clarify.  It would be great to at least get the pertinent info back.


Title: Re: which oil should i use?
Post by: Kilgore Trout on May 11, 2008, 07:09:49 AM
Zarn02
 I think copying and cleaning out redundent posts would be a noble project.A big project and one that was discused on the George oil thread.
 There is so much to learn there.I hope George or a replace-a-George shows up on this board.

Kilgore 


Title: Re: which oil should i use?
Post by: S4ROB on May 11, 2008, 09:44:24 AM
Is there a good site on the web to buy motorcycle oil ?


Title: Re: which oil should i use?
Post by: Howie on May 11, 2008, 08:01:09 PM
I just sent George an Email asking him to join us here.


Title: Re: which oil should i use?
Post by: Ddan on May 12, 2008, 02:29:42 AM
I just sent George an Email asking him to join us here.
I sent him one a few days ago, but haven't seen him here yet.


Title: Re: which oil should i use?
Post by: Hollywood on May 12, 2008, 11:06:22 AM
This is my post from an oil thread else where.  ;)  It has been edited from that.

On Sunday October the 28th I did my first oil change... Ever! On my 07 S2R 800. (With help from Desmoquattro.) Thanks again DQ! [thumbsup]

I used Amsoil's fully synthetic MCF 10W-40 motorcycle oil and a K&N oil filter.

For those of you on the peninsula between San Francisco and San Jose.
I bought the oil at:
Burke Distributing
100 El Camino Real
San Carlos, CA. 94070

(650) 654-2040

They only sell Amsoil products.

I purchased the gallon which broke down to $9.05per quart before tax.

The first thing I noticed (and I think it has been said before in that thread). Was the big "Ka Chunk" sound/feeling when downshifting from 2nd to 1st. It is totally gone! Okay that is a bit of an exaggeration. It has been greatly reduced though.
Shifting up and down through all the other gears is smoother as well.

Based on that alone I am impressed with this product and would reccomend it.
Other reasons I would reccomend this and other Amsoil lubricants:
1. Amsoil is Made in the USA
2. from purely synthetic stock. It is a group IV synthetic base stock oil. No petroleum.
Both of these contribute to reducing our dependency to foreign oil. [thumbsup]

I plan on switching my cars oil, radiator fluid and eventually the trans fluid to Amsoil. That won't be for another 2,500 miles though.

I guess I should mention that I have no affiliation to Amsoil. I am just a fan. ;D  www.amsoil.com

If you haven't seen this, check out the study of motorcycle oils www.amsoil.com/lit/g2156.pdf
(It is supposed to be an independent study and was done in 2006.)
The best performers in the SAE 40 group are:                         The best performers in the SAE 50 group are:
1) Amsoil MCF (10W40)                                                         1) Amsoil MCV (20W50)
2) Motul 300V Sport (10W40)                                                 2) Mobil 1 V-Twin (20W50)
3) Mobil 1 MX4T (10W40)                                                      3) BMW (15W50)

As always, I hope this is helpfull.


Title: Re: which oil should i use?
Post by: Georgecls on May 12, 2008, 11:22:08 AM
George is here!!   I was out of town for a few days so missed e-mails..
Regarding moving our work from the previous site, obviously any of my posts are free to read by anyone, anywhere, the more the better..

But I am now a signed, sealed, registered member so off we go!  And thanks to those who alerted me to this new home..
George Morrison, STLE CLS


Title: Re: which oil should i use?
Post by: zarn02 on May 12, 2008, 11:24:42 AM
But I am now a signed, sealed, registered member so off we go!

huzzah!

my internet access is sketchy at the moment, but i'll be going home to see the folks here in a couple days, and will take a whack at moving over the oil thread.


Title: Re: which oil should i use?
Post by: Howie on May 12, 2008, 11:57:52 AM
Welcome, George ;D  I am quite sure in short time we will have a shorter, even better oil thread here.


Title: Re: which oil should i use?
Post by: Serenitynow on May 12, 2008, 11:59:28 AM
Shell Rotella T Synthetic 15w-40 from Wally World.


Title: Re: which oil should i use?
Post by: Mr Earl on May 12, 2008, 12:24:50 PM
Shell Rotella T Synthetic 15w-40 from Wally World.

Fixed it for ya!  And  [thumbsup] for Rotella Synthetic.


Title: Re: which oil should i use?
Post by: zarn02 on May 12, 2008, 09:53:47 PM
okay, i've saved the entirety of the DML oil thread to my computer, and tomorrow i'll begin formatting it and weeding obviously irrelevant material.

anybody have suggestions on the best way to post it here, so as to keep it mostly readable?


Title: Re: which oil should i use?
Post by: zarn02 on May 13, 2008, 03:16:49 PM
okay, i downloaded the thread from the DML at 40 posts per page, and have been working on formatting and sorting it.

i'm on page 4 of 20, so far.

the thread should be up in its (weeded) entirety sometime before i die of old age. :P


Title: Re: which oil should i use?
Post by: Ddan on May 13, 2008, 03:41:40 PM
okay, i downloaded the thread from the DML at 40 posts per page, and have been working on formatting and sorting it.

i'm on page 4 of 20, so far.

the thread should be up in its (weeded) entirety sometime before i die of old age. :P
If you want to email some of that out, I'll help you wade through it.


Title: Re: which oil should i use?
Post by: ducpainter on May 13, 2008, 05:30:35 PM
I'd prefer to see a new thread evolve.

We don't need to be accused of plagiarism even though it is our own material.

A lawsuit costs money even if you're not wrong.


Title: Re: which oil should i use?
Post by: oldjackbob on May 13, 2008, 05:56:20 PM
George is here!!...And thanks to those who alerted me to this new home..
George Morrison, STLE CLS

GREAT to see you here, George. Welcome!


Title: Re: which oil should i use?
Post by: Augustus on May 13, 2008, 06:47:38 PM
I'm confused, I've heard people say that their bikes like oil (whatever), how do they know?  My bike runs the same on all three oil brands and viscosities I've tried.  Do I have a dynamic bike?

All jokes aside, my bike likes Repsol 4T racing 10W 50 full synthetic or at least I think it does.


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