It's titanium and it's in my jaw and it hurts like a mother make the beast with two backser.
Most expensive mod ever and all pain and no shiny. What a pregnant dog >:(
Congrats [roll]
;D
I'm with you! My Ti mod is not visible to the naked eye...
Congrats (?)
did they use Grade 5 titanium?? ;D
I am jealous. When the orthopedic surgeon modded my knee all I got was surgical steel. And some scars.
Shouldn't this be in the "Accessories & Mods" section? ???
It'd be cooler if it were some sort of ferrous material. Then you could stick kitchen magnets to yourself as a party trick.
w/o pics it's a lie
is it big enought to set off metal detectors? That is what makes travel fun. I can just imagine the discusion with airport security.
Quote from: NAKID on April 14, 2010, 10:32:43 PM
I'm with you! My Ti mod is not visible to the naked eye...
unless something goes horribly awry
or someone goes apeshit and has a knife. ;)
ouch! hope ya feel better
Quote from: Major Slow on April 15, 2010, 05:17:07 AM
is it big enought to set off metal detectors? That is what makes travel fun. I can just imagine the discusion with airport security.
I have 5 titanium pins in the front part of my left shoulder due to a labrum tear.
I've never set off metal detectors with them.
It is just funny to see the x-rays of my shoulder because you can see the tops of the pins in a perfect line down my shoulder
however.....
nothing compares to what Nakid has in his leg.
Hope you start feeling better after the mod.
Are you having a dental implant put in?
If so, my wife just had the first part of that done about a month ago. They put in the "rod" where the tooth will go (wisdom teeth came in and killed a back molar at the root). I am guessing hers is titanium too? It has to set for like six weeks and then they put the tooth in.
Quote from: NAKID on April 14, 2010, 10:32:43 PM
I'm with you! My Ti mod is not visible to the naked eye...
we can change that. [evil] lol
congrats on ur Ti mod..though what the hell happened?
A total of 2 plates and 10 screws I believe.
Broken Jaw. I'm taking good care of her right now, she somehow manages to be the prettiest hurt girl I have ever seen
what happened?
Quote from: Mother on April 15, 2010, 06:27:31 AM
what happened?
+1
That sounds like a nasty injury.
I've heard broken jaws are incredibly painful and take a long time to heal as they wire your mouth shut for 6 wks.
however, maybe times have changed and it isn't that long anymore.
is it too early for jokes about jesus' sexual prowess?
Jokes are always welcome ;)
There was an incident involving a drunken neighbor's friend. That's about all I can say right now.
Thanks for the well wishes
if the neighbor needs to find himself perished
I know people
Lu, hope you start feeling better soon.
If you guys need anything, please let us know!
Hope you feel better soon Lu!
I had a temporary mod many years ago, several thousand dollars worth of hardware sticking out of my arm for 3+ months. I was so glad to be rid of it.
Thanks! I knew you guys would make me feel better with tales of your various mods!
Well, in short what happened is I got full on punched in the face by a guy ~3x my size in my front yard. His girlfriend was double parked in my driveway blocking any escape and when they exited my neighbors house to leave I went to tell her that that was not an ok thing to do. Her boyfriend jumped in and went off on me, yelling and insulting me. When he went to push me, Jesus intervened and they started fighting. He had Jesus on the floor and I was telling him that since his problem was with me, to just take it up with me. He seemed to calm down and was standing, staring at me. I told him then to never talk to me like that again and to get off my property. Then he just suddenly went in for a full wind up punch to the face. It was so sudden I barely had time to turn. Ripped up my ear and broke jaw, blood everywhere. His girlfriend and my neighbors helped him flee the scene before cops arrived.
That's all I can say since those are just the facts.
This happened last Friday and I wasn't able to get the surgery until yesterday. Won't be able to open my mouth enough to talk for a while so excpect lots of boarding from me!
Damn, that sucks. Good luck with the healing...and with finding that POS.
Here's to hoping he dies. >:(
Sorry to hear about that Lu. Glad it didn't end up worse.
Wow!! :o
Hope you feel better soon, Lu.
DesmoLu I hope the guy that did that to you has to castrate himself and then eat his own balls. Unbelievable! Hes an absolute waste of skin! [bang] [bang] [bang]
Best wishes and a speedy rocovery DesmoLu! [thumbsup]
This infuriates me. Let me know if you need anything.
Hope you're feeling better today, Lu. I'll be in town this weekend. If you're up to it, I'd like to come visit.
Quote from: DesmoLu on April 15, 2010, 07:17:23 AM
Thanks! I knew you guys would make me feel better with tales of your various mods!
Well, in short what happened is I got full on punched in the face by a guy ~3x my size in my front yard. His girlfriend was double parked in my driveway blocking any escape and when they exited my neighbors house to leave I went to tell her that that was not an ok thing to do. Her boyfriend jumped in and went off on me, yelling and insulting me. When he went to push me, Jesus intervened and they started fighting. He had Jesus on the floor and I was telling him that since his problem was with me, to just take it up with me. He seemed to calm down and was standing, staring at me. I told him then to never talk to me like that again and to get off my property. Then he just suddenly went in for a full wind up punch to the face. It was so sudden I barely had time to turn. Ripped up my ear and broke jaw, blood everywhere. His girlfriend and my neighbors helped him flee the scene before cops arrived.
That's all I can say since those are just the facts.
This happened last Friday and I wasn't able to get the surgery until yesterday. Won't be able to open my mouth enough to talk for a while so excpect lots of boarding from me!
Holy jumping catfish, Batman!
His momma must be so proud.
Someone needs to die.
Slowly.
Quote from: somegirl on April 15, 2010, 06:52:11 AM
Hope you feel better soon Lu!
I had a temporary mod many years ago, several thousand dollars worth of hardware sticking out of my arm for 3+ months. I was so glad to be rid of it.
Hoffman external fixator.
I had one of those.
Told people I was growing a Porsche.
As a fellow titanium robot person (shattered left clavicle from rugby) I say we hunt this mofo down and exact some serious vengence!! Lead pipe style.
Feel better!!
i say props to you for saving jesus' ass from what was apparently going to be a righteous beating.
he should be taking extra good care of you for not being able to properly defend his woman. [cheeky]
Wow.
That's all I got.
I hope the local prosecutor charges him with felony assault.
Apparently, I was the only one thinking "boobies". Here I was all set to congratulate Jesus.
Sorry about the news. Heal up.
Did y'all find out who he is?
Quote from: MrIncredible on April 15, 2010, 09:46:35 AM
Apparently, I was the only one thinking "boobies". Here I was all set to congratulate Jesus.
[laugh] Gotta love up-grades. :)
Titanium mods are cool too once the pain is gone. Ive got a bit in my knee. Nothing like what Lu is going through though.
Hmm when I started reading I was going to give Jesus some crap of one kind or another about crashing you again - but not so funny now.
I hope they catch that d-bag.. and perhaps give him a little of the Abner Louima.
I hope more you're feeling ok Lu - If you want, I've got a big IZ_ dog who loves hugs and to cuddle :) And As you've seen how big he is... he'll bite the shit out that guy too.
Thanks knight, because I don't already feel like shit about that.
I actually don't even have a mark on me. He sucker punched her, after that, all my attention was on her.
Things didn't quite happen like she remembers, I was already up and we had stopped fighting when she told him to deal with her.
Quote from: El Matador on April 15, 2010, 10:31:31 AM
Thanks knight, because I don't already feel like shit about that.
don't feel bad bro.
Nobody could have even expected that to happen.
no sense beating yourself up over it.
Take care of your girl first.
Press charges against the douche bag.
Then sue for her medical expenses, but I am sure if you have insurance........they will probably be all over that to begin with.
Sounds like it's time for an old fashion lynchin.
I am so sorry Lu, hope all heals well, best wishes for you.
Get the pitchforks spoons. >:(
sounds like felony assault with neighbors aiding & abetting criminal flight
see if the popo's will drag the neighbors in for an overnight....
might flush-out Prince Harming
I am sure you guys are working it any which way you can
good luck
best wishes on a speedy recovery.
sounds like it was an old fashioned argument turned into a fist fight.
count your lucky stars that you didn't have the argument with someone with a short fuse and a gun or else we might be reading about a much worse situation.
>:(
Sending bad wishes Mr. Douchebag's way.
Get well soon.
Thanks for all the well wishes and support! This has been a tough process, even though it's only the beginning, and you guys restore my faith in humanity!
I realize I've had a sheltered life in the sense that Ive never had to interact with these type of people before, never thought for a second that some huge guy would just randomly punch me in the face with such deliberence and composure.
This week the priority has been getting me into surgery and fixing me so unfortunately, we haven't been able to begin dealing with the legal stuff. It's hard knowing that this guy is out there feeling like he got away with it and that I have to look outside my window to see his friends that are lying to protect him.
Oh, and I don't have insurance. I'm self employed and very healthy so it is not cost effective. I have long term that kicks in when admitted to hospital at least overnight, but that doesn't help in these cases so ya, I will have to file a civil suit to recover those costs on top of the criminal case. Ugh!
Good luck with the lawsuit. Take LOTS of pictures. make sure to look depressed and sad in the pictures so the judge feels bad for you. :'(
It's sad how many screwed up people there are in the world. Lucky me got to grow up in an area full of nasty people.
wow... >:(
whatajerk! >:(
i hope you have a speedy recovery Lu :)
..that guy menace douche should be arrested or something
Quote from: DuCaTiNi on April 15, 2010, 03:53:44 PM
wow... >:(
whatajerk! >:(
i hope you have a speedy recovery Lu :)
..that guy menace douche should be arrested or something
Hey-Lu met Mel's boss!
Quote from: MrIncredible on April 15, 2010, 03:59:51 PM
Hey-Lu met Mel's boss!
no she hasn't... the "boss" (owner) is one who stares at the ground ;)
he's only a hard ass through his emails
Lu woulda made him cry ;D
>:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
If ya need anything...
I've got few cousins and a coupla uncles with interesting names I can call up.
pm me your address...?
[bacon]
My boxing coach says I have a good left hook. I would love to actually be able to punch someone.
Let me at him......
I had minor jaw surgery once and the recovery was the worst pain I have ever experienced. Do not eat solid food until the Docs say so.
I say we find out where he lives and amass a group of no less than 500 ducatisti and roll deep on this guy. Whats he gonna do when 500 dudes (and chicks?) roll up on bikes, carrying miscellaneous awkward heavy objects.
WOW! I sincerely hope that piece of shit spends a long time getting beat on in prison.
To a speedy, complete recovery [beer]
Quote from: El Matador on April 15, 2010, 10:31:31 AM
Thanks knight, because I don't already feel like shit about that.
I actually don't even have a mark on me. He sucker punched her, after that, all my attention was on her.
Things didn't quite happen like she remembers, I was already up and we had stopped fighting when she told him to deal with her.
it's just a joke. i have no doubt that if you could have taken that shot instead of her you would have. or if you could have stopped him before it connected you could have.
i'm jsut trying to make a funny :-\
No lawyer here, but I would imagine as the legal process goes on, the neighbors will be put under oath to testify in the case and they will out the guy because they have to
or
they will be pricks and plead the 5th.
But I agree.......they are totally accessories to the crime that occured.
Lu - that sucks about what that surgery is going to cost you guys. Hopefully douchebag has some money or wage garnishment to help recover some of your bills.
People suck.
Hang 'em high!
I bet some of the resident law dogs have some words of wisdom for Lu, and they have been spoken privately, since it is a touchy subject.
Though I jest a bit with the hang 'em high - I hope justice is visited upon them and you get compensated for all the pain, and hurt this jerkoff has caused.
*Big hug*
Sorry to hear that. To a quick recovery . I hope this MF'r gets what he deserves.
Oh and El Matador, I'm sure a much as you want to.....
.....Don't go looking for this guy, k? ;)
Quote from: El Matador on April 15, 2010, 10:31:31 AM
Thanks knight, because I don't already feel like shit about that.
I actually don't even have a mark on me. He sucker punched her, after that, all my attention was on her.
Things didn't quite happen like she remembers, I was already up and we had stopped fighting when she told him to deal with her.
guy punched your girl and you didn't throw him a beating?
Quote from: Mr. Van Sant on April 16, 2010, 06:43:06 AM
guy punched your girl and you didn't throw him a beating?
he was rightly concerned about his girlfriend instead of going into a blind rage.
Quote from: KnightofNi on April 16, 2010, 06:52:13 AM
he was rightly concerned about his girlfriend instead of going into a blind rage.
of course he was concerned about her and it's a shame she had to go through that, but personally if I saw some guy pull a snookie on my girl, I would throw him the beating of his life.
Make sure you take pictures ASAP. You should have them from just after th eincident ideally, and during various stages of recovery post surgery.
Don't discuss details online.
Get a lawyer pronto.
Get better.
Quote from: DesmoLu on April 15, 2010, 07:17:23 AM
Thanks! I knew you guys would make me feel better with tales of your various mods!
Well, in short what happened is I got full on punched in the face by a guy ~3x my size in my front yard. His girlfriend was double parked in my driveway blocking any escape and when they exited my neighbors house to leave I went to tell her that that was not an ok thing to do. Her boyfriend jumped in and went off on me, yelling and insulting me. When he went to push me, Jesus intervened and they started fighting. He had Jesus on the floor and I was telling him that since his problem was with me, to just take it up with me. He seemed to calm down and was standing, staring at me. I told him then to never talk to me like that again and to get off my property. Then he just suddenly went in for a full wind up punch to the face. It was so sudden I barely had time to turn. Ripped up my ear and broke jaw, blood everywhere. His girlfriend and my neighbors helped him flee the scene before cops arrived.
That's all I can say since those are just the facts.
This happened last Friday and I wasn't able to get the surgery until yesterday. Won't be able to open my mouth enough to talk for a while so excpect lots of boarding from me!
wow what a f***** scum bag..... DAMN
did they catch him??
hard thing is the system probably wont do anything to him
Quote from: Bacon Junkie on April 15, 2010, 04:18:23 PM
>:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
If ya need anything...
I've got few cousins and a coupla uncles with interesting names I can call up.
pm me your address...?
[bacon]
moe larry and curly?
Quote from: DesmoLu on April 15, 2010, 01:50:08 PM
never thought for a second that some huge guy would just randomly punch me in the face with such deliberence and composure.
/quote]
contact an attorney and the police and do the proper legal steps you can in this. the "macho" talk of everyone saying "lynch this or that" is just that, bogus, if you go to the mob mentality then well you are no better than the garbage that hit you.
the best lesson you learned from this is that anyone/espceially strangers can/will take violent actions and that the next time you have to be more aware of your surroundings and the people involved at all times.
as anyone here will tell you the fact that you are a female doesn't matter at all in a street fight, there is no "etiquette" when it comes to the actual street fighting.
The legal ramifications take place afterwards not during the actual street fight.
Again, well wishes that you have a safe and fast recovery from your injuries.
well this guy deserves jail time, how could he hit a woman like that? and THAT hard?
over a parking spot ?
Quote from: Mr. Van Sant on April 16, 2010, 08:35:01 AM
well this guy deserves jail time, how could he hit a woman like that? and THAT hard?
over a parking spot ?
See the problem here is you're trying to rationalize it... Just accept the fact he's a make the beast with two backsed up douche. IF he makes jail time, it tems to get whispered to the other inmates that he likes to hit girls... and they will then treat him like one.
so basically the guy beat the living sh.it out of matador and then he cracked his GF desmolu and then your own neighbors helped this guy escape? damn son damn.... you two should stay inside for a year.
Quote from: Mr. Van Sant on April 16, 2010, 07:04:36 AM
of course he was concerned about her and it's a shame she had to go through that, but personally if I saw some guy pull a snookie on my girl, I would throw him the beating of his life.
Yup, I'm sure that if your girl is on the floor screaming in pain you would leave her there and go take care of your pride.
Quote from: Mr. Van Sant on April 16, 2010, 08:35:01 AM
well this guy deserves jail time, how could he hit a woman like that? and THAT hard?
over a parking spot ?
He does.
Quote from: Mr. Van Sant on April 16, 2010, 08:43:01 AM
so basically the guy beat the living sh.it out of matador and then he cracked his GF desmolu and then your own neighbors helped this guy escape? damn son damn.... you two should stay inside for a year.
Read the thread again before making an ass out of yourself. I don't have a scratch on me.
Quote from: KnightofNi on April 16, 2010, 04:29:22 AM
it's just a joke. i have no doubt that if you could have taken that shot instead of her you would have. or if you could have stopped him before it connected you could have.
i'm jsut trying to make a funny :-\
I know man, I meant to put a smiley on the end. No worries.
ok i thought it said you too were fighting then your girl stepped in then that asshole hit her?
was he drunk? what color was his hair?
Quote from: Mr. Van Sant on April 16, 2010, 08:52:36 AM
ok i thought it said you too were fighting then your girl stepped in then that asshole hit her?
was he drunk? what was his race?
22 posts and you're going to become a racist?
You wanna reconsider?
Quote from: ducpainter on April 16, 2010, 08:55:07 AM
22 posts and you're going to become a racist?
You wanna reconsider?
I asked what the persons race was and that makes me a racist? really? and what does 22 posts have to do with my question? Its a terrible crime regardless of our message board shinnaningans.
fixed [beer]
Quote from: Mr. Van Sant on April 16, 2010, 09:01:20 AM
I asked what the persons race was and that makes me a racist? really? and what does 22 posts have to do with my question? Its a terrible crime regardless of our message board shinnaningans.
Only racists care about race when a horrific crime occurs.
Quote from: El Matador on April 16, 2010, 08:48:45 AM
Yup, I'm sure that if your girl is on the floor screaming in pain you would leave her there and go take care of your pride.
He does.
Read the thread again before making an ass out of yourself. I don't have a scratch on me.
I know man, I meant to put a smiley on the end. No worries.
explain to me the guy punched your lady in the face and your instincts didn't tell you to bite his face off? I don't know something sounds off with this story. Fellas if a guy basically almost killed your wife with a right hook, what would you do?
I think matador is leaving important parts out of the story
Quote from: Mr. Van Sant on April 16, 2010, 09:01:20 AM
I asked what the persons race was and that makes me a racist? really? and what does 22 posts have to do with my question?
Well, his race doesn't really matter.. so why ask? It's the asking about someones race, in correlation to a crime that's setting off the warning bells.
And the 22 posts comment is a nod that you don't have any history here, so no one knows your tone or you. So it's a lot easier for people to possibly misinterpret your intent without a history of context to place it in.
Quote from: ducpainter on April 16, 2010, 09:08:18 AM
Only racists care about race when a horrific crime occurs.
The first thing a cop asks the victim is what was the persons race/color, are all of law enforcement racists? what you are saying does not make sense, I fixed it anyway.
Quote from: Mr. Van Sant on April 16, 2010, 09:09:03 AM
explain to me the guy punched your lady in the face and your instincts didn't tell you to bite his face off? I don't know something sounds off with this story. Fellas if a guy basically almost killed your wife with a right hook, what would you do?
I think matador is leaving important parts out of the story
Maybe he is... perhaps for legal reasons. Have you ever met him?
I have. He cares about Lu tons, so calling into question his decisions regarding what he felt was best for her.. mmm not your place.
Maybe, just maybe - he thought about a bigger picture?
Are you a cop where they live? Are you going to find him and arrest him? No... you live some place else, just like me and you're not going to find the dude. So his race is irrelevant to this discussion
Quote from: yuu on April 16, 2010, 09:10:11 AM
Well, his race doesn't really matter.. so why ask? It's the asking about someones race, in correlation to a crime that's setting off the warning bells.
And the 22 posts comment is a nod that you don't have any history here, so no one knows your tone or you. So it's a lot easier for people to possibly misinterpret your intent without a history of context to place it in.
forget it , its in the past I am so not a racist for the record.
Quote from: Mr. Van Sant on April 16, 2010, 09:10:35 AM
The first thing a cop asks the victim is what was the persons race/color, are all of law enforcement racists? what you are saying does not make sense, I fixed it anyway.
So...
what do you ride?
I noticed you didn't bother to introduce yourself.
Quote from: yuu on April 16, 2010, 09:12:22 AM
Maybe he is... perhaps for legal reasons. Have you ever met him?
I have. He cares about Lu tons, so calling into question his decisions regarding what he felt was best for her.. mmm not your place.
Maybe, just maybe - he thought about a bigger picture?
yea I guess so but if I saw some guy blast my girls jaw open I wouldn't just pause and think, the system sucks anyway, most likely the guy will walk. a friend of mine was shot in the face 9 years ago in a robbery, the guy got 13 years, hes out already. the system is a joke. the beating he would have remembered thats for sure.
Quote from: ducpainter on April 16, 2010, 09:13:32 AM
So...
what do you ride?
I noticed you didn't bother to introduce yourself.
how do i post pictures? i clicked additional options and it does not give me the upload option
Quote from: Mr. Van Sant on April 16, 2010, 09:17:46 AM
how do i post pictures? i clicked additional options and it does not give me the upload option
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=109.0 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=109.0)
We don't host pictures on our server.
You should probably do it in the Introduce yourself section.
Quote from: Mr. Van Sant on April 16, 2010, 09:15:09 AM
yea I guess so but if I saw some guy blast my girls jaw open I wouldn't just pause and think, the system sucks anyway, most likely the guy will walk. a friend of mine was shot in the face 9 years ago in a robbery, the guy got 13 years, hes out already. the system is a joke. the beating he would have remembered thats for sure.
Most people who know me, would be pretty worried about me doing something stupid right now; so they know that when I dropped everything and tended to my girlfriend, it had to be serious.
As for what I'm going to do now, as much as the system sucks, we have to go through it.
It takes a special kind of stupid to post any kind of incriminating remarks on a public forum. Especially when legal proceedings are underway
got ya... well I hope this basterd gets whats coming to him. im sure he will.
Quote from: ducpainter on April 16, 2010, 09:08:18 AM
Only racists care about race when a horrific crime occurs.
Some races are more prone to violent crimes then others. Read the FBI Criminal Statistic Report or whatever it is called.
Statistics show that and it is not racist of me to say any of that. I'll stop there.
However, in the long and short of it, I hope Lu heals smoothly and everything works out on the legal end.
Quote from: cyrus buelton on April 16, 2010, 09:43:09 AM
Some races are more prone to violent crimes then others. Read the FBI Criminal Statistic Report or whatever it is called.
Statistics show that and it is not racist of me to say any of that. I'll stop there.
However, in the long and short of it, I hope Lu heals smoothly and everything works out on the legal end.
of course they do hence why I asked, it was a tad insulting for him to call me a racist on a public message board. I am so not a racist, im part cuban I have BLACK relatives on my mothers side. anyway yes hopefully they put this scum away but the system is wack and he'll probably get probation if that.
Quote from: Mr. Van Sant on April 16, 2010, 09:48:45 AM
of course they do hence why I asked, it was a tad insulting for him to call me a racist on a public message board. I am so not a racist, im part cuban I have BLACK relatives on my mothers side. anyway yes hopefully they put this scum away but the system is wack and he'll probably get probation if that.
I knew what you meant by asking, but somethings just don't float around here. I see you are new and all.
Keep it back on the topic [thumbsup]
I am not racist either or if I am, better tell my african-american friend I am meeting for beers after work that. Heck, I might even be in his wedding this summer.
People who are that aggresive are prone to having records. I'm pretty sure that this isn't his first offense. I just hope that this is his third strike.
And for the record and to diffuse this stupid racial argument, the dude was white.
Quote from: El Matador on April 16, 2010, 09:53:22 AM
People who are that aggresive are prone to having records. I'm pretty sure that this isn't his first offense. I just hope that this is his third strike.
I would agree with you there.
I am sure this is not the first time this douchebag has been arrested for domestic violence, assault, etc.
Doesn't the 3 strike rule only apply if you have Felony's? Probably varies by state.
Quote from: El Matador on April 16, 2010, 09:55:04 AM
And for the record and to diffuse this stupid racial argument, the dude was white.
I'm white.... so now I'm offended
not really.... I'm more clear than white
Quote from: bobspapa on April 16, 2010, 09:58:33 AM
I'm white.... so now I'm offended
not really.... I'm more clear than white
maybe you didn't read the avatar policy? or maybe you have more then 22 posts it does not apply?
It does apply to felonies, but this qualofoes as major assault with grevious bodily injury. I'm not sure how the DA wants to handle it, but it may be a felony
Quote from: El Matador on April 16, 2010, 09:53:22 AM
People who are that aggresive are prone to having records. I'm pretty sure that this isn't his first offense. I just hope that this is his third strike.
yep especially guys that hit women.
Quote from: Mr. Van Sant on April 16, 2010, 10:01:10 AM
maybe you didn't read the avatar policy? or maybe you have more then 22 posts it does not apply?
Maybe you should move on to another thread. Matador and Lu are good people and did not deserve this.
Quote from: Mr. Van Sant on April 16, 2010, 10:01:10 AM
maybe you didn't read the avatar policy? or maybe you have more then 22 posts it does not apply?
I'm the token special needs DMF member.... so not only do I get special parking, I get a pass on the avatar (that and everybody here knows I can't eat stuff made with the evil white flour)
Quote from: El Matador on April 16, 2010, 09:34:37 AM
Most people who know me, would be pretty worried about me doing something stupid right now; so they know that when I dropped everything and tended to my girlfriend, it had to be serious.
As for what I'm going to do now, as much as the system sucks, we have to go through it.
You said that a lot more eloquently and politely than I would have. Anyone trying to imply that Jesus or Lu did anything wrong here... well, that's just make the beast with two backsing bullshit.
institutionalized socio-economic repression, re-inforcement of a poverty sub-culture and resultant despair/desperation breed crime stats...
not racial characteristics
racism created/creates the conditions that create the statistics
Quote from: Mr. Van Sant on April 16, 2010, 10:02:13 AM
yep especially guys that hit women.
slight aside...this has always bothered me...
if someone is doing somethign that i am going to actually hit them for it doens't matter if they are male or female. they are getting dropped.
and something does not include shooting off at the mouth. it would need to be them coming after me to do harm.
as to the DB in question cracking Lu, (don't get me wrong here Lu and matador) what's the difference between his random act of violence if it's against a male or female. we assume that because she's not a male she is inherently less adept at defending herself. from what they have said so far the punch came out of nowhere so matador would have most likely been dropped by that same punch and be in a similar situation with the jaw and whatnot.
i don't feel he deserves any more or less punishment because he hit a female. he desreves what he gets just for being a douchebucket who cna't think well enough to keep from resorting to a base animalistic urge of "HULK SMASH!" when confronted with something he doens't like.
i also grew up with 3 sisters who taught me early on not to underestimate women.
yes they beat me up :-\
Quote from: swampduc on April 16, 2010, 10:08:08 AM
You said that a lot more eloquently and politely than I would have. Anyone trying to imply that Jesus or Lu did anything wrong here... well, that's just make the beast with two backsing bullshit.
I could not agree more!
El Matador & DesmoLu
I read this thread yesterday and I have not been able to stop thinking about.
it is just horrible.
Desmo- I am so sorry this happened to you. I wish you a speedy recovery
El M.- It sounds like you did
exactly the right thing; don't chase the douche, leave it to the Popo & help Lu any way can.
I can only imagine how you both must feel. This BS will pass.
Hopefully, the sub-human, POS that did this ends up spending a lot of quality time in a hard room with an angry, sexually-frustrated 2%-er.
As interesting as a discussion on racism is, when I said I wanted to diffuse the argument, I mean't to please shut the make the beast with two backs up about it. So pretty please, with sugar on top, take it outside.
Quote from: bobspapa on April 16, 2010, 10:05:48 AM
I'm the token special needs DMF member.... so not only do I get special parking, I get a pass on the avatar (that and everybody here knows I can't eat stuff made with the evil white flour)
I understand what your avatar is, but if the people in my office glance at my screen from far and see that they may think Im on some neo natzi board. I think out of respect for the members and the board rules it should be changed.
Quote from: El Matador on April 16, 2010, 10:16:03 AM
As interesting as a discussion on racism is, when I said I wanted to diffuse the argument, I mean't to please shut the make the beast with two backs up about it. So pretty please, with sugar on top, take it outside.
If I have to take care of it Chipo...
some people will no longer be here.
Does anyone not understand where I'm coming from?
Quote from: Ducaholic on April 16, 2010, 10:04:54 AM
Maybe you should move on to another thread. Matador and Lu are good people and did not deserve this.
excuse me? I have been defending them in this thread.
Quote from: El Matador on April 16, 2010, 10:01:58 AM
It does apply to felonies, but this qualofoes as major assault with grevious bodily injury. I'm not sure how the DA wants to handle it, but it may be a felony
I think based on her injury you are probably right on felony assault.
I talked to my bro about it and he was a former prosecutor in IL and he would have charged felony assault due to pretty much what you are saying about the bodily injury.
Actually, I believe the police officer reccomends the charge and then it is reviewed by the Assistant State's Attorney who is assigned to the case in that court system. That is how it worked where my bro worked, not sure about your state or county law.
Re Knight - I agree with you. I don't believe the court system (at least it should not) prosecute differently based on sex of the individual involved. The law applies equally to all. If not, then that is racist.
Quote from: Mr. Van Sant on April 16, 2010, 10:18:03 AM
I understand what your avatar is, but if the people in my office glance at my screen from far and see that they may think Im on some neo natzi board. I think out of respect for the members and the board rules it should be changed.
You are a couple of posts from being invited to troll elsewhere.
Quote from: KnightofNi on April 16, 2010, 10:13:10 AM
slight aside...this has always bothered me...
if someone is doing somethign that i am going to actually hit them for it doens't matter if they are male or female. they are getting dropped.
and something does not include shooting off at the mouth. it would need to be them coming after me to do harm.
as to the DB in question cracking Lu, (don't get me wrong here Lu and matador) what's the difference between his random act of violence if it's against a male or female. we assume that because she's not a male she is inherently less adept at defending herself. from what they have said so far the punch came out of nowhere so matador would have most likely been dropped by that same punch and be in a similar situation with the jaw and whatnot.
i don't feel he deserves any more or less punishment because he hit a female. he desreves what he gets just for being a douchebucket who cna't think well enough to keep from resorting to a base animalistic urge of "HULK SMASH!" when confronted with something he doens't like.
i also grew up with 3 sisters who taught me early on not to underestimate women.
yes they beat me up :-\
of course it matters, a MAN punched a girl in the face and busted her jaw.
Quote from: ducpainter on April 16, 2010, 10:20:08 AM
You are a couple of posts from being invited to troll elsewhere.
whos trolling besides your mother?
Beck
Quote from: Mr. Van Sant on April 16, 2010, 10:21:08 AM
of course it matters, a MAN punched a girl in the face and busted her jaw.
and if the man punched another man in the face and busted his jaw it would somehow be better?
Quote from: cyrus buelton on April 16, 2010, 10:19:52 AM
I think based on her injury you are probably right on felony assault.
I talked to my bro about it and he was a former prosecutor in IL and he would have charged felony assault due to pretty much what you are saying about the bodily injury.
Actually, I believe the police officer reccomends the charge and then it is reviewed by the Assistant State's Attorney who is assigned to the case in that court system. That is how it worked where my bro worked, not sure about your state or county law.
Re Knight - I agree with you. I don't believe the court system (at least it should not) prosecute differently based on sex of the individual involved. The law applies equally to all. If not, then that is racist sexist.
fyp ;)
Mr Van Sant aka Chris, needs to hit Jud up on how post up under an alias... as of right now, his kung fu is weak. [laugh]
Quote from: Mr. Van Sant on April 16, 2010, 10:18:03 AM
I understand what your avatar is, but if the people in my office glance at my screen from far and see that they may think Im on some neo natzi board. I think out of respect for the members and the board rules it should be changed.
CCEATME? Quit trolling. Nobody likes you.
Quote from: bobspapa on April 16, 2010, 10:26:04 AM
Mr Van Sant aka Chris, needs to hit Jud up on how post up under an alias... as of right now, his kung fu is weak. [laugh]
dammit. i got baited into responding to him.
this whole having to work thing is making me miss obvious things.
Quote from: KnightofNi on April 16, 2010, 10:24:11 AM
fyp ;)
FYP?
Five Year Plan?
Quote from: bobspapa on April 16, 2010, 10:26:04 AM
Mr Van Sant aka Chris, needs to hit Jud up on how post up under an alias... as of right now, his kung fu is weak. [laugh]
I now play nice in the sandbox. I think I am past my days of having to put in all the effort to allude the authorities on coming up with different aliases, spoofing IP Addresses, etc.
Back on topic, Jesus I can make a trip to Austin if y'all need anything.
Quote from: Mr. Van Sant on April 16, 2010, 10:22:25 AM
whos trolling besides your mother?
Beck
Figured it was TNGB. What, nothing better to do in NYC?!! Seriously?
Quote from: cyrus buelton on April 16, 2010, 10:33:15 AM
FYP?
Five Year Plan?
Fixed Your Post.
Check his quote for corrections, usually
struck words.
Quote from: Ducaholic on April 16, 2010, 10:33:43 AM
Back on topic, Jesus I can make a trip to Austin if y'all need anything.
Thanks man, we appreciate it. We're in houston right now taking care of her. In a week or so she'll be going to finish recovering in NM with her family while I take care of everything else.
Quote from: swampduc on April 16, 2010, 10:34:09 AM
Figured it was TNGB. What, nothing better to do in NYC?!! Seriously?
Yeah, It was fishy from the start. That's the same guy that wished for Lu and I to crash into a wall at 70mph. [roll]
Quote from: KnightofNi on April 16, 2010, 10:24:11 AM
and if the man punched another man in the face and busted his jaw it would somehow be better?
fyp ;)
actually, yes, because that man would have been 1) expecting the possibility of another man punching him and 2) would have been able to defend himself. We can make all the bullshit arguments we want about men and women being the same but at the end of the day, we are NOT. Me, a woman, I am full of estrogen, I am genetically prepisitioned to carry fat and not muscle, so I can have babies, carry on the success of the entire human race, nurture, I carry fat in my boobs and my hips and not muscle in my arms. I am 5'3" and 130lbs, healthy and just what I am supposed to me. I got the the gym and lift weights like crazy so that I can be more capable than I was genetically predisposed to be - lift my bike, carry heavy things, etc. I am a hell of a lot stronger and harder than that vast majority of women. Still, I am in no way able to defend myself against a man, genetically predisposed to have muscle in his upper body, that is twice my size and has the testosterone induced adrenaline to exert force beyond his normal body mass means that I could never have even with steroids and other artificial enhancements.
your question rings exactly as though you had asked:
"would it have been different if he'd hit a man or a child?....or an old and frail person....or a cripple....or a sick person?"
would it?
people like you are the people in the system that I am afraid of dealing with. the people that I know are going to do their best to stop anyone from making this right because they don't see the inherent wrong or understand why a woman who grew up surrounded by good people would never ever think to defend herself from such a thing because the only men I've ever known, even in the midst of fighting violently with other men, would never ever dare hit a woman.
I really think everything that needs to be said about this has already been said.
It's done.