bp is gonna be a gp.
Congrats old man. ;)
Quote from: bobspapa on July 07, 2010, 07:30:58 PM
bp is gonna be a gp.
General Practitioner?
Gold Prius?
Grated Parmesan?
Goose Pecker?
I do not speak this abbreviation nonsense.
congrats Joel! [beer]
Grand Pooba?
GP=Grand Prix Racer. BP made it big. ;D
Congrats!
My daughter made me one last Oct.
MotoGPBP!!! congrats
Quote from: bobspapa on July 07, 2010, 07:30:58 PM
bp is gonna be a gp.
[clap] [clap] [clap] :D
[bacon]
Congrats, remember loud toys and other forms of payback. [thumbsup]
[clap] congratulations bp the gp :)
to whom do we send our wishes, your daughter or your son?
GP = Good Pooper!
now you and the grand kid(s) can see who soils the diapers more and faster...you or them!?!?!?....congrats old man!
GP = FBSS (free baby sitting service)
CONGRATS [beer]
[beer]
Do I come across as a bad guy if I say I'm not pleased as punch about it?
I have always been one of those "learn by your mistakes" kind of guys. I did lots of learn'n back when I was young. I didn't take advice from others and have paid the price for it.... with interest.
I must have given the "don't do what I did/do" advice to the kids 11tyb times. I even used flashcards.
My son listened and took to path I was to stupid to take.
My daughter.... not so much.
She's 20.... unemployed..... she got herself into a lease on house.... her longtime boyfriend left..... and the baby's father is....... some guy she knew who drinks, parties, and just moved out of state.
It's not how I had hoped to start my Pa Pa career.
I don't say that as a selfish thing.... I say that after being raised by a single parent and having been a single parent myself. It's not the life I want to see my child and grand child have to live.
Quote from: bobspapa on July 08, 2010, 05:17:40 AM
Do I come across as a bad guy if I say I'm not pleased as punch about it?
I have always been one of those "learn by your mistakes" kind of guys. I did lots of learn'n back when I was young. I didn't take advice from others and have paid the price for it.... with interest.
I must have given the "don't do what I did/do" advice to the kids 11tyb times. I even used flashcards.
My son listened and took to path I was to stupid to take.
My daughter.... not so much.
She's 20.... unemployed..... she got herself into a lease on house.... her longtime boyfriend left..... and the baby's father is....... some guy she knew who drinks, parties, and just moved out of state.
It's not how I had hoped to start my Pa Pa career.
I don't say that as a selfish thing.... I say that after being raised by a single parent and having been a single parent myself. It's not the life I want to see my child and grand child have to live.
I understand your feelings...having been raised by a single parent ( my Mom ) and the way she had tackled the whole debate about what not to do was this...
she sat me down in my early teens and told me "I know, no matter what I say, you are going to do what ever the hell you are going to do anyway, so here are the 2 ground rules. No stray kids and no stray diseases!" and then proceeded to hand me a wicker basket full of condoms....it was a pretty direct and to the point thing that I retained and stuck to.
I am not a parent of my own offspring but I am about to move in with dolci and her 11yo munchkin daughter and take on some of that role for sure...I dread the conversation, but I'll do it.
Quote from: bobspapa on July 08, 2010, 05:17:40 AM
Do I come across as a bad guy if I say I'm not pleased as punch about it?
I have always been one of those "learn by your mistakes" kind of guys. I did lots of learn'n back when I was young. I didn't take advice from others and have paid the price for it.... with interest.
I must have given the "don't do what I did/do" advice to the kids 11tyb times. I even used flashcards.
My son listened and took to path I was to stupid to take.
My daughter.... not so much.
She's 20.... unemployed..... she got herself into a lease on house.... her longtime boyfriend left..... and the baby's father is....... some guy she knew who drinks, parties, and just moved out of state.
It's not how I had hoped to start my Pa Pa career.
I don't say that as a selfish thing.... I say that after being raised by a single parent and having been a single parent myself. It's not the life I want to see my child and grand child have to live.
You are not a bad guy at all.
I am surprised you are as calm as you are coming across given the situation, but not sure how you are feeling/acting in real life.
My wife's youngest sister did the same thing. The Dad is sort of around, but a loser. But the sis has moved herself in the right direction and is attending nursing school, using grants from the state for housing, etc.
she is trying to make the best life possible for her son and if your daughter dedicates her life to bettering herself while also taking the best care of her child, things should work out better than if not.
Congrats BP. Screw the baggage shit. It's only a sidebar in this miracle.
Quote from: bobspapa on July 08, 2010, 05:17:40 AM
Do I come across as a bad guy if I say I'm not pleased as punch about it?
Nope, not at all.
I bet you'll enjoy being a gp though, even if it isn't your ideal situation. :)
Good luck to you and your daughter. Hopefully the past drama is minimized or gone by now.
Quote from: bobspapa on July 08, 2010, 05:17:40 AM
Do I come across as a bad guy if I say I'm not pleased as punch about it?
Joel
No you do not come across poorly, it is hardly an ideal situation and you see it with a clarity that only comes with age and experience....2 things a know-it-all 20-something daughter lacks. I had a similar reaction to mine a year and a half ago when she told me the news
Offspring will do what they will do...their path to walk not ours and the stubborn ones will thumb their noses at us if we attempt to map a suggested road for them....
(my daughter with my grandchild comes to mind...Harvard and MIT got her SATs before we even saw the scores and
approached her to enroll....she rejected them outright and went to some Mudlands Community Granola Commune College...proving that intelligence and common sense are not joined at the hip) >:(
The job (like it or not) will be to show up for the grandchild and be the safety net and rational alternative to your daughter's skewed world view
because it sounds like he/she is going to need that kind of support system
and you will tap into the place in your heart and find the ways and means to do it
even though you may not, at the moment, like how your prospects look for the future
be optimistic things always change...sometimes for the better...
it is where I find myself...and my grandson is the spitting image of his father [roll]
you don't come across as a bad guy at all joel... quite the opposite imo :)
no matter what the situation is, i just know you are going to make an awesome pa pa.
life doesn't go backwards only forward, and she needs your love and support...
you've got mine.
He's just upset because he'll have to share the minibike.
Quote from: MrIncredible on July 08, 2010, 07:12:01 AM
He's just upset because he'll have to share the minibike.
it got a new carb.
it's more faster ;D
you don't come across as a bad guy at all. As parents (or even as adults) most of us can look back and see the mistakes that we have made and attempt to relay the information to our children. THEY WILL DO WHAT THEY WANT ANYWAY.
At this point, all you can do is love and support and be there for her when/if the walls come crashing down.
My marriage was a disaster, but I did get an amazing little girl out of it.
And even if you aren't happy about it - Congratulations.
Quote from: dolci on July 08, 2010, 07:46:50 AM
but I did get an amazing little girl out of it.
I'd say more like AWESOME....but maybe I am biased...
You're the same douche you were before knowing you were gonna be gramps.
Quote from: duccarlos on July 08, 2010, 07:51:04 AM
You're the same douche you were before knowing you were gonna be gramps.
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
Like I told my 13yr old step son.. the day your ready to grow up and have sex/make babies is the day you leave the house and live on your own.. when my 2 1/2 month old duaghter is old engh to understand, shell get the same deal..
Congrats man..
Wow, I was going to kid around, but what I wrote was waaay too harsh, even as a joke.
Joel, You love your kids unconditionally. You'll feel the same about your GB, no matter the circumstances.
Quote from: bobspapa on July 08, 2010, 05:17:40 AM
Do I come across as a bad guy if I say I'm not pleased as punch about it?
No. I wouldn't be either with what you describe. The grand chilld is even more blessed that you are around.
Quote from: bobspapa on July 08, 2010, 05:17:40 AM
Do I come across as a bad guy if I say I'm not pleased as punch about it?
<snip>
No...but...
this isn't about you. It's about your grandchild.
Don't let
your dreams get in his/her way.
[and Dave is so right about the mini bike [laugh]]
see..... that's just it...... as a kid, I had very few dreams and aspirations. My daughter is the same, only with a touch of "sponge" thrown in. I love her the same as I love my son, and I'll love the baby same as if it were born into idyllic conditions, I just wish she had picked a slightly less rocky path. (for her sake...not for mine)
Joel..a parent's expectations are the unhatched eggs of disappointment
got to let go of that ...she ain't following the script
just love her like she's doing everything right
life is just too goddam short
+1 ^^^
You and lm will be great grand parents. [thumbsup]
Congrats!!!!
Just do what you can to help out, you can't steer someone else's car while keeping your own on the road. She'll figure things out to some degree, 'cause now she has to for the sake of her kid. Hopefully this will be a good thing long term and straighten her out.
sorry to hear that joel...
i'm confident that with you as an influence in the new child's life, they will turn out excellent.
name change time??
*insert newborn name here*'sgrandpapa...?
Speaking of which, can we name the kid?
Quote from: bobspapa on July 08, 2010, 11:20:02 AM
see..... that's just it...... as a kid, I had very few dreams and aspirations. My daughter is the same, only with a touch of "sponge" thrown in. I love her the same as I love my son, and I'll love the baby same as if it were born into idyllic conditions, I just wish she had picked a slightly less rocky path. (for her sake...not for mine)
Quote from: RAT900 on July 08, 2010, 12:11:49 PM
Joel..a parent's expectations are the unhatched eggs of disappointment
got to let go of that ...she ain't following the script
just love her like she's doing everything right
life is just too goddam short
yeah...
I hear you.
It didn't happen that way. I can only imagine the disappointment I've been to my dad.
Bag up and be pepe. ;D
Everything else is unimportant.
Congrats!
[beer]
joel, you're no more a bad guy than I was when I found out wife and I were having a third (unexpected) child.
I have the same advice for you as you gave me:
Quote from: bobspapa on February 06, 2009, 05:30:32 PM
love it