Title: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: tufty on August 05, 2010, 08:00:05 AM What ever else it may be, the new zx-10 certainly doesn't have a conventional inline 4 under the hood. Cross-plane crank or even maybe a v-4.... ;D
Have a listen and you decide. http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news-videos/tom-sykes-tests-2011-kawasaki-zx-10r/13258.html (http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news-videos/tom-sykes-tests-2011-kawasaki-zx-10r/13258.html) Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: Jester on August 05, 2010, 09:28:17 AM Sounds sexy. [thumbsup]
Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: fastwin on August 05, 2010, 09:42:57 AM I read about it recently in the August 2010 issue of Cycle World in the Round Up section. It's not a V-4. It's an inline four "big bang" motor "with a 540 degree, no-fire zone in it's 720 degree cycle". It's different from Yammyhammer's cross plane motor. The weird firing order should provide the same sort of drivabilty/traction gains that the R1 has.
Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: triangleforge on August 05, 2010, 02:06:31 PM I read about it recently in the August 2010 issue of Cycle World in the Round Up section. It's not a V-4. It's an inline four "big bang" motor "with a 540 degree, no-fire zone in it's 720 degree cycle". It's different from Yammyhammer's cross plane motor. The weird firing order should provide the same sort of drivabilty/traction gains that the R1 has. And apparently an internal electric motor that maintains crank momentum at idle & lower RPMs (instead of a heavy crank or flywheel) since there's such a long pause between firings. :o Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: kopfjäger on August 05, 2010, 03:20:36 PM Kawasaki ZX-10R 2011 test - Nieuwsmotor.nl (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cG9IxEtcekw#normal)
Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: superjohn on August 06, 2010, 09:05:15 AM I read about it recently in the August 2010 issue of Cycle World in the Round Up section. It's not a V-4. It's an inline four "big bang" motor "with a 540 degree, no-fire zone in it's 720 degree cycle". It's different from Yammyhammer's cross plane motor. The weird firing order should provide the same sort of drivabilty/traction gains that the R1 has. And apparently an internal electric motor that maintains crank momentum at idle & lower RPMs (instead of a heavy crank or flywheel) since there's such a long pause between firings. :o Now that is whacky and cool. Is it a single "dead zone" or is it broken up at all? Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: derby on August 06, 2010, 12:56:35 PM Now that is whacky and cool. Is it a single "dead zone" or is it broken up at all? from the description, i'm assuming a single 540° deadzone with all cylinders firing in the remaining 180°. Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: fastwin on August 06, 2010, 02:43:59 PM Me too. It will be interesting to see if they step up to the plate and actually field a team to support the bike and get the riders who can get some podiums on it. Their past says no. I hope they take it seriously. [thumbsup] [moto]
Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: Speeddog on August 06, 2010, 03:02:51 PM That's going to be hard on the trans and clutch, I'm assuming they're beefed up.
Heavier.... Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: Cider on August 06, 2010, 05:48:37 PM Interesting whine. Gear-driven cams?
Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: kopfjäger on August 06, 2010, 06:35:55 PM Interesting whine. Gear-driven cams? All those bike whine. [evil] Tony Elias exits Pit Lane (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ8wcEcrJmY#normal) Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: kopfjäger on August 07, 2010, 01:09:38 PM <threadjack>
Moto gp sound von Nicky Hayden (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hydF5fU2T0w#normal) Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: fastwin on August 07, 2010, 03:28:52 PM I'm guessing that was pretty loud. [bang]
Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: Goat_Herder on August 07, 2010, 08:38:12 PM I'm guessing that was pretty loud. [bang] HUH? WHAT DID YOU SAY? Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: Stinky Wizzleteats on August 11, 2010, 05:49:45 PM Shervins would still be faster.
Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: Blue on August 30, 2010, 05:18:05 AM New test and video for the new Kawasaki.
Autopolis Test August 4th and 5th (http://www.kawasaki-challenge.com/#/autopolis/1) Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: kopfjäger on August 30, 2010, 08:38:11 PM [evil]
Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: Blue on September 23, 2010, 10:06:55 AM I know, why do I keep bringing this up?
Well, my first bike was a KZ, I have always had a KZ since I got my license and I have had as many as 5 KZs at one time. Yes, I am a Kawasaki fan and I would like to see them competitive in WSBK (and all others). There, I said it. Now... (http://www.kawasaki-challenge.com/images/wallpaper/Next_Ninja_1024_04.jpg) And more Wallpaper to be had: Wallpaper (http://www.kawasaki-challenge.com/#/wallpaper) And more hype by Kawasaki: 2011 WSB Racer Movie (http://www.kawasaki-challenge.com/#/wsbmovie/1) Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: Triple J on September 23, 2010, 10:58:06 AM Cool...a green S1000RR! :D
j/k...actually looks decent. Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: causeofkaos on September 24, 2010, 05:19:31 AM Kawaski for some reason is always considered as whatever brand for some reason,
however when they decide to bring it, they bring it fierce. im excited about this. looks really good! Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: zooom on September 24, 2010, 05:48:50 AM Kawaski for some reason is always considered as whatever brand for some reason, however when they decide to bring it, they bring it fierce. im excited about this. looks really good! I guess we'll see in serious launch how real this machine is in a couple of months... Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: fastwin on October 05, 2010, 01:14:28 PM Here's some poop on the new ZX-10R...
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Oct/101005kawizx10.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Oct/101005kawizx10.htm) Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: Raux on October 05, 2010, 01:23:06 PM I thought they had found a way to put some lightening holes in the frame to make it more competitive.
;D Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: fastwin on December 12, 2010, 03:34:16 PM Oops! Looks like a MAJOR recall on the new ZX-10R! Recalling all unsold bikes and offering a full refund for any sold bikes. That doesn't sound good. Like you just can't bring it back to the dealer for the "fix"?? Your option is a full refund. Jeepers, that's serious shit.
http://www.cyclenews.com/articles/industry-news/2010/12/12/problems-for-zx-10r (http://www.cyclenews.com/articles/industry-news/2010/12/12/problems-for-zx-10r) Wonder if my local Kawi/Suzook shop sold the new one they let me roll out. Just happened to be visiting the other week when they finished assembling the first one and they let me roll it onto the showroom floor. Got to sit on it and really liked the feel of it. Seemed small like a 600. It was a black one which made it look smaller. Liked the zero graphics on the black one and the mirrors are mounted lower on the upper fairing which really improved the rear view. Wonder what the recall problem is. Must be a big one! [bang] Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: Speeddog on December 12, 2010, 04:17:48 PM Perhaps has a similar problem to Pedrosa's Honda. :-X
Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: fastwin on December 12, 2010, 05:11:23 PM OK, being the bottom feeder/mouth breather that I am I am missing what is an obvious reference to Pedrobot and his Honda. Help the helpless with an explanation. ;D Thanks! [thumbsup]
Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: Speeddog on December 12, 2010, 06:07:56 PM Puig: "Dani, we've updated the software for the 'fly by wire' throttle, go try it out.'
Pedrosa: "OK, dad." (http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4130/5041422189_76992b3118.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26339726@N03/5041422189/) Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: fastwin on December 12, 2010, 07:07:51 PM Pics like that are always my favorite Pedrobot pics. Sorry, don't mean him any actual physical harm. Just saying. ;D
Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: Raux on December 12, 2010, 09:39:34 PM Oops! Looks like a MAJOR recall on the new ZX-10R! Recalling all unsold bikes and offering a full refund for any sold bikes. That doesn't sound good. Like you just can't bring it back to the dealer for the "fix"?? Your option is a full refund. Jeepers, that's serious shit. http://www.cyclenews.com/articles/industry-news/2010/12/12/problems-for-zx-10r (http://www.cyclenews.com/articles/industry-news/2010/12/12/problems-for-zx-10r) Wonder if my local Kawi/Suzook shop sold the new one they let me roll out. Just happened to be visiting the other week when they finished assembling the first one and they let me roll it onto the showroom floor. Got to sit on it and really liked the feel of it. Seemed small like a 600. It was a black one which made it look smaller. Liked the zero graphics on the black one and the mirrors are mounted lower on the upper fairing which really improved the rear view. Wonder what the recall problem is. Must be a big one! [bang] bet it is those damn lightening holes Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: fastwin on December 13, 2010, 12:11:36 PM [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] Yeah, but those could be fixed with duct tape at the dealer! [thumbsup]
Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: Monsterlover on December 18, 2010, 10:05:33 PM [popcorn]
Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: fastwin on December 30, 2010, 08:59:19 AM Problem solved. [thumbsup]
http://www.cyclenews.com/articles/industry-news/2010/12/29/zx-10r-s-problems-solved (http://www.cyclenews.com/articles/industry-news/2010/12/29/zx-10r-s-problems-solved) Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: ducpainter on December 30, 2010, 09:07:54 AM Problem solved. [thumbsup] So they did this complete recall of unsold units, and bought all sold units back for a full refund...http://www.cyclenews.com/articles/industry-news/2010/12/29/zx-10r-s-problems-solved (http://www.cyclenews.com/articles/industry-news/2010/12/29/zx-10r-s-problems-solved) According to Kawasaki engineers, the problem with the ZX-10R arose when they found a "possible surging of the intake valve spring when the unit is operated under unique riding conditions, such as on a racetrack. The surge could cause the intake valve to seat improperly, resulting in poor engine performance." because the bike might become a dog on the track? That's pretty extreme, isn't it? Of course there may be a special Japanese definition of poor engine performance I'm not aware of. I'm not buying. ;) Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: gm2 on December 30, 2010, 09:31:35 AM does sound like, uh, marketing.
however they REALLY need this bike to perform from day 1 or they might as well stop making 1000cc sport bikes. Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: Monsterlover on December 30, 2010, 10:05:43 AM Hey you sheep!!
Back in your pen! Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: Bill in OKC on December 30, 2010, 11:57:41 AM Of course there may be a special Japanese definition of poor engine performance I'm not aware of. I'm not buying. ;) This could be a fuzz phrase for "the valves hit the pistons" when you miss a shift... or something Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: ducpainter on December 30, 2010, 02:31:12 PM does sound like, uh, marketing. Kinda late for a first impression...no? I mean they already released, sold, and then recalled/repurchased all of them.however they REALLY need this bike to perform from day 1 or they might as well stop making 1000cc sport bikes. Seems like they closed the barn door after the cow got out. I hope they catch her. Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: Speeddog on December 30, 2010, 04:41:01 PM Yes, the valve may seat improperly.... especially after the spring breaks and the piston crunches the valve. [roll]
Surge in a valve spring is really bad for 'em. Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: triangleforge on December 31, 2010, 03:25:56 PM Guess what's the cover bike on the issue of Motor Cyclist magazine that arrived in my mailbox today, with typically hyperbolic
Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: fastwin on December 31, 2010, 06:28:41 PM I got mine today too and thought the same thing. Oops! [bang] I hate it when Kawi makes you look stupid! ;D
Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: zooom on January 07, 2011, 07:36:22 AM BIKE TESTED....
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/Jan/110106kawza10.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/Jan/110106kawza10.htm) to it's limits even.... (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/image/2011-kaw-zx10/4.jpg) Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: ducpainter on January 07, 2011, 07:50:04 AM BIKE TESTED.... perhaps the rider's limit?http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/Jan/110106kawza10.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/Jan/110106kawza10.htm) to it's limits even.... (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/image/2011-kaw-zx10/4.jpg) Title: Re: kawasaki, very sneaky! Post by: zooom on January 07, 2011, 12:49:33 PM perhaps the rider's limit? perhaps.... every other picture in the series looks like he can handle it...of course...the fact that alot more than 1 shows him on 1 wheel which could be a sign of hoon-ism which pushed his own envelope?!?!?! |