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Title: '07 S4Rs Speedometer problem
Post by: DoubleEagle on June 10, 2008, 05:28:23 PM
I had a crash with my S4Rs on 4/5 and broke 4 ribs , punctured my right lung and did some other nasty stuff to myself. My bike seemed to have come through the crash with no more than alot of mud and grass underneath it and a bent cluth lever . I have not ridden the bike since the crash. I have had it outside a couple of time ,once to run it up to 200 degrees but otherwise it's on a battery tender. Today I felt well enough to get it out and clean and lube the chain but I noticed the speedometer was resting at 40 mph. I turned the bike to the on position but nothing happen to the speedometer. I then started the bike for just a few seconds and then shut it off and still it is resting on 40 mph. Anyone have an idea why it is like this ?


Title: Re: '07 S4Rs Speedometer problem
Post by: DarkStaR on June 10, 2008, 05:33:57 PM
I had a crash with my S4Rs on 4/5 and broke 4 ribs , punctured my right lung and did some other nasty stuff to myself. My bike seemed to have come through the crash with no more than alot of mud and grass underneath it and a bent cluth lever . I have not ridden the bike since the crash. I have had it outside a couple of time ,once to run it up to 200 degrees but otherwise it's on a battery tender. Today I felt well enough to get it out and clean and lube the chain but I noticed the speedometer was resting at 40 mph. I turned the bike to the on position but nothing happen to the speedometer. I then started the bike for just a few seconds and then shut it off and still it is resting on 40 mph. Anyone have an idea why it is like this ?

Did any thing happen when you turned the key?

Did the needles sweep?


Title: Re: '07 S4Rs Speedometer problem
Post by: DoubleEagle on June 10, 2008, 06:23:35 PM
Did any thing happen when you turned the key?

Did the needles sweep?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Just the Tach needle.


Title: Re: '07 S4Rs Speedometer problem
Post by: Speeddog on June 10, 2008, 06:50:50 PM
All other electrical devices work?

A fuse may have come loose when you binned it.

Also, check the connector on the back of the gauges.


Title: Re: '07 S4Rs Speedometer problem
Post by: DoubleEagle on June 10, 2008, 07:33:08 PM
All other electrical devices work?

A fuse may have come loose when you binned it.

Also, check the connector on the back of the gauges.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              As far as I know all electrics work but I haven't done a full run through. I'll check for a loose fuse.........What should I be looking for as far as the gauge connector ?


Title: Re: '07 S4Rs Speedometer problem
Post by: DarkStaR on June 10, 2008, 08:10:06 PM
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              As far as I know all electrics work but I haven't done a full run through. I'll check for a loose fuse.........What should I be looking for as far as the gauge connector ?

Try disconnecting the harness at the cluster, and re-plug.

Did the immobilizer light blink after you shut it down?


Title: Re: '07 S4Rs Speedometer problem
Post by: JDS 07 S4Rs on June 10, 2008, 08:23:14 PM
Hey D E. I am wondering if the Needle just didnt pop off of the Pin ?

My tach did the same thing a few weeks ago after chopping the throttle in the middle of a wheelie. Man,,,, those are harsh.

It wasnt that hard to remove the tach & face plate & push the needle back on the pin.


Title: Re: '07 S4Rs Speedometer problem
Post by: DoubleEagle on June 10, 2008, 08:42:45 PM
Hey D E. I am wondering if the Needle just didnt pop off of the Pin ?

My tach did the same thing a few weeks ago after chopping the throttle in the middle of a wheelie. Man,,,, those are harsh.

It wasnt that hard to remove the tach & face plate & push the needle back on the pin.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I'ii look into that possibility as well...thanks.


Title: Re: '07 S4Rs Speedometer problem
Post by: DoubleEagle on June 10, 2008, 08:49:28 PM
Try disconnecting the harness at the cluster, and re-plug.

Did the immobilizer light blink after you shut it down?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Can't say for sure about the immobilizer light.I'm not sure I know what you mean by immobilizer light..maybe a light that I know by another name?
























Title: Re: '07 S4Rs Speedometer problem
Post by: DarkStaR on June 10, 2008, 08:59:19 PM
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Can't say for sure about the immobilizer light.I'm not sure I know what you mean by immobilizer light..maybe a light that I know by another name?

It's the yellow light that blinks after you shut off the bike.

It's usually between the 2 gauges, near the buttons.


Title: Re: '07 S4Rs Speedometer problem
Post by: DoubleEagle on June 10, 2008, 09:06:54 PM
It's the yellow light that blinks after you shut off the bike.

It's usually between the 2 gauges, near the buttons.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                The light that blinks every few seconds while the bike is on the battery tender ?  When you said shut it down in your earlier post did you mean after the bike had been running or after I turned it to on then off ...or does it matter which ?


Title: Re: '07 S4Rs Speedometer problem
Post by: DoubleEagle on June 10, 2008, 09:22:58 PM
I just went and checked the immobolizer light and it's blinking while on the battery tender. I took it off the battery tender and turned it to the on position and then turned it off and it started to blink right away.


Title: Re: '07 S4Rs Speedometer problem
Post by: hypurone on June 11, 2008, 10:27:38 AM
I just went and checked the immobolizer light and it's blinking while on the battery tender. I took it off the battery tender and turned it to the on position and then turned it off and it started to blink right away.

Normal operation will have it blink for 24 hours  after "key-off", then stops to save battery life. The immobilizer is still active, just the light stops flashing...


Title: Re: '07 S4Rs Speedometer problem
Post by: DoubleEagle on June 11, 2008, 08:15:20 PM
UPDATE: Today in the sunlight I checked out some things w/ the bike .  1) I checked out the fuses and they were all tight and none blown. 2) I checked the speedometer and the needle was on the pin.  3) I checked out the gauge cluster plug and it was was secure to the back of the gauges . 4)  I checked out the Immobilizer light . It was still blinking when I took it off the battery tender. I ran the bike and when I shut it off the light blinked immediately like it should.  So the needle is still  pointing at 40 mph , so I guess I'm back to square one.?


Title: Re: '07 S4Rs Speedometer problem
Post by: DarkStaR on June 11, 2008, 08:46:39 PM
Just to confirm:

Does the tach needle work?

If it does, check the speedo pick-up & wire on the swing arm. 

Hint:  There's only one wire on the swingarm.


Title: Re: '07 S4Rs Speedometer problem
Post by: DoubleEagle on June 11, 2008, 08:56:38 PM
Just to confirm:

Does the tach needle work?

If it does, check the speedo pick-up & wire on the swing arm. 

Hint:  There's only one wire on the swingarm.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Tach works fine.  Where does the speedometer connect ...doesn't it connect to the front wheel somewhere ?


Title: Re: '07 S4Rs Speedometer problem
Post by: DarkStaR on June 11, 2008, 09:37:14 PM
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Tach works fine.  Where does the speedometer connect ...doesn't it connect to the front wheel somewhere ?

Scratch that, it "should" sweep regardless.

I'm out of ideas.    ???


Title: Re: '07 S4Rs Speedometer problem
Post by: DoubleEagle on June 11, 2008, 10:13:00 PM
Just to confirm:

Does the tach needle work?

If it does, check the speedo pick-up & wire on the swing arm. 

Hint:  There's only one wire on the swingarm.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             I thought the speed sensor was located on the front wheel ?? If there's a wire on the swing arm it must attach to a sensor where ...on the swing arm ?


Title: Re: '07 S4Rs Speedometer problem
Post by: DarkStaR on June 11, 2008, 10:34:00 PM
I don't think this is the problem, but:

It's on the rear swingarm. Follow the wire or look near the brake rotor bolts.

 


Title: Re: '07 S4Rs Speedometer problem
Post by: Super T.I.B on June 12, 2008, 02:22:41 AM
Ok, my cluster did sort of the same thing on my 620, but the needle was stuck on 11000 rpm when it wasn't even running.

Took it back to the dealer and he said the gauge cluster had a common problem with all current (before 696) Monsters. He pointed to a S4R and said that one needed to be done too.

He took it off and put a new one on, under warranty.

So, take it back to be replaced.

 ;)


Title: Re: '07 S4Rs Speedometer problem
Post by: DoubleEagle on June 12, 2008, 04:54:34 AM
Ok, my cluster did sort of the same thing on my 620, but the needle was stuck on 11000 rpm when it wasn't even running.

Took it back to the dealer and he said the gauge cluster had a common problem with all current (before 696) Monsters. He pointed to a S4R and said that one needed to be done too.

He took it off and put a new one on, under warranty.

So, take it back to be replaced.

 ;)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Sorry to hear that !... I was hoping to fix it myself. Thanks for the info though.......DE


Title: Re: '07 S4Rs Speedometer problem
Post by: DoubleEagle on June 12, 2008, 05:41:30 AM
UPDATE: Just got off the phone with my local Dealer /Service Mgr. , he finally returned my call. He said he was going to order a new gauge package, that they can't be fixed........so much for that story for now. Just have to wait for Ducati which we all know might take 'til Thanks Giving.


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