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I sent Leo Vince an email asking if they are planning on doing some GP style exhaust for the M1100 Evo.  They sent a response back and said this is what they are going to release for the M1100 Evo.  I like them better than the stock pipes but I was hoping they were coming out with a GP style. 

There is a sound link on their website also. 
http://www.leovince.com/en/catalog-ducati/terminale_factory_r_omologato_evo_ii_passaggio_standard_monster_1100_evo_i_e_2011/14510 (http://www.leovince.com/en/catalog-ducati/terminale_factory_r_omologato_evo_ii_passaggio_standard_monster_1100_evo_i_e_2011/14510)


(http://i.imgur.com/k0CYBl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/k0CYB) (http://i.imgur.com/ghuqrl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/ghuqr)

(http://i.imgur.com/KKt4xl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/KKt4x) (http://i.imgur.com/zz4EVl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/zz4EV)

 [thumbsup] that looks like a winner! I didn't like the diavel-like stock exhaust.

Not bad at all  8)

I'm not convinced by the sound clip though - where's the rumble  ???

Much better looking than stock!

I like it!  [thumbsup]

Sounds and looks GREAT!  [thumbsup]

about the sound clip

that's the Ti can that is E-approved
so i suspect, still has cat conv.

but i think at the very least, the exhaust valve is also still intact in the system (right under the footpeg) so anything added will still be somewhat muffled by the system.

once someone comes up with a new midpipe to remove the valve.. then we might here the rumble.

Doesn't the valve open at a certain rev count?

.... but of course, if it's EU homologated - that means very quiet.


Thread jack - Raux - Ducati is on National Geographic MegaFactories now - watching?

I really like it. [thumbsup]

Jim

Besides Leo Vince, has anyone else come out with pipes for the Evo?

I pretty much told myself I will have at least a year of riding with ugly pipes before I see any real options.

Eh, not impressed. It's certainly an improvement over stock, but it's not great. I think I prefer a shotgun exhaust when it's a side mount.

I can't wait to see what else becomes available.  I don't love the Termis options. 

Jim

Anyone who riding a 1100evo, if you would like to sell your mid-pipe, please let me know. I am riding a 1100s, I would like to install the 1100evo mid-pipe with the termignoni slip onto my bike.

+1
I think it looks too similar to a japanese bike with the single side can like that. DOES however look better than the stocker. I do like the termis for the EVO though.

Not a big fan either/ I personally like the stocker cans. Not a huge fan of the termis but the Leo exhaust takes something away.

+1.  Doesnt flow visually IMO.

And I'd rather see the SSS than the fresh air between the wheel and seat.

The Arrow pipes aren't too bad...but still not quite what I'd want.

http://www.arrow.it/eng/prodotti/motociclo.asp?IDM=7&IDTab=1199 (http://www.arrow.it/eng/prodotti/motociclo.asp?IDM=7&IDTab=1199)

(http://www.arrow.it/miniaturaMod.aspx?src=/oggetti/4297_Ducati_Monster1100Evo_11_Slip-on_Works_1.JPG&w=700&max=700)

Diavel style termis is the answer to that.

+1  I really like those pipes. No doubt the Monster faithful will feel that it's too modern.

I think the bikes too new for there to be any good systems available for it yet, or atleast havent seen anything that I have to have. I personally think the termi's are hideous and the dealer told me the dp ecu sucks so im hoping for another option for my evo. Really hoping they make an undertail kit, anything to open up that rear wheel. I dont like the look of the leo's, saw an arrow in black that I thought looked on the right track just not quite there yet.

I've never liked pipes going to a single large can,  I find it takes away from the slick look of the bike too much.. Makes it feel more Japanese and hard

i would love to see something under the tail so we can show that one sided swingarm and wheel. but the arrow makes the bike look like a cheap messenger bike in my opinion.

they got rid of the undertail for heat reasons. too many complaints i bet
hell even the Diavel, MTS, new SBK are underengine or low.

to go back to an undertail... nah... don't think it will happen

I saw and heard the Evo carbon slip ons today....

Neutral on the Y-pipe, minus on the end caps (must be painted), but a BIG FAT PLUS on the sound [thumbsup]

Termignoni at their best [clap]

Termis do sound bad ass, esp without dbkillers  [clap]


Ducati Monster 1100 Evo Termignoni Sound (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xRXRZHBibs#)

Sorry for being the voice of practicality, but do any of these exhausts allow you to take the wheel off without taking off the can? I hate doing extra work when I dont have to.

lol that happens maybe once every season right? to change the tire...

i would really love a comp werkes for my evo. Still have not done one.  :-[

 [thumbsup] I've just got my evo, and one of the main selling points, for me anyway, was the stock exhaust system. I like it a lot. Sounds good as well, as I have no time for window rattling after market cans. So, I'm probably in the minority then!

It would be interesting to know if you're in the minority or not.
I'm not sure.... probably/maybe among poster on our forum, but maybe not among the masses.

The new Ducati bikes seems to have nicer sounding stock exhaust than older bikes,
so it's no longer as mandatory as it used to be.... maybe.

smaller would be better. right now looks like any singled sided exhaust on 90s japanese bikes.

 [thumbsup]

Mine's an '11 796 and it makes good tunes even when I'm wearing earplugs. No need for more noise. A few of my riding pals even commented, "Is that stock?!".  ;) Maybe they are richer-sounding than the old bikes.

In your case, you might have MOT issues as well.

Saw your intro BTW. I'm 65 and broke my shoulder 2 1/2 years ago and feel your pain. My old K-bike was out of the question and as soon as I could move my arm again, I picked up a Bonneville T-100 for the upright riding position. Nice engine and good looks for a standard bike but not much else. It did strengthen my arm muscles and has been good therapy.

This year I finally had Ducati withdrawal symptoms and picked up a 796 to fill the void. 400 lbs makes a huge difference I agree!!! a few minor mods later, I'm very pleased to have a bike again which goes where you "think" it.

Have fun!

Agreed! I love how my stock 796 cans sound. However, they are a bit bulky and heavy. But, they dont stick out past the tail! I think that with time there will be better options for exhausts for the new Monsters.

I think you can almost stick any can on this bike you want
Just make a linkpipe and buy something different (like a nice short Akra)

Me thinks the stock looks better than what is currently available for the EVO.  

(http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/240/dsc00446sw.jpg)

hot damn. I love a red monster w/ black wheels

the exhaust makes me want the new evo1100. i ant wait to get rid of my S2R for one.

How did you get your exhaust that color?  I have a black evo and would love my cans to be that color....until I can afford Termi's :)

(http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/300/4c/4cd22e20-efb6-4bb1-875d-7bd21bf19c8a_300.jpg)

Remove the exhaust, clean with soap and water, let it dry then spray away. 

Awesome! Looks like a project for an upcoming weekend!  Thx!

I think that looks better than any of the other options I've seen so far.  Nice work and reasonably price also.  I would like to see how it looks with a black bike.

With the Termis kit I am probably more interested in the ECU than the pipes. 

Jim

You're welcome.  Apply two to three coats and let it dry.

Getting back on the topic, Im thinking of making my own with this :)

(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/597/mgpgsxr1000091.jpg)

And hope it turns out like this [thumbsup]

(http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/4158/36914full.jpg)
(http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/1621/36917full.jpg)
(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/9885/36919full.jpg)  

Just saw this one from SC Project
(http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac51/rllout/72286ee6.jpg)

That's not too bad! I like that the rear wheel is hardly blocked.

That's what I've been planning on doing, looks good.

Please take pics when you are done.  That's along the lines of the kind of setup I've been looking for.  I'd love a short and stubby GP style pipe.

I like SC, I put there 2 to 1 on my 1100s
(http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac51/rllout/de63eead.jpg)

If you're going to start with a base, might as well start with the diavel remus hypercone

Looks like it might be easier to adapt

I hope they just end up coming out with one for the EVO as well

(http://www.remususa.com/WebRoot/Store/Shops/remus/4E55/4C08/C6EE/C802/8035/AC10/0347/F4C5/Diavel.jpg)

That's almost exactly the style I'm looking for.  I really hope they start adapting some better styles.

Here is another choice.

(http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt116/jimsd2/Ducati_0020_Monster_0020_1100_0020_EVo.jpg)

http://www.remus.eu/056782157111-hypercone-slip-on-stainless-steel-black-sport-no-eec-60-mm.html (http://www.remus.eu/056782157111-hypercone-slip-on-stainless-steel-black-sport-no-eec-60-mm.html)

Just like the Diavel's pipe.  Looks like it is available as a stainless with carbon tip and flat black with carbon tip.  There is a sound clip on the website.

Jim

Anybody get a price quote on this exhaust yet?  I just emailed them requesting one....

899.00 for the remus slip on. Too expensive for what it is if you ask me.


REMUS_Ducati_Monster_1100_EVO_mit_HYPERCONE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YL4QHxT7xMA#)

Competition Werks are trying to develop a version of the slip on for the M1100EVO. If anyone's in the OR region, with an M1100EVO please drop them an email and let them know if you're interested in offering your bike as a test subject.

http://www.competitionwerkes.com/Products/Ducati/2011/Diavel (http://www.competitionwerkes.com/Products/Ducati/2011/Diavel)

(http://www.competitionwerkes.com/siteimages/products/WDDVL-S_large.jpg)

I've talked to Shawn, great guy. I would buy it if it was like the one on the Diavel

Yeah, it's a cool exhaust. If they were anywhere near me, I'd donate my bike for development for sure. I saw it on one of the new Speed Triples parked on the street and looked it up based on that. It'd be great if someone could help them (and us!) out. :)

i contacted tem several months ago. I would love to have a comp werkes exhaust on mine. There just too far for me. Im in MD  :'(

Spark has a new high set coming soon. saw them today at desmoworld stand at eicma

Really? any pics? Come on, don't tease us  :-\

I found it

https://www.facebook.com/Spark.Exhaust.Technology (https://www.facebook.com/Spark.Exhaust.Technology)

How do you attach a pic in here?

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I don't hate it.  I do think I like the low pipe better though.

Looks like you lose the passenger pegs, rear turn signals and need a custom plate holder...

Desmoworld is the make of that short tail that fits the exhaust. turn signals are below the exhaust like the sbk

not sure about the passenger pegs, forgot to ask Chris.

I see the turn signals now, my bad.  I'm curious what the weight of that system is considering how long the mid pipe is.  And I agree with the earlier post, I don't hate it but I like the lower dual exhaust better.  The Zard looks promising.

(http://www.zardexhaust.com/wp-content/themes/zard/timthumb.php?src=http://www.zardexhaust.com/wp-content/uploads/Monster1100evo.jpg&h=100&w=270&zc=1)

This is the only pic available on the Zard I can find.

looks nice, but you're going to wind up with all the underseat heat issues that they fixed by moving to pipes lower.

I like it, I don't want anything blocking the ssa. The Zard looks better then the Termi. The Zard is about $905 us dollar.
http://www.zardexhaust.com/?page_id=2203 (http://www.zardexhaust.com/?page_id=2203)

i don't agree the crossover with the valve probably was a big source of the problem

i agree, it was the header snaking up past the inner thigh that roasted the hell out of my legs.  do you think the extended length of this set up will cool it down enough that it wont be so bad?  that header looks to be about the same position as the undertail set up.

The rear header uses that same frame passthrough for the evo, so if that was someone's issue, it will still be there.

I think it's gonna be hot regardless.  With the current setup my right leg gets baked, with this it'll be my right leg and my ass.

also there is a Quad E-box for the evo. I saw a picture that a guy at the ducati communty forum had.

http://www.italo-shop.com/product_info.php?language=en&info=p3931_Auspuff-Quat-D-ex-box-M696-796-1100---M1100-EVO.html (http://www.italo-shop.com/product_info.php?language=en&info=p3931_Auspuff-Quat-D-ex-box-M696-796-1100---M1100-EVO.html)

i have to post his pic. but i think it looks great

I'm thinking within the next month or so there will be many options for the 2012 Evo, which is a good thing. In the mean time I'm taking my stock cans off and trying the shorty GP I bought ftom Asado

It's $1,500 for the Quad exhaust!!!!  Doesn't even include a new ECU or air filter......no thanks

Please post the pic or a link.  The one above doesn't show the evo unless you have to reroute the rear brake line. 

Ya, that's too much. I'm not wanting to spend more then $1000-1100. Then you're going to have to get it tuned, so there's anoter $500-600

I've always liked the Quat-d Ex-box but for $1500 with no ECU or anything? Not a good deal. I had one on my S4RS and it was cool but for that much I'd spring for the extra and the Termi system from Ducati and keep my warranty.

These are not from my bike. They are from ducaticommunity. Bike Owner JSica


(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z22/Hellraising-vtec/tb_640x480.jpg)



(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z22/Hellraising-vtec/tb_640x4801.jpg)

To each their own, but for me, it doesn't flow. A big box reminds me of the "Utter" on the s4rs

I wanna know how close that rear header is the rear brake line.  That line goes down pretty much down the center of that opening in the swingarm.

Now this looks bad ass

The Spark system on the EVO in muskrat's post was on the Desmoworld stand at the Milan show, it is one of the neatest that I've seen and the quality is first class.

Geoff... [coffee]

I'm hoping it's not too expensive though

another angle

(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/317130_244942038895865_100001402122676_675329_1673258253_n.jpg)

it's tucked in really tight and probably won't work with any other short tail than the DesmoWorld one they are developing... which is cool btw.

btw, Geoff,

not sure which thread the answer goes on, but I spoke to Alpina and they are going to make a tubeless wirewheel for the SSS soon.

I to spoke with Alpina about the tubeless wirewheels, seems they already make them for BMW bikes and are developing them for the ducati market.

I got Steve a cataloge to send to Australia but so far he's not PMed me his addy... [bang]

Geoff... [coffee]

I'll pinch it from him  [thumbsup]
You can send it to me and I promise I'll send it on.
P.O.Box 1334
Strawberry Hills
New South Wales.
2012

 [cheeky] [cheeky] [cheeky] [cheeky]

hey guys ... i was long time not here so i hope all are ok ?  ;D

some of you came to EICMA for a visit ... SUPER !  [clap]

i´m not sure if you see our facebook page , so maybe its better to check some good pics to see the high mount version from different angles

http://www.desmoworld.com/shop/desmoworld_m1100_evo (http://www.desmoworld.com/shop/desmoworld_m1100_evo)

i love it ... not only because its made by a very good cooperation with spark and desmoworld or because its my bike ... no i love it because its one of the best looking exhausts on a monster ( in my point of view )  [thumbsup]

passengerpegs are no problem ... of course we think about this while developing  :D

(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/388687_10150369153383853_366985198852_8304323_1436586966_n.jpg)

CU
Chris

PM sent  [evil]

Thanks Geoff  [thumbsup]

Very interested in this, any word on price or release date?

I want them, just waiting for MotoWheels to tell me when I'll be getting them ;-)
Those mirrors on the bike look nice, as long as you want to look at yourself, only  :o

you think Termi will shorten their cans now that they've seen Spark's system?   ;)

If you saw the quality of the Spark system in person, you wouldn't consider buying the Termis

I wasn't a big fan of the Diavel pipes on my new 1100 EVO, so went with these stacked Termy's (unbaffled of course). In fact the other day, I downshifted while riding near a ranch and scared a horse that ended up bucking the rider off - I felt bad but cool at the same time.  8)

(http://i.imgur.com/7qyfs.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/CZIbh.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/bjiMa.jpg)

I think they look better on a computer screen, but at what cost?

Yeah, I agree. These are very nice, but not 1200+ nice. At that point I'd rather wait for motocreations to come back online and buy some boomtubes.

The Spark won't be that expensive in the non homolagated version (no cats and db killer) that we sell in the USA.
If you look at their other slip-on high systems on our website, they are all under $1000.

We ordered a few of the Spark M1100 evo systems. We will know prices in a few days. Let nick@motowheels.com know if you are interested and he will set one aside for you.

-M

Ducati Monster 1100 with SC-Project GP Evo exhaust (db killer in) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbUBD0PDwa8&feature=related#)

I recently fitted an SC-Project 2-1 full system on a friends 796 monster, it fitted perfectly with the front header pipe running horizontally along the right side of the motor and rising up just behind the passenger footpeg into the single can opening up the rear of the bike... [thumbsup]

But if you are one of those guys that like to have two cans well the Spark system that Chris (Desmoworld) had on his stand in Milan was the "DOG'S", the quality, fit and finish where all first class and if I was reccomending any one on what system for the new style monster that would be the one... [bow_down]

Geoff... [coffee]

No more big Ugly can

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y165/hundo24/DucMgpShorty2.jpg)

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y165/hundo24/DucMgpShorty.jpg)

Any idea on weight difference between the spark and oem? Will it work with the stock license plate brkt?

Yup.  Thats the dog's bollocks in EVO exhaust IMO  [thumbsup]

i doubt it, their pretty tucked in. email Chris from Desmoworld.

(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/305434_10150368982243853_366985198852_8303298_353522613_n.jpg)


Ok....I've been looking at the Sparks a lot!!!!  It is really growing on me.  Is the heat issue gonna be present and I saw the passenger pegs work but will the passenger be exposed to too much heat???

(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/377448_10150371908403853_366985198852_8314110_2056578178_n.jpg)

Found this one too on their Facebook....too many choices!!!!!!!  ;D

I don't see the heat issue being a factor.  After all, you are sitting on an air cooled engine that gets to 230 F easily, plus the cans are carbon.

Two totally different looks, it's probably 50/50 on who likes what

I hope you are right.  I was a bit rigid on my initial belief of being true to the form of the Evo and keeping the stacked side cans.  I like the looks of the undertail exhaust, having the SSA exposed really looks nice.

Yep, I'm sure...I want the High Mount Sparks!  How much???

The heat isn't going to come from the cans.  I get a ton of heat from the headers with just the stock pipes.  Now you'll have more pipe. 

Just ceramic coat them if you are worried about heat.

That's a good idea.  I'm hoping not to do that tho

hey guys,

only you understand correct ... the low version is not the final version , there will be some modifications like the head shield and maybe the endcaps
so stay tuned  ;D

and of course we dont see a heat problem at all   [thumbsup]

the prices are not fixed now but will be ready in 1-2 weeks, i can let you know

CU
Chris

made a small sound video today ... nothing special and of course include dB.killer and kat to be EU streetlegal  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtqVlXx0diM

so if you order the race version the sound will be a little better  [laugh]

for any questions let me know  ;D

really like the sound and look. When will you guys start selling it? and aprox. how much?

an approximate price is like maybe - maybe not ... says nothing  ;D
wait until end of next week please   [thumbsup]

selling start of the high or low mount ?

High mount for me and no DB killers  [thumbsup]

high mount
no cat
no db killers  [thumbsup]

oh i think this should be no selling topic !!?

ok send me a mail to info@desmoworld.de under the keyword dmf/monster evo with

material:carbon/titan/blackedition/polished stainless
version: high/low
cat/no cat
dB-killer/no dB-killer
and of course aprox. where you live

we put you in the list so you will be informed immediatly wen the price are ready. we will do like this ?  [thumbsup]

You guys did an excellent job on the high mount exhaust.  Makes me want a new one now.   [bang] [bang] [bang]

My Ducati parts guys at MotoWheels will let me know  ;D

Second this setup plz

I kinda like like the low but that heat shield has gotta go.  It's good to see places building stuff for the Evo.

some guys ask about the different materials

check our old M1100 to understand the 4 materials ( important : this is the M1100 , not the Evo Version ... so the position is not the one we speak about  ;D )

(http://www.desmoworld.com/shop/media/catalog/product/g/d/gdu0826_vergleich_1200_1.jpg)
©desmoworld !

nothing else new? I hope comp werkesdoes one soon. Looking forward to see there design  [Dolph]

I hope we'll see a bunch more next year.  A few companies have said they will be releasing systems for the Evo next year as demand picks up.

another exhaust i have not seen before.

Powercone by GPR

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ducati-Monster-1100-Evo-Exhaust-Stainless-Powercone-GPR-/140663222441?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item20c02e70a9 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ducati-Monster-1100-Evo-Exhaust-Stainless-Powercone-GPR-/140663222441?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item20c02e70a9)

Double Thunder by GPR

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ducati-Monster-1100-Evo-Exhaust-Double-Thunder-GPR-/140663175546?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item20c02db97a (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ducati-Monster-1100-Evo-Exhaust-Double-Thunder-GPR-/140663175546?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item20c02db97a)

(http://www.gpr-motorcycle-exhausts.co.uk/ProductImages/fullsize/monsterevo_1100_powercone_full(600_x_450).jpg)

I dig it, I wonder how it sounds.

DUCATI MONSTER 1100 EVO SCARICO SILENZIATORE GPR POWERCONE RACING CON DBKILLER (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3nsOT5nfio#)

Never heard a price from spark?? Either from my local connection or desmo

Chris did email everyone who requested to be put on the list.  I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post the price he sent out.  PM me if you want it.

It's also listed for sale here...but sold out:  http://motowheels.com/i-8029612-spark-high-round-slip-on-cf-m1100-evo.html (http://motowheels.com/i-8029612-spark-high-round-slip-on-cf-m1100-evo.html)

Chris

Well I requested from both, interesting.

Some more pics of the Zards here

http://www.zardexhaust.com/?page_id=2203 (http://www.zardexhaust.com/?page_id=2203)

Jim

I like your exhaust man, ive really been thinking about getting this set up. What kind of db's ya think it has with the silencer in? Also how does it sound overall?

Comp werkes emailed me back and said to check the website in two weeks! [bow_down]

Already bought the Leo Vince but thanks for the heads up. Still interested on seeing what they came up with.

Have you looked at the Remus?  I'm considering it,  but need to do some more research. 

Hi, I'm new here and have decided to switch to Ducati (finally).

I'm about to order a M1100 Evo and I really can't decide on the exhaust system. I've search all over the forums here and on other forums as well  and on Google but I can't find any good answers.

Basically this is what I am choosing from:

Termins: The problem I have with those are that they cover up the wheel too much. I have yet to find out what the power increase is from them. Anybody knows?

My dealer gives me a really good deal on these mounted on the bike but I don't know...

SC-Project: They seam to come from people that knows what they are doing (coming from the Ducati Pramac Team). The price is really good. They state a good power increase of 4-5 hp on the low part on their website but it seams no one is using the SCs for this bike. At least I haven't seen any opinions.

The sound (or should I say the tone) is important to me as is the power gain. Which one of these gives the best deep tone/power gain? Has anybody seen both of these in real life. I really can't make upp my mind just looking at youtube videos

I just got my 1100 Evo over the weekend.  I had the dealer install a Remus hypercone (black) and tune with Power Commander V.  The low, deep bass is amazing (no dB killer insert).  I had Termi's on my old 2009 Monster 1100, but I left the dB killers in.  Therefore I can't make an apples to apples comparison, but I am blown away by the sound right now.  The Remus also shows off 90% of the wheel instead of blocking it.

-Paul

Is there a reason you didn't install Termin on your new bike (price, looks, sound)? I thought the Power Commander did no good on the M1100 Evo since it has a closed loop system. Maybe I'm wrong?

Point of order: it's "Termi" as in Termignoni, if you want to add a letter you should be saying "Termig".  :-X

Having said that, it comes down to cost for me. I actually think that the Termis look pretty good and come with the ECU and airbox mods so it's all factory and your warranty stays intact (not to mention the extra 500 rpm). The SC looks pretty good but it kinda messes with the design of the bike IMO. It's pretty but I'd want a low mount myself, still waiting for Competition Werks so come out with their shorty, seems like it might be a good option.

Price and looks were the biggest.  I don't like the double can blocking the wheel.  The ECU is overpriced (and I had it in my last bike).  Apparently the PC V has O2 optimizers or something along those lines that allow manipulation within the closed loop.  That was something I asked specifically about, and I wish I could give you more info but it's not an area of expertise for me.  I researched it and it seems like it's a pretty new thing that the PC V can work with the Siemens at least enough to get the job done.  I can say that I rode the bike today for 75 miles and it's smoother at low revs than my 2009 M1100S with full Termi system and ECU.  I also have 14t front sprocket on both bikes.

Actually Termins would refer to an english plural mod of a word in a foreign language. In addition, saying Termig in Italian would not make sense to anybody while with  Termins I think people would actually understand what you are saying even in Italy. I know since I am Italian (but living in Sweden). But OK, lets stick with Termignoni for the sake of being correct. Pretty OT here now ;)

I guess looks is really something subjective. The warranty will stay intact for me regardless of what exhaust I decide to put on. Do you know how much extra power the Termigoni actually gives? It seems no one knows that when I asked around.

And i must admit, the Competition Werks looks pretty good. Any Idea when they will release a system for the M1100 Evo?


Interesting, I didn't know that. Did you do a Dyno test with the PC V?

^ I called competition werkes 2 weeks ago and they said the 1100evo kit will be on their website soon. It will be a single pipe side exit like the diavel kit and will run $449.00

The dealer did do a dyno before and after the mods (including the PC V, Remus can etc.).  I also had new lighter, higher compression pistons installed that Ferracci (the dealer) designed.  The peak hp went from 87 to 96.

Thanks for explaining, I appreciate it, I wasn't really attempting to explain the language, just what people call Termignonis, thanks.  [thumbsup]

I hope they are up soon, I've seen their pipe on a Speed Triple & looks pretty nice, hoping we get something nice too.

Wow, thats a pretty good increase. This might be a stupid question but Ducati states 100 hp original. Why did you get less? Is it because Ducati measures on the engine and you on the wheel? Anyway, I'm going to talk to my dealer a see what he can do :)



Yes I saw that one and in deed it looked really nice. The only problem now is that I went from having two choices to having three. I was hoping for  the other way around  ;)

The reason is because all the manufacturer's inflate their hp claims.  I had seen someone else dyno a stock 1100 Evo with the hp being in the mid 80's and my experience confirms that.

You came to the wrong place then! [laugh]