(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Alucardbomb/photo-19.jpg)
Bad design or worst design?
Seriously, did they forget some hardware or is this just the way it works?
Not sure what im suppose to be looking at thats annoying?
The part of the frame thats chipped from that bolt. Common sense would tell me that the bolt should have probably had a rubber head on the end to avoid this. Instead everytike you turn your handlebars to the max it chips the frame more?
Agreed, mine is not as bad as yours (no large chip but a centered circle where the stop hits). :-\
A rubber or aluninum pad would have been better than a direct strike to the beautiful paint job!
That's the way it is. Stop banging the bars from lock to lock like an ape and you won't chip the paint off the steering lock tabs. Or be a man and go find some caps for the adjustment screws if it gets your frilly panties in a bunch.
Is it me or do all the nouveau-Ducatisti 696 riders whine incessantly about nonissues of this ilk?
maybe you should go ask for a refund or file a class action lawsuit
in other news the universe is an imperfect place
Quote from: bergdoerfer on July 02, 2011, 01:36:22 PM
That's the way it is. Stop banging the bars from lock to lock like an ape and you won't chip the paint off the steering lock tabs. Or be a man and go find some caps for the adjustment screws if it gets your frilly panties in a bunch.
Is it me or do all the nouveau-Ducatisti 696 riders whine incessantly about nonissues of this ilk?
maybe you should go ask for a refund or file a class action lawsuit
in other news the universe is an imperfect place
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Alucardbomb/u-mad1.jpg)
Quote from: bergdoerfer on July 02, 2011, 01:36:22 PM
Is it me or do all the nouveau-Ducatisti 696 riders whine incessantly about nonissues of this ilk?
maybe you should go ask for a refund or file a class action lawsuit
in other news the universe is an imperfect place
Let's see, where's that middle finger icon, I guess this will do >:(
It's you! Pointing out that two parts are striking each other causing paint to chip off seems like reason to post a thread. Chains have rubbing blocks, fenders keep mud off things, how would he know that this is normal and not missing a part!
Removed second part of post written in anger.
Quote from: NateNewThread on July 02, 2011, 01:52:23 PM
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Alucardbomb/u-mad1.jpg)
hahahahahahaha
Quote from: bergdoerfer on July 02, 2011, 01:36:22 PM
That's the way it is. Stop banging the bars from lock to lock like an ape and you won't chip the paint off the steering lock tabs. Or be a man and go find some caps for the adjustment screws if it gets your frilly panties in a bunch.
Is it me or do all the nouveau-Ducatisti 696 riders whine incessantly about nonissues of this ilk?
maybe you should go ask for a refund or file a class action lawsuit
in other news the universe is an imperfect place
[roll] Your point about not banging the bars so aggressively against the stops is a valid one. Your snotty delivery manner in making that point is somewhat less valid [thumbsdown].
Quote from: danaid on July 02, 2011, 02:19:13 PM
Let's see, where's that middle finger icon, I guess this will do >:(
It's you! Pointing out that two parts are striking each other causing paint to chip off seems like reason to post a thread. Chains have rubbing blocks, fenders keep mud off things, how would he know that this is normal and not missing a part!
Removed second part of post written in anger.
Don't take it to heart mate. It'll be ok. A good way to stop your bike getting all dirty and scratched is to park it in the garage and never ride it.
They annoy me too. :D
I hit a bug or rock or something and it put a small ding in the paint of my bikini fairing.
Is there some kind of fairing I can install in front of the bikini fairing to deflect bugs and rocks and stuff?
I like Ben Spies
Off the top of my head I can't think of a steel-frame bike that didn't have painted steering stops where the paint chipped off almost immediately (I've owned more than a dozen steel framers). Its how most bikes are made. Cages too for that matter.
Qute pregnant dog'n and search for solutions. [cheeky] [laugh]
http://www.ducatisuite.com/miscmods.html (http://www.ducatisuite.com/miscmods.html)
(http://www.ducatisuite.com/images/stopper.jpg)
STEERING STOPS
$1
2 Vacuum Caps
Ever tried to maneuver through a parking lot or position your bike in a
tight space and bashed the hell out of your frame and forks? I have, so
I took a simple little vaccum cap and topped the ends of the steering
adjuster bolts. That way, when the steering is put lock to lock, it has a
nice cushion and you can maneuver without tearing your bike up.
Quote from: ungeheuer on July 03, 2011, 03:04:48 AM
[roll] Your point about not banging the bars so aggressively against the stops is a valid one. Your snotty delivery manner in making that point is somewhat less valid [thumbsdown].
ok, enough with this idea that its the riders fault for slamming the handlebars back and forth too aggressively. My bike has 400 miles on it and I've never once done this. Its simply a byproduct of a metal bolt hitting a nicely painted frame and I was curious if there was supposed to be a rubber head on the bolt to prevent this.
no big deal. all the elitists can settle down and unwind their panties. It was a serious inquiry.
Quote from: ungeheuer on July 03, 2011, 03:04:48 AM[roll] Your point about not banging the bars so aggressively against the stops is a valid one. Your snotty delivery manner in making that point is somewhat less valid [thumbsdown].
[roll] [roll] [roll] [roll]
Well
that's a matter of perspective. These 696ers get on here all day and circlejerk each other over how awesome their little bikes are and then piss and moan about completely minor things like painted steering tabs and cracks in wiring looms and broken zipties and the like. I mean really. I'm sure their fellow Starbucks patrons will not notice.
Talking crap about bad design vs. good as if they have a clue? Seems pretty snotty to me. Adapt, overcome, move on & ride safe. If they're whiny enough to go to the dealer about it they will be given the opportunity to purchase a nice Ducati branded touchup pen. That's life.
I caught the bit about the expanding tanks, old & new Monsters, my filthy scratched-up clapped-out bike, etc. that danaids deleted from his post. Whatever. Not going to get into a discussion about full trellis vs. Tupperware
again. Listen mister you can't keep a motorcycle in the wrapper forever, that is if you in fact ride the thing and don't just sit on a lawn chair and watch UV rays degrade the plastics. Wait until you drop the bike in your driveway whilst posing for pictures and the real tears will flow. Subsequent whines will be posted afterward blaming the bike I guarantee it.
Sometimes a guy has to take a stand! I shall be the one to jump on the grenade, O me brothers! w00t!!!1
Quote from: bergdoerfer on July 02, 2011, 01:36:22 PM
Is it me or do all the nouveau-Ducatisti 696 riders whine incessantly about nonissues of this ilk?
Quote from: bergdoerfer on March 22, 2009, 06:54:30 PM
I too have experience in the dirt going back to when I was 5 years old. I used to compete in peewee races on a KX60 and YZ80 and had an XL400 in high school. Quit riding after that, then about four years ago I took the MSF class, got a used SV650 and thought it was a rocket. I miss the bike actually, I now have an S2R 800cc and believe it's as fast as I'd want a bike to be. I can't imagine the power of an S4RS when the little 800 is so damn death-defying to ride as it is. I think I'll stay put and just do mods vs upgrading bikes. It's good to be satisfied.
Seems like the nouveau pot is calling the nouveau kettle
black dark.
I loved the M900 at first sight in 1993 but couldn't afford one until 1999. I've owned various Ducs since then and I still consider myself nouveau Ducatisti. Less then four years calling out riders as new? I don't think so rookie. :P
Quote from: bergdoerfer on July 03, 2011, 01:21:24 PM
[roll] [roll] [roll] [roll]
Well that's a matter of perspective. These 696ers get on here all day and circlejerk each other over how awesome their little bikes are and then piss and moan about completely minor things like painted steering tabs and cracks in wiring looms and broken zipties and the like. I mean really. I'm sure their fellow Starbucks patrons will not notice.
Talking crap about bad design vs. good as if they have a clue? Seems pretty snotty to me. Adapt, overcome, move on & ride safe. If they're whiny enough to go to the dealer about it they will be given the opportunity to purchase a nice Ducati branded touchup pen. That's life.
I caught the bit about the expanding tanks, old & new Monsters, my filthy scratched-up clapped-out bike, etc. that danaids deleted from his post. Whatever. Not going to get into a discussion about full trellis vs. Tupperware again. Listen mister you can't keep a motorcycle in the wrapper forever, that is if you in fact ride the thing and don't just sit on a lawn chair and watch UV rays degrade the plastics. Wait until you drop the bike in your driveway whilst posing for pictures and the real tears will flow. Subsequent whines will be posted afterward blaming the bike I guarantee it.
Sometimes a guy has to take a stand! I shall be the one to jump on the grenade, O me brothers! w00t!!!1
you are a total shithead
Quote from: hbliam on July 03, 2011, 01:35:51 PM
Seems like the nouveau pot is calling the nouveau kettle black dark.
I loved the M900 at first sight in 1993 but couldn't afford one until 1999. I've owned various Ducs since then and I still consider myself nouveau Ducatisti. Less then four years calling out riders as new? I don't think so rookie. :P
Wow my post from March 2009! I love it. Why did you dig to find that? I mean really, why? ???
I actually got my Ducati in 06. '06 > '11 is five years of ownership give or take. I do not consider myself new to them, especially since I took that bike apart, studied it, repaired it, maintained it, and researched it, and rode the shit out of it more times than I can count. And never once did I complain about the stop marks on the steering tabs! I think in your effort to discredit me you missed my point entirely. If you've owned several since '99(happy for you BTW) and you still consider yourself new to them then OK. Do you ride your bikes?
Quote from: NateNewThread on July 03, 2011, 02:03:40 PM
you are a total shithead
Totally. Wait a minute... so you
do got a pair!
you're doing a lot of typing and I am getting very little from it. so basically you're saying "I like monsters more than you" and "Im mad that you care about your frame chipping".
settle down dude. It was a simple question, if you dont have an answer for me then carry on and take your senseless trolling elsewhere.
Ya'll do understand that, to the entire rest of the motorcycling world, you're basically arguing over which girls bike is cooler, right?
Large rubber vacuum caps to fit over those tabs seems like a great idea! Maybe a touch of paint/ primer to keep the moisture off the exposed steel.
[popcorn]
Quote from: danaid on July 03, 2011, 03:07:30 PM
Large rubber vacuum caps to fit over those tabs seems like a great idea! Maybe a touch of paint/ primer to keep the moisture off the exposed steel.
[popcorn]
Maybe some nail polish on the exposed metal? They have this darling little boutique next to the starbucks that sells just the right colour!
What is this, winter?
Quote from: NateNewThread on July 03, 2011, 02:50:38 PM
you're doing a lot of typing and I am getting very little from it...if you dont have an answer for me then carry on and take your senseless trolling elsewhere.
Not trolling, and I did have an answer for you a few posts back. I also gave you some quick snotty advice on how to deal. You got superpissed at me for what came after and therefore missed it entirely, even though the helpful part came first in the transcript. Then you called me a shithead and Raux +1ed it. Let it be known that I didn't call you a shithead. All I did was imply you wore frilly panties.
Quote from: bergdoerfer on July 02, 2011, 01:36:22 PM
That's the way it is. Stop banging the bars from lock to lock like an ape and you won't chip the paint off the steering lock tabs. Or be a man and go find some caps for the adjustment screws if it gets your frilly panties in a bunch.
There you go, reply number 4 of this thread. Damn good advice!
Quote from: bergdoerfer on July 03, 2011, 03:13:59 PM
Not trolling, and I did have an answer for you a few posts back. I also gave you some quick snotty advice on how to deal. You got superpissed at me for what came after and therefore missed it entirely, even though the helpful part came first in the transcript. Then you called me a shithead and Raux +1ed it. Let it be known that I didn't call you a shithead. All I did was imply you wore frilly panties.
There you go, reply number 4 of this thread. Damn good advice!
No, you're just acting like one. Knock it off.
Quote from: MrIncredible on July 03, 2011, 03:09:28 PM
Maybe some nail polish on the exposed metal? They have this darling little boutique next to the starbucks that sells just the right colour!
Yippie...I'll put on my brand new riding gear and head over! :-*
Quote from: bergdoerfer on July 03, 2011, 01:21:24 PM.....These 696ers get on here all day and circlejerk each other over how awesome their little bikes are and then piss and moan about completely minor things like painted steering tabs and cracks in wiring looms and broken zipties and the like. I mean really. I'm sure their fellow Starbucks patrons will not notice.
[roll] Yet more patronising bollocks from Mr Experienced Old School Real Monster Rider. Seriously, what is your problem? Ducati Monster Forum. It includes all the incarnations. Even the new ones. I think the OP's enquiry is a reasonable one to ask - some of us like to keep their rides (and I do stress
rides) in as pristine condition as possible.
Quote from: bergdoerfer on July 03, 2011, 02:36:00 PMI actually got my Ducati in 06. '06 > '11 is five years of ownership give or take. Do you ride your bikes?
[roll] Mate if you want to start a pointless, and totally off topic dick-pulling exercise about how long you've owned and ridden motor cycles in general and Ducatis in particular... Then mine is way make the beast with two backsing bigger than yours :-*. But so what? Your juvenile
"I'm a real rider and you guys are pussy poseurs" attitude is trolling in its purest form.
Quote from: hbliam on July 03, 2011, 01:35:51 PMSeems like the nouveau pot is calling the nouveau kettle black dark.... Less then four [five.. six.. seven..] years calling out riders as new? I don't think so rookie. :P
+1
Quote from: MrIncredible on July 03, 2011, 03:16:10 PM
No, you're just acting like one. Knock it off.
+1
This is hilarious. Bunch of bike owners arguing over... what was the question? In the immortal words of Rodney King, "Can't we all just get along?".
Anyone want to just ride?
FYI,
I have an 09 696 with nearly 5,000 miles. I am the second owner and put on 4,000 miles in 1.5 seasons.
Both of my steering stops are pristine. Rub marks, but no chips or cracks.
(http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2009/1/6/128757451193042329.jpg)
Quote from: Veloce-Fino on July 03, 2011, 04:43:20 PM
FYI,
I have an 09 696 with nearly 5,000 miles. I am the second owner and put on 4,000 miles in 1.5 seasons.
Both of my steering stops are pristine. Rub marks, but no chips or cracks.
(http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2009/1/6/128757451193042329.jpg)
[roll] noob.
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
People here are taking themselves way too seriously.
To the OP: Take the advice about the Vacuum Plugs. Your bike
will get chips and scratches. It adds character. If anyone asks, you put it there while passing Rossi on the outside and your glove scratched it when you flipped him off.
To Berg: Dude, chill. You're by and large a great poster. Have a beer, relax. Go club a baby seal. Whatever makes you feel better.
Hbliam: [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
Quote from: El Matador on July 03, 2011, 04:53:55 PM
[roll] noob.
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
People here are taking themselves way too seriously.
To the OP: Take the advice about the Vacuum Plugs. Your bike will get chips and scratches. It adds character. If anyone asks, you put it there while passing Rossi on the outside and your glove scratched it when you flipped him off.
To Berg: Dude, chill. You're by and large a great poster. Have a beer, relax. Go club a baby seal. Whatever makes you feel better.
Hbliam: [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
We need a sub-forum called hissyfit where people can go and have internet slap-fights.
I can think of one person who would account for 90% of the posts... ;D
Quote from: Veloce-Fino on July 03, 2011, 04:58:55 PM
We need a sub-forum called hissyfit where people can go and have internet slap-fights.
I can think of one person who would account for 90% of the posts... ;D
Yeah but, didn't Cyrus get banned?
Quote from: MrIncredible on July 03, 2011, 05:02:36 PM
Yeah but, didn't Cyrus get banned?
Oh, we've still got one around.
Quote from: bergdoerfer on July 03, 2011, 01:21:24 PM
These 696ers get on here all day and circlejerk each other over how awesome their little bikes are and then piss and moan about completely minor things like painted steering tabs and cracks in wiring looms and broken zipties and the like. I mean really. I'm sure their fellow Starbucks patrons will not notice.
Really don't care for this generalization. I personally don't drink Starbucks, and have never come on here to whine about my 696. Pushing 12,000+ miles and loved every mile.
Quote from: bergdoerfer on July 03, 2011, 02:36:00 PM
Wow my post from March 2009! I love it. Why did you dig to find that? I mean really, why? ???
I actually got my Ducati in 06. '06 > '11 is five years of ownership give or take. I do not consider myself new to them, especially since I took that bike apart, studied it, repaired it, maintained it, and researched it, and rode the shit out of it more times than I can count. And never once did I complain about the stop marks on the steering tabs! I think in your effort to discredit me you missed my point entirely. If you've owned several since '99(happy for you BTW) and you still consider yourself new to them then OK. Do you ride your bikes?
Oh, I apologize. I didn't realize that YOU STUDIED IT. [laugh] Yep, you are the penultimate Ducatisti. You can treat all other owners like shit from henceforth.
Quote from: Veloce-Fino on July 03, 2011, 04:43:20 PM
FYI,
I have an 09 696 with nearly 5,000 miles. I am the second owner and put on 4,000 miles in 1.5 seasons.
Both of my steering stops are pristine. Rub marks, but no chips or cracks.
(http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2009/1/6/128757451193042329.jpg)
I dont know what to tell you. 400 miles and you see the picture. stop implying that it is user error.
Thanks to whoever said use plastic caps, trolls have taken this way off topic.
Quote from: NateNewThread on July 03, 2011, 06:44:56 PM
I dont know what to tell you. 400 miles and you see the picture. stop implying that it is user error.
Thanks to whoever said use plastic caps, trolls have taken this way off topic.
A TROLL took it off topic. The rest of us stood up for you....
and threadjacked it. Other then parking, it would/should be rare to hit the steering stops.
I admit, I am new to riding. Been riding dirtbikes my whole life but never motorcycles. I guess I just never would have thought that it would be unthinkable to turn the handlebars completely to the right/left when maneuvering it into my shed.
SORRY DMF!
Seriously though, it started as a serious question. I never whined, never pregnant doged. Just got the answer which is, Is just kind of happens and if you dont like it use caps to protect it. Then the trolls raised everyones BPM's
Back on topic:
I'm guessing here, but, as was said by bikepilot, stop screw banging against painted metal is the industry norm. I think this is the preferred method because if a protective cover failed (cracked and fell of) in use the steering could turn to far, possibly causing tank damage and personal injury. No body sees that stop anyway. A little dab of grease will keep the rust away.
Quote from: hbliam on July 03, 2011, 06:47:16 PMA TROLL took it off topic. The rest of us stood up for you....
+1
Quote from: NateNewThread on July 03, 2011, 07:00:51 PM....Seriously though, it started as a serious question. I never whined, never pregnant doged. Just got the answer which is, Is just kind of happens and if you dont like it use caps to protect it. Then the trolls raised everyones BPM's
One troll. The rest of us either jumped to your defence or gave an answer to your question. You may not like the answer in some cases, but dont confuse that with the ignorant generalisations of a lone Trolling contributor.
You'll find most people around here more than willing to be helpful [thumbsup].
Quote from: ungeheuer on July 03, 2011, 08:43:10 PM
+1
One troll. The rest of us either jumped to your defence or gave an answer to your question. You may not like the answer in some cases, but dont confuse that with the ignorant generalisations of a lone Trolling contributor.
You'll find most people around here more than willing to be helpful [thumbsup].
Am I being accused of trollery?
I am disappoint.
ung, just throwing me under the bus. :'(
Throw some vac caps on the steering stops and a little paint on the frame tabs and you're good to go.
Quote from: MrIncredible on July 03, 2011, 03:05:51 PM
Ya'll do understand that, to the entire rest of the motorcycling world, you're basically arguing over which girls bike is cooler, right?
Not sure this was considered helpful.
Quote from: Veloce-Fino on July 03, 2011, 10:21:25 PM
Am I being accused of trollery?
I am disappoint.
ung, just throwing me under the bus. :'(
Throw some vac caps on the steering stops and a little paint on the frame tabs and you're good to go.
No. You are not the Troll of whom I speak.
For why you ask? Are you feeling Troll-guilt? [laugh]
Quote from: ItsaDuc on July 03, 2011, 11:05:13 PM
Not sure this was considered helpful.
Just adding some perspective.
Quote from: MrIncredible on July 03, 2011, 11:36:18 PM
Just adding some perspective.
No offense, but I think that was more fuel than perspective.
this whole thread is a whole lott 'wow'....... just wow. If nothing else it's certainly an interesting display of human nature.
Oh and even though I've got two older monsters (00 and 01) and have put 100,000 km on one of them, beaten both half to death, rebuilt one and in the process of rebuilding the other, I think the non-covered steering stop is a bad design.
Wow...just wow.
Bergdorfer and Nate...take a day off.