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Title: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on August 23, 2012, 02:57:22 AM
Just started tearing into my monster, figured I would start a thread. That way, you guys get to experience the frustration and maybe a bit of fun that will come out of this. I will post some changes to my bike soon.

Me, the day I got it.
(http://i.imgur.com/nzbDi.jpg?1)
Bone stock
(http://i.imgur.com/zF5XN.jpg?1)

I'm a third generation gear head, been working with my hands my entire life. My dad and I have a shop that we use to fix, restore, and modify just about anything. The Shop is where I go to get away. It's my sanctum. It is also a complete mess right now. Helping a friend of mine rebuild his boat. There is junk every where.

"Office"
(http://i.imgur.com/L5tgl.jpg?1)

General layout:
(http://i.imgur.com/U88Gv.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/zNUst.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/GQY8M.jpg?1)

Big equipment:
(http://i.imgur.com/az5mp.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/yPud6.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/HMGCK.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/9WnIM.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/p6QbN.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Raux on August 23, 2012, 03:28:11 AM
Plans? concepts?

is it a minor mod or complete rebuild?


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on August 23, 2012, 03:40:13 AM
Not really sure how it will end up. Basically plan on changing everything except the frame and swingarm. I have some parts that need to be put on, with more on the way.


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Raux on August 23, 2012, 04:05:32 AM
 [evil] what's your budget?


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on August 23, 2012, 04:31:44 AM
Haha don't have one. Whatever it costs to make the bike look and feel the way I want it to. Doesn't mean I will throw money at it, but I know it will not be cheap. Already spent around 1500 bucks on parts and materials.


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Raux on August 23, 2012, 04:55:53 AM
sorry. WE LOVE to throw other people's money at their bikes :D

so are you tearing it down to motor and building up?
engine mods?
full paint?
are you a carbon fiber guy or like Titanium?

come on stop teasing us... 1500 in parts isn't a sneeze. what are they?


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on August 23, 2012, 05:08:10 AM
Noticed, but thats kinda what you do when you own a monster. My philosophy is change it, ride the hell out of it, then change it some more ;D. It really depends on how and where the materials are used. I can say I hate chrome.

Wanted to wait till I had photos, but since you asked.

Parts list so far:
Quat-D Exbox exhaust system.
Comp. Werkes tail kit.
CRG levers and mirrors.



Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Raux on August 23, 2012, 05:09:01 AM
you'll want to exchange that CW tail kit for another one.
Evotech or R&G racing or pretty much ANY other make. the CW is the worst of all of them.


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on August 23, 2012, 05:13:50 AM
Why so down on that kit? Had it out of the box, and I'm happy with the quality.


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Anchorism on August 23, 2012, 05:40:13 AM
Ill pitch in here for ya raux. lol Ive got the kit on my 796 and the only reason i stuck with it is cause i was too excited to put on new stuff.  There are many gaps and holes in the kit, let alone its made of cheap thin stainless steel that bends and flexes way to easily.  It causes a lot of vibration in my tail light causing wiring issues.  Heres a link to the pictures of it installed on my bike. http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=56634.msg1051711#msg1051711 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=56634.msg1051711#msg1051711)The only benefit i see in this kit is the ability to run the plate tucked farther under the tail.  Im sure with some mig welding and powdercoating it wouldnt be AS bad but still.  For the price..... totally not worth it.  I dont at all mean to shoot down part of your plans but i would totally recommend a different tail kit.


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on August 23, 2012, 05:55:51 AM
Appreciate the heads up on the tail kit. Probably still go with the Comp. Werkes kit. Really prefer the way it looks and the bare metal finish.

However, will make extra sure my wiring is water tight. Might also mock it up then TIG it together.


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Raux on August 23, 2012, 07:12:31 AM
also the corners are sharp as fell. the top ones were too close to the seat for my comfort.
the wiring issue Anchorism is having isn't moisture it's vibration, the metal is so thin and weak that the light vibrates too much causing the internals to come loose.

the TIG may help as it may support the light more?


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: MonsterHPD on August 23, 2012, 11:09:35 AM
Detroit 117,
I´m really envious about that shop  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: memper on August 23, 2012, 11:58:19 AM
Jeez with a shop like that and materials at hand (is that a CNC machine?) you can probably make almost any part you could think of. Budget could likely be very low. I say make whatever you can. Anyone can open their wallet....


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on August 23, 2012, 03:09:16 PM
Detroit 117,
I´m really envious about that shop  [thumbsup]

Jeez with a shop like that and materials at hand (is that a CNC machine?) you can probably make almost any part you could think of. Budget could likely be very low. I say make whatever you can. Anyone can open their wallet....

Thanks guys, I swear it's usually much cleaner. We have had a few major projects come in and out recently. If there is enough interest, I will make some posts about the other stuff going on in the shop.

I do plan on making some parts in house, and modifying the parts I order. Its always cool to fab up some "one off" parts for a build. First changes will be kinda simple, but things will probably get a bit crazy later on :).

Mods: Exhaust and tail kit

(http://i.imgur.com/8ijbD.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/N3Axt.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/vhjQX.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/zPzO9.jpg?1)

Really thanks again for the advise. The tail kit will more than likely come back off to get welded up. Although, I think its really not that bad. All the electrical connections are covered by heat shrink and full of dielectric grease. Also mounted the tail light on some thin rubber bushings to reduce the vibrations.


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on August 25, 2012, 10:48:35 PM
Got some Woodcraft rearsets, and installed the CRG bar end mirrors.

(http://i.imgur.com/Dqxfq.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/eD2zn.jpg?1)

I developed some flat spots in my acceleration. I was kinda of expecting that since I went to an aftermarket exhaust. Need to get a tunable ignition module. Possibly an exhaust valve emulator to?

Going to machine some custom heel guards for the rearsets. Thinking about removing the plastic tray that holds my tool roll, and making a billet piece to house the new ignition module.


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on August 26, 2012, 04:24:11 PM
Any of you guys installed a Power Commander before?

Photo:
(http://i.imgur.com/HC49A.jpg?1)

Clicky:
http://www.powercommander.com/powercommander/products/powercommanderv/powercommander_v.aspx (http://www.powercommander.com/powercommander/products/powercommanderv/powercommander_v.aspx)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Raux on August 26, 2012, 08:19:23 PM
that was a rhetorical question right?


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on August 26, 2012, 08:36:00 PM
Figured a few people have, but I haven't. Most of the bikes I work on were made before fuel injection. Just looking for a bit more info about it.


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Raux on August 26, 2012, 08:40:16 PM
It's pretty easy. finding the  right map isn't unless you have access to a dyno


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on August 26, 2012, 08:59:35 PM
So just some basic wiring then. Probably will take it to this place near Atlanta, Georgia called Ducshop. They prep Ducati motorcycles for track use, so doing a dyno tune on my bike should be no problem for them.  

Also, looking for some suggestions for places to mount the box. Only place I can think of is under the seat, where my tool kit is and I kinda do not want to get rid of that.


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Raux on August 27, 2012, 12:27:11 AM
stock tool kit fits with new PC V and O2 optimizers.


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on August 27, 2012, 11:18:16 PM
Wired up a Power Commander and plugged in an exhaust valve emulator. Also wrapped the exhaust, but I might take it back off, not sure. No more engine warning light. Just need to get it tuned and the bike should be running smooth again :). Mounted the boxes temporarily, going to make a seat tray that holds all of them. 

(http://i.imgur.com/91Dyr.jpg?1)

Also, I messed around with some designs for the heel guards. Have two so far that I would consider using, so I made some cardboard templates to get a better idea of how they would look.

(http://i.imgur.com/S8Wxg.jpg?1)

Option 1:
(http://i.imgur.com/yEAPH.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/oGjwu.jpg?1)

Option 2:
(http://i.imgur.com/AottB.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/CYX9t.jpg?1)

Think I like op. 2 better. What do you guys think?


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Anchorism on August 27, 2012, 11:29:35 PM
Definitly option 2.  Also did you happen to use silicon paint on your header wrap?  I had wrapped my header a few months back and it faded already.  Ended up having to paint it.  Also are you planning on clip ons or any changes to the bars?  Just sayin that lowering the guages cleans up the front end look pretty well  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on August 27, 2012, 11:38:15 PM
No I didn't paint the wrap. I also did it without removing the exhaust, so it is not even in one or two places. Thinking hard about taking it off and redoing it. Know of any paint that still gives the wrap a "naked" look?

I have some big plans for the front end. Will be changing the bars, headlight, and at least powder coating the stock top triple clamp.


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Anchorism on August 28, 2012, 12:23:19 AM
No I didn't paint the wrap. I also did it without removing the exhaust, so it is not even in one or two places. Thinking hard about taking it off and redoing it. Know of any paint that still gives the wrap a "naked" look?

I have some big plans for the front end. Will be changing the bars, headlight, and at least powder coating the stock top triple clamp.

Due to my location i cant get paint shipped too easily so for my wrap i just used high temp grill paint.  I plan on using black silicon paint when i get back to the states though.  Lucky for you with the QD its a pretty open header.  Mine had to be removed to get it wrapped properly.  Even still i need some more to complete the rear cylinder header.  Here is a pic before the paint mind you it faded after a few hundred miles...(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/378234_10150960687797109_2024783530_n.jpg) And here is a pic after (http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/376961_10150990534717109_1265043768_n.jpg)

So with all that machining equipment how hard would it be to fathom up a better looking rear axle slider?  I like what rizoma offers as it completes the wheel and properly covers the axle nut assembly but its sooo pricey!  Ive been trying to come up with a better design but havent found what im looking for.  CNC has a descent looking one as well.... (http://bellissimoto.com/sitebuilder/images/TP420_TP421_TP422_TP423-600x567.jpg)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on August 28, 2012, 01:43:35 AM
It wouldn't be much trouble to turn you some parts similar to those slider assemblies, but much cleaner looking. I can beat the price of the Rizoma sliders, but not the CNC ones.

I'm thinking something with no exposed hardware of the open side of the swingarm. So picture the Rizoma slider, but as a solid piece with no bolt head showing. Is that what you are after, or are you looking for something drastically different from the parts you can buy?

Reference:
(http://i.imgur.com/MdMhF.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Anchorism on August 29, 2012, 12:09:03 AM
Im looking for something similar to the rizoma one.  Dont worry about that though i wanna see some more work on the bike ha!!  ;D Its looking pretty good so far!


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Raux on August 29, 2012, 01:33:00 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/91Dyr.jpg?1)
What is the Optimizer?

My O2 optimizer are two little black boxes. did they repackage them?


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on August 29, 2012, 06:03:12 PM
Im looking for something similar to the rizoma one.  Dont worry about that though i wanna see some more work on the bike ha!!  ;D Its looking pretty good so far!
Thanks man, like the changes you made to your bike to. Those oberon bar end signals are clean looking. What do you think about them?

What is the Optimizer?

My O2 optimizer are two little black boxes. did they repackage them?
Its just the stock optimizer that came with the P.C. V .  Going to guess they repackaged it in to one box, but I am not sure. Told the guy that sold the kit to me that I was kinda short on space. He talked a lot about how much more compact the system was now than it used to be.

Changes:

Barracuda - Quadra Turn Signals
(http://i50.tinypic.com/2r7obw6.jpg)
(http://i48.tinypic.com/2vniae8.jpg)
(http://i48.tinypic.com/2cdjpjp.jpg)
(http://i50.tinypic.com/6nsgsm.jpg)

Also got the stock for my heel guards. Going to machine them out tomorrow.
(http://i46.tinypic.com/33azzpe.jpg)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Anchorism on August 29, 2012, 09:34:27 PM
Thanks man, like the changes you made to your bike to. Those oberon bar end signals are clean looking. What do you think about them?


Thanks!  And I truly Love the the oberon bar ends!  The only thing i noticed about them since ive owned them (about 2 weeks after buying the bike) is that the small screws that hold the light on the bar end adapter tend to vibrate out.  Ive used loctite on them multiple times and finally reverted to superglue. :P  BUT that being said if for some reason they do come loose they just wiggle around in place till you get home to fix it.  (Thats assuming you made sure the wiring was secured right)  [thumbsup] I guess my only complaint would be it makes my clipons look really wide but with some adjustment that could be fixed. I bought the lights from monsterparts.com..... good guys there...


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on August 30, 2012, 01:05:11 AM
Thanks!  And I truly Love the the oberon bar ends!  The only thing i noticed about them since ive owned them (about 2 weeks after buying the bike) is that the small screws that hold the light on the bar end adapter tend to vibrate out.  Ive used loctite on them multiple times and finally reverted to superglue. :P  BUT that being said if for some reason they do come loose they just wiggle around in place till you get home to fix it.  (Thats assuming you made sure the wiring was secured right)  [thumbsup] I guess my only complaint would be it makes my clipons look really wide but with some adjustment that could be fixed. I bought the lights from monsterparts.com..... good guys there...

Still have not decided on the turn signals for the front of the bike, might use those. I ordered a bunch of parts through Jeff at monster parts. He seems like a nice guy. Will probably be ordering some more parts from him soon  ;D

Update:

Not sure if you guys would be interested in the other stuff I am working on at the shop right now, but here is what we got. Let me know if you want more updates like this, or if you want to keep this strictly about my Monster.

My friends 25 foot Warlock go fast boat. We're redoing the interior, putting in a new powertrain, and some fiberglass / gel coat work.

Boat:
(http://i.imgur.com/ErOik.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/I81bH.jpg?1)

Engine:
(http://i.imgur.com/esD1M.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/pBknx.jpg?1)

These awesome offset rockers from Crower.
(http://i.imgur.com/hTaWq.jpg?1)

CNC ported intake runners. The brass tube is the valve guide.
(http://i.imgur.com/OzYR4.jpg?1)

To top it off.  [evil]
(http://i.imgur.com/9NwTD.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Duck-Stew on August 30, 2012, 11:38:11 AM
Wicked blown BBC...  [evil]


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on August 31, 2012, 04:30:15 AM
Wicked blown BBC...  [evil]
Yeah it is, we are shooting for 1200 HP and around 115 MPH. no speed limit on the water.  8)


Monster update:
Got the heel guards machined. just need to finish deburring them and bolt them on.

Computer stuff:
(http://i.imgur.com/rHW8V.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/EpFeW.jpg?1)

Machine stuff:
(http://i.imgur.com/DS1z4.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/31zBG.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/9Bjr9.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/YNmbN.jpg?1)

Almost finished product:
(http://i.imgur.com/XTvhi.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on August 31, 2012, 10:25:41 PM
Found some time to throw these on. Might make a few alterations to the design and cut another set. Not sure if I like them silver, considering getting them anodized black. What do you guys think?

Photos:
(http://i.imgur.com/ENSN6.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/wkTxK.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: duke8 on September 02, 2012, 04:58:36 PM
Wish I had one of those  ;D

I reckon black for the heel guards


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on September 05, 2012, 12:47:20 AM
Wish I had one of those  ;D

I reckon black for the heel guards

Yeah I am thinking they would look better black. I do small production runs sometimes. If you want something cut let me know and, I will see if I can help you out. [thumbsup]

Been busy the last few days, so I haven't gotten a chance to post anything until now.

Changes:
Cut down my chain guard. Took all of five mins, and I think really improves the look of the "ugly side" of the SSA. Besides, its only a $30.00 part shipped, so its not a big deal to change back. 

Before:
(http://i.imgur.com/S2z03.jpg?1)

After:
(http://i.imgur.com/PDDWq.jpg?1)

Also, removed the terrible looking charcoal filter, and fitted a Rizoma line cover. Really like how much more of the engine you can see now :).

useless emissions control stuff:
(http://i.imgur.com/VJQ7r.jpg?1)

Line cover:
(http://i.imgur.com/ryWYS.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/0StgZ.jpg?1)


Serious Question:
Since I removed the filter I had to cap one of the two vent tubes that come out of the top of my fuel tank. I noticed my tank now makes quite a loud hissing sound after a ride, which means I am building a decent amount of pressure in there. Will this cause any issues later on? Should I have another vent tube that just runs to the underside of the engine?


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Raux on September 05, 2012, 01:10:19 AM
T joint the two tubes from the tank filler together.


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on September 05, 2012, 01:13:15 AM
Good idea. Thanks!


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Raux on September 05, 2012, 01:15:15 AM
did you put bolts or caps on the throttle bodies? I suggest bolts as the caps tend to age quickly and leak


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on September 05, 2012, 01:22:31 AM
Bolts, I never liked using those rubber caps so I avoid them when I can.


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on September 05, 2012, 08:14:21 PM
Waiting on some parts for my Monster, so I am trying to keep the thread interesting for you guys.  ;D

Shop Update:

Had an interesting failure on one of my dad's bikes. Heat shield on his exhaust cracked at the weld. Turns out we are not the only ones to have this problem. Vance and Hines sent us a new pipe free of charge, but I decided to weld the old one instead.

Bike:
(http://i.imgur.com/OTBH7.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/5tQ5z.jpg?1)

Old pipe:
(http://i.imgur.com/hr6VP.jpg?1)

Crack:
(http://i.imgur.com/hLXqG.jpg?1)

Weld:
(http://i.imgur.com/ZM3BQ.jpg?1)

Spare parts:
(http://i.imgur.com/6Ctxt.jpg?1)

Got some more work done on my friend's boat. Set the valves, port matched the intake runners, and made an alternator bracket / oil pump spacer that will actually clear the blower pulley system.

Valves and intake
(http://i.imgur.com/JPdFi.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/RdN6F.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/oE95T.jpg?1)

Alt. Bracket:
(http://i.imgur.com/zMyJb.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/uXaTo.jpg?1)

Oil pump spacer:
(http://i.imgur.com/BEwZn.jpg?1)

Last, got some wheels and tires for an old muscle car I am building.

(http://i.imgur.com/FjV7K.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on September 10, 2012, 06:59:43 PM
Monster update:

It was time for a new rear tire, so I had a good excuse to change out my rear axle nut:

(http://i.imgur.com/2bpt9.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/EoqLv.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/lMZeI.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/0QAII.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/l7Pri.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/NYRhx.jpg?1)

Installed a crank case breather:
(http://i.imgur.com/Z5uuh.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/54jGz.jpg?1)

Also got a belly pan and a head light that will go on shortly:
(http://i.imgur.com/VJiYe.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/iPNkH.jpg?1)



Does anyone know where I can get some expanded metal mesh that matches the air intakes in the fuel tank covers? Can't seem to find it.  ???

Reference:
(http://i.imgur.com/VQWHj.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Raux on September 10, 2012, 08:49:42 PM
Tpo has screen


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on September 10, 2012, 08:50:32 PM
Tpo?

Edit: found what you were talking about. Not what I am looking for. Need to find some metal mesh that matches the OEM screen in my tank covers.


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Raux on September 10, 2012, 09:15:27 PM
Tpo?

Edit: found what you were talking about. Not what I am looking for. Need to find some metal mesh that matches the OEM screen in my tank covers.

I've been thinking about replacing the stock mesh with TPOs.


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on September 10, 2012, 09:35:47 PM
There are lots of different options if you are just wanting to change out the mesh in your tank covers.
(http://i.imgur.com/jOPM1.jpg?1)

After I got the belly pan. I had an idea to fit mesh in the ducts formed in it. Don't want two different screen designs on the bike. So, I either need to find some that matches or change the mesh on the bike. The mesh in the tank covers is set into the black plastic bezels. Which means changing it wouldn't be too easy.

Although, the more I look at the screen options I have. The more I want to change them.  ;D

Still, if anyone knows where I can find some OEM style metal mesh. Please let me know.


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Raux on September 10, 2012, 09:39:12 PM
If you look how they are in the bezels, it's just sticky tape.


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on September 10, 2012, 09:46:15 PM
Is that how yours is held in?  ???

I have had my tank covers off a few times and I am sure that the metal screens aren't held in with tape.


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on September 10, 2012, 09:57:31 PM
Found a photo. You can see where the screen is actually inlaid into the black plastic.

(http://i.imgur.com/3gmuJ.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Raux on September 10, 2012, 11:08:55 PM
I'll double check mine. I have both stock and a DP 80's skin. They may be different.


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: jaxduc on September 11, 2012, 04:16:10 AM
susssscribed
just found this thread
great work Detroit117
i WISH i had a shop like that, I would never leave


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Tangerine Dream on September 11, 2012, 08:10:42 PM
I like your style Detroit117  ;D

"Check out my new belly pan, but don't pay no attention to that badass Vette in the background"  8)

 [popcorn]


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: jaxduc on September 11, 2012, 08:36:11 PM
"Check out my new belly pan, but don't pay no attention to that badass Vette in the background"  8)
[clap]


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: freeclimbmtb on September 12, 2012, 04:39:03 AM
Hey when youve got some spare time, can you machine me a new clutch side engine case so I can rock a dry clutch? 

(Subscribed.  [drool])


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on September 12, 2012, 09:11:41 PM
I'll double check mine. I have both stock and a DP 80's skin. They may be different.
No reason for you to pull your tank skins off. Good chance there are variations in the way the mesh is held from OEM to aftermarket.

susssscribed
just found this thread
great work Detroit117
i WISH i had a shop like that, I would never leave
Thanks! Spend almost all my free time there. Have even slept there a few times. (PTFO in the office chair ;D)

I like your style Detroit117  ;D
"Check out my new belly pan, but don't pay no attention to that badass Vette in the background"  8)
 [popcorn]
[clap]

That's my father's car, was his only car for most of the 70s. Now has modern suspension, steering, and brakes. Plus, a 350 small block that makes just over 400 HP.  [evil]
We build two kinds of projects at our shop: stuff to sell and "keepers". That is one of his keepers. I'll put up some photos when I get a chance.

Hey when youve got some spare time, can you machine me a new clutch side engine case so I can rock a dry clutch? 
Probably, but you could more than likely buy one cheaper than I could cut one. If you are really interested I can do a cost estimate for you.


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on September 12, 2012, 09:36:45 PM
Bike update:

Time for an oil change, so I picked up A FLO oil filter. Means I never have to buy another oil filter for my bike, but more importantly It adds some billet bling to my engine.  :)
(http://i.imgur.com/z5aDc.jpg?1)

Repainted the body work. Had to since I wanted to change the stickers on the tank covers and they are set into the clear coat. [bang] Decided to do the front fender and the rear seat cowl as well, to take care of the scratches and rock chips my bike got over the last 15,000 miles.
(http://i.imgur.com/msKPs.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/C2xaB.jpg?1)

Shop update:

Made a coolant crossover so I can run an aux. waterpump, and the rest of the alternator bracket. If you look under the flywheel there is an aluminum arm that a turnbuckle will push against to put tension on the belt.
(http://i.imgur.com/Zbl14.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/NTNRj.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/ntwW9.jpg?1)

Better look at the spine in the middle of the assembly the will direct fluid to either side of the block.
(http://i.imgur.com/On7mR.jpg?1)

Other stuff:

Drag bike that belongs to a buddy of mine that competes in the ADRL. Not really my thing, but you can not beat 0-100 in about a second  ;D
(http://i.imgur.com/84nwq.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/BqfSp.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/UzasH.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: freeclimbmtb on September 13, 2012, 02:46:06 AM
Probably, but you could more than likely buy one cheaper than I could cut one. If you are really interested I can do a cost estimate for you.

Nah, thats ok.  If I find myself with an extry $4,000 that Im having trouble spending Im planning to get the 848 dryclutch conversion kit and retro fit it to the 796.  (And no one start with me...I KNOW it doest fit...yet)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: jaxduc on September 13, 2012, 12:02:08 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/z5aDc.jpg?1)
THIS.
more info on this please?


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: memper on September 13, 2012, 01:12:39 PM
google is your friend...https://www.denniskirk.com/stainless-steel-reusable-spin-on-oil-filter.p305881.prd (https://www.denniskirk.com/stainless-steel-reusable-spin-on-oil-filter.p305881.prd)

but dad gum! That thing really hangs out dont it?


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on September 13, 2012, 07:44:43 PM
Nah, thats ok.  If I find myself with an extry $4,000 that Im having trouble spending Im planning to get the 848 dryclutch conversion kit and retro fit it to the 796.  (And no one start with me...I KNOW it doest fit...yet)
Me and my machines could make it fit.  ;D

THIS.more info on this please?

google is your friend...https://www.denniskirk.com/stainless-steel-reusable-spin-on-oil-filter.p305881.prd (https://www.denniskirk.com/stainless-steel-reusable-spin-on-oil-filter.p305881.prd)
but dad gum! That thing really hangs out dont it?

The link that Memper put up tells you everything you need to know. Basically, you just clean out the filter cartridge instead of replacing the filter. The photos don't do it justice. Machine work and finish on the part is very nice.

The filter looks like it hangs down so far because of the angle of the photo. It is a bit longer than a regular filter, but just barely.

Pic gives you a better look at it:
(http://i.imgur.com/kry8U.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: jaxduc on September 13, 2012, 09:13:12 PM
it just looks so cool on the bike. That will be the next thing I buy for my bike.


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Raux on September 13, 2012, 09:14:55 PM
It would cooler anodized or powdercoated or ceramic coated black


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on September 13, 2012, 09:34:22 PM
it just looks so cool on the bike. That will be the next thing I buy for my bike.

Form and function, gets a thumbs up from me. Pick one up for your next oil change. Then you can justify it to yourself by thinking you would of had to shell out some cash for a filter anyway.  ;D

It would cooler anodized or powdercoated or ceramic coated black

Thought about that, but it would look too much like a normal filter then. Kinda dig the way it is shaped, and a dark color would hide that.
....... but that's just my opinion.  :)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: freeclimbmtb on September 14, 2012, 03:14:44 AM
Me and my machines could make it fit.  ;D

http://motowheels.com/i-7579500-ducati-848-dry-slipper-clutch-conversion-kit.html (http://motowheels.com/i-7579500-ducati-848-dry-slipper-clutch-conversion-kit.html)

Looks like its come down in price a touch...still wont fit the monsters though, not that you have to worry about that with a 1100DS motor  [thumbsup]

I know theres motor work involved in getting the kit to work with the small case motors, as I understand, the case cover works, but theres an issue with the output shaft...or something like that...

Some day.


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: jaxduc on September 14, 2012, 05:24:47 AM
It would cooler anodized or powdercoated or ceramic coated black
Got to agree with Detroit here. Sorry Raux, I really like the un-painted look.


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on September 14, 2012, 10:23:23 PM
http://motowheels.com/i-7579500-ducati-848-dry-slipper-clutch-conversion-kit.html (http://motowheels.com/i-7579500-ducati-848-dry-slipper-clutch-conversion-kit.html)

Looks like its come down in price a touch...still wont fit the monsters though, not that you have to worry about that with a 1100DS motor  [thumbsup] I know theres motor work involved in getting the kit to work with the small case motors, as I understand, the case cover works, but theres an issue with the output shaft...or something like that...Some day.
Two big reasons I chose my bike: SSA and Dry Clutch.  ;D

Just took a quick look into it, but looks like all you would need besides the kit is a custom shaft. However between: machining, heat treating, and nitriding that would be a stupid expesive part. sorry man, wish I had better news for you :(

Reference:
(http://i.imgur.com/8jPfR.jpg?1)

Monster update:

Picked up an open front sprocket cover. Going for a very skeletal look with my bike. I want everything to open and visible. Can not wait to ditch the air box.
I get chain grease on my boot after I clean my chain now.  [laugh]
(http://i.imgur.com/ukGhk.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/hHlTF.jpg?1)

Billet oil fill cap. Not a big deal, but I love little details like this. Cheap and easy to install.
(http://i.imgur.com/mniOa.jpg?1)

Shop update: My other bikes are leaking everywhere

Internals of the front master cylinder on my Norton failed awhile ago [puke]. Also, I am dumb, brake fluid eats powder coat. Have a new one ordered.
(http://i.imgur.com/Tpynr.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/6lq5Y.jpg?1)

Aprilia has an oil leak at one of the valve cover bolts. New bolt gasket on the way.  

(http://i.imgur.com/TKriz.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/UIFfE.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: freeclimbmtb on September 16, 2012, 03:38:11 AM
Two big reasons I chose my bike: SSA and Dry Clutch.  ;D

Just took a quick look into it, but looks like all you would need besides the kit is a custom shaft. However between: machining, heat treating, and nitriding that would be a stupid expesive part. sorry man, wish I had better news for you :(

Reference:
(http://i.imgur.com/8jPfR.jpg?1)

Yep, thats as far into the research as I got too.  I interned at Smith & Wesson for a summer, I wonder if I can sneak in a favor and get the heat treat done there... (sorry to thead jack, but whats this nitriding step you speak of?)  Don't get me wrong, I'm super happy with the 796, Its got the SSS, and keeps me under the liter mark so I can afford the insurance, and I'm so invested in mine already that throwing another $3000 at it is just another step of the game, just a big step thatll wait a few years.


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on September 17, 2012, 09:51:10 PM
Whats this nitriding step you speak of?
No big.

Nitriding is a case hardening process, where nitrogen in defused into a metal to create a wear surface. I also forgot about the grinding step. When we have done custom shafts before there were four steps: Machining, Heat treating to relieve stress, Nitriding to case harden, and grinding to bring the dimensions into tolerance.

By the way, since you interned there, can you get Smith & Wesson products on the cheap? Because, they make a few thing I would like to get my hands on.  ;D


Bike update:

Got some Woodcraft clip ons with zero rise, and mounted my CRG shorty levers. I can already feel the pain in my arms, hands, and back [laugh]. Also, made some mock-up brackets out of sheet stock for my gauge pack. I will machining some out of billet after I have the new headlight mounted.
(http://i.imgur.com/yZnvu.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/OaIaz.jpg?1)

Also, got a seat with some cool red stitching and two texture vinyl. Much more comfortable than the OEM seat.  [Dolph]
(http://i.imgur.com/wDSj5.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/JynUj.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/JnI0n.jpg?1)


Shop update:

Fixed the oil leak in the Aprilia SXV, so I can get back to riding the hell out of it.
(http://i.imgur.com/1vCHK.jpg?1)

Norton's master cylinder is dissembled. Hard parts are sent off for powder coat, and a new rebuild kit / throttle cable are on the way.
(http://i.imgur.com/00URt.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/ZMd94.jpg?1)



Has anyone here ever driven the handle bar bushing out of the stock triple clamp before? Thinking about doing it, and want to know how much trouble I am in for.

Reference:
(http://i.imgur.com/rrj3M.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Anchorism on September 17, 2012, 10:46:54 PM
I have and Raux has.  Super easy as long as you use a press. Plus it's a really handy location for two 12v sockets!!! Here's the link to what mine looks like with it done.  You can see them in my reply down the page a little.  Id post a pic but I'm on my phone right now...
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=59102.msg1092755#msg1092755 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=59102.msg1092755#msg1092755)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on September 17, 2012, 11:00:53 PM
I have and Raux has.  Super easy as long as you use a press. Plus it's a really handy location for two 12v sockets!!! Here's the link to what mine looks like with it done.  You can see them in my reply down the page a little.  Id post a pic but I'm on my phone right now...
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=59102.msg1092755#msg1092755 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=59102.msg1092755#msg1092755)

Thanks man, we have a press over at the shop so no worries. Did you have to put some heat to the triple clamp, or did you press them out cold?  


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Raux on September 17, 2012, 11:44:46 PM
I pressed them out cold. and btw press up. the bottom has a lip

I'd like to see what you come up with for the gauge bracket

it looks like you have enough room to put the clipons above the triple. the stock gull wing triples really put those low. i have a flat aftermarket triple with the same clipons below it.

As far as the Comfort seat. I know it seems more comfortable for your butt, but it raises your butt up about an inch, further increases the weight on your wrists. go back to the stock seat and you will feel less pressure on your arms.


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Anchorism on September 18, 2012, 02:51:00 AM
Raux is spot on as he is the one who told me how to do it. Lol. 


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: freeclimbmtb on September 18, 2012, 07:48:07 AM
Unfortunately, I lost my discount when I stopped my internship.  Your not the first one to ask.


As for your top triple, I have a black speedymoto top triple that will be going up for sale in a few months if your interested...Im going to SBK forks and an IMA complete triple setup, so I have no need for the speedymoto piece.


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on September 20, 2012, 11:25:27 PM
I pressed them out cold. and btw press up. the bottom has a lip

I'd like to see what you come up with for the gauge bracket

it looks like you have enough room to put the clipons above the triple. the stock gull wing triples really put those low. i have a flat aftermarket triple with the same clipons below it.

As far as the Comfort seat. I know it seems more comfortable for your butt, but it raises your butt up about an inch, further increases the weight on your wrists. go back to the stock seat and you will feel less pressure on your arms.

Thanks for the tips, and I will post some photos of the gauge pack bracket when I get it done.

I really like the clip ons mounted that low with the stock top triple. I am willing to sacrifice some comfort to get the look I want.

The seat works for me. I have lots of upper body strength and a boney back side  [laugh]. So more pressure on my arms and extra padding for my butt is a good thing.

Raux is spot on as he is the one who told me how to do it. Lol. 

Yeah, pretty sure he knows what he is talking about.  :)

Unfortunately, I lost my discount when I stopped my internship.  Your not the first one to ask.

As for your top triple, I have a black speedymoto top triple that will be going up for sale in a few months if your interested...Im going to SBK forks and an IMA complete triple setup, so I have no need for the speedymoto piece.

Dang, worth a shot.  ;D

I am just planning on messing with the stock clamps for right now. Appreciate the offer though. Later, I plan on designing my own triple clamp system. Put up a thread when you get your IMA clamps installed. I would like to see them.


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on September 20, 2012, 11:25:49 PM
Monster update:
Have a bunch of parts ordered, and they should show up soon.

Also, dropped my exhaust and re-wrapped it. The wrap is nice and even now.
(http://i.imgur.com/XKUAf.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/skLEb.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/PLedp.jpg?1)

Norton update:

Installed a new throttle cable. (which involves taking off the tank and dissembling both carbs  [bang])
(http://i.imgur.com/wBwpo.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/5LmqS.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/9KHFg.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/l7r5H.jpg?1)

Internal bits for the Amal carbs
(http://i.imgur.com/W5L7x.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/3gyME.jpg?1)

Rebuilt switches and throttle tube housing.
(http://i.imgur.com/XE6qr.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: freeclimbmtb on September 21, 2012, 02:55:46 AM
I am just planning on messing with the stock clamps for right now. Appreciate the offer though. Later, I plan on designing my own triple clamp system. Put up a thread when you get your IMA clamps installed. I would like to see them.

Will do.  Ive got a build thread started, but I got the forks way before I was ready to start tearing into it, so it's going to be a much slower thread than the one youve got here...(which is a fine thread Ill add, I always look forward to your updates)  Maybe Ill take a page out of your book and throw some unrelated projects in the mix...in my case the CJ-7 frame up and some scuba gear stuff...

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=58777.msg1085811#msg1085811 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=58777.msg1085811#msg1085811)

Should have some updates next week as parts are in the mail.  Thats a sharp looking tank on the Norton btw..


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on September 21, 2012, 09:28:57 PM
Will do.  Ive got a build thread started, but I got the forks way before I was ready to start tearing into it, so it's going to be a much slower thread than the one youve got here...(which is a fine thread Ill add, I always look forward to your updates)  Maybe Ill take a page out of your book and throw some unrelated projects in the mix...in my case the CJ-7 frame up and some scuba gear stuff...

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=58777.msg1085811#msg1085811 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=58777.msg1085811#msg1085811)

Should have some updates next week as parts are in the mail.  Thats a sharp looking tank on the Norton btw..


Just checked out your thread, looking forward to those updates next week. I think its a good idea to throw random stuff into build threads. Keeps things interesting and lets people know what else you have in the works.

Thanks its my design, but I can't take credit for the paint work. A friend of mine did the tape layout and fade. I can only manage solid color and stripes.

Decent photo:
(http://i.imgur.com/Zqne1.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on September 21, 2012, 09:49:21 PM
Shop update:

Rebuild, beefed up, and painted a Mopar 4-speed transmission for a old muscle car I am building:

Housings after they got hot tanked.
(http://i.imgur.com/Jaagw.jpg?1)

Cluster, imput, and output shafts.
(http://i.imgur.com/zUQSs.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/SGucD.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/5287b.jpg?1)
installed.
(http://i.imgur.com/EyaRP.jpg?1)

New collar for my throw out bearing.
(http://i.imgur.com/14OgG.jpg?1)

Putting the housings together.
(http://i.imgur.com/OBh0F.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/ZU1tW.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/NHcrl.jpg?1)

Paint.
(http://i.imgur.com/lvZ7I.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/N6Ry2.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/rXBqj.jpg?1)

Bell housing
(http://i.imgur.com/9PgKN.jpg?1)

Random stuff that was in my friend's shop I was working at:
(http://i.imgur.com/mVIE7.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/msJZl.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/UagE5.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: freeclimbmtb on September 23, 2012, 04:02:03 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/EyaRP.jpg?1)


STOP!!!!

I could be wrong, but I worked as a teardown bi*ch in a tranny shop for a few summers...double check youve got the left hand slider in there right...looks like your not gonna be able to catch reverse (not to mention having a fork alignment issue).



EDIT:

My bad.  I just remembered the reverse idler sides on the intermediate shaft...not a sync'd gear. 

As you were! :D


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on September 24, 2012, 09:50:51 PM
STOP!!!!

I could be wrong, but I worked as a teardown bi*ch in a tranny shop for a few summers...double check youve got the left hand slider in there right...looks like your not gonna be able to catch reverse (not to mention having a fork alignment issue).

EDIT:
My bad.  I just remembered the reverse idler sides on the intermediate shaft...not a sync'd gear. 
As you were! :D

You are actually right. I made a mistake, but I caught it before I sealed up the transmission. Also uploaded the wrong photo.  :-[

This is how it should look and this is how I have it now:
(http://i.imgur.com/6LOmF.jpg?1)

The car the trans. is going in: .69 Dodge Charger
(http://i.imgur.com/fYzry.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/pmcuH.jpg?1)

Bike update:

Finally have some parts showing up.

*clank clank clank clank clank*  ;D
(http://i.imgur.com/4QRao.jpg?1)


Stupid Question
Can anyone tell my why you have to install the clutch pressure plate in a specific position? Guessing it might have something to do with how the assembly is balanced, but I would like to know for sure. Thinking about cutting my own pressure plate later on.

Reference:
Install the pressure plate (12) so that the mark on the end of one of the clutch spring posts is aligned with the marks on the corresponding pressure plate hole, indicated by the triangle.
(http://i.imgur.com/sBLsg.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on September 24, 2012, 09:55:12 PM
Almost forgot. Got around to taking some photos of the vette for you guys.

Exterior:
(http://i.imgur.com/607n3.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/4Ao1s.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/ka5Sf.jpg?1)

Interior:
(http://i.imgur.com/mBJJZ.jpg?1)

Engine:
(http://i.imgur.com/ymAqs.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/02EiW.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Duck-Stew on September 25, 2012, 01:48:19 PM
The alignment of the clutch pressure plate has to do with the alignment of the teeth that engage the hub.  Slipper clutches do without the alignment as they have no teeth to engage the hub.

Oh, and nice Charger project!  [evil]  4-speed!!!!


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Tangerine Dream on September 25, 2012, 08:27:12 PM
Sweet Vette

Love the side pipes  8)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: ccm900 on September 28, 2012, 11:57:01 AM
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Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on September 29, 2012, 08:59:59 PM
The alignment of the clutch pressure plate has to do with the alignment of the teeth that engage the hub.  Slipper clutches do without the alignment as they have no teeth to engage the hub.

Oh, and nice Charger project!  [evil]  4-speed!!!!
Got it thanks for the information.

The Charger going to be a pavement eating resto mod when I get through with it.  Look more or less stock, but with modern running equipment and around 600 HP [evil]

Sweet Vette.   
Love the side pipes  8)
My dad will be happy to hear that his car is attracting some attention.  :)

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Monster update:

Made some mock up brackets to hold the headlight. Figured out the front turn signals. I wired up my running lights to function as my turn signals. Really happy with how it turned out.

Will make a different set of brackets before its all said and done. Just trying to get all the parts where I want them and working at the moment.

 ;D

Headlight:
(http://i.imgur.com/G23bn.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/I6idh.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/K0rSF.jpg?1)

Bracket:
(http://i.imgur.com/ATRnL.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/iy4EN.jpg?1)

Turn Signal Demo (Apoligies for the quality, Headlight is really bright):
Turn signal Demo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMQcLcyi9Tg&feature=youtu.be#)

I doubt the signals are very visible, but I could care less. Just enough to make my bike legal - [leo]


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on September 29, 2012, 09:12:20 PM
Shop update:

My Norton is all fixed up:

Recap -  replaced throttle cable, rebuilt mastercylinder and RH switches, New Oury grips
(http://i.imgur.com/QPGpq.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/O4F6h.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/CUPVO.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/WP4wB.jpg?1)

Got some more stuff done on the blower motor:

Alternator, oil pump, oil thermostat, accumulator, and filter:
(http://i.imgur.com/CVN1s.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/QbETg.jpg?1)

Water / fuel pump:
(http://i.imgur.com/JAEpc.jpg?1)

Machined some intake spacers:
(http://i.imgur.com/aF7as.jpg?1)

Painted the valve covers:
(http://i.imgur.com/XTKiv.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on October 02, 2012, 08:26:50 PM
Monster update:

Got a cover, so I will stop putting my foot in my clutch.  [Dolph]

(http://i.imgur.com/OO1Tu.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/Rdpzp.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/yHcJg.jpg?1)

Cut the old headlight brackets off my lower triple. Going to take the front end apart and have both clamps powder coated.

Before:
(http://i.imgur.com/1jbkW.jpg?1)

After:
(http://i.imgur.com/gvvd3.jpg?1)

Scrap:
(http://i.imgur.com/AjvaH.jpg?1)


Help me make up my mind. ???

Looking for suggestions for a quick change rear sprocket / carrier and hub setup.

Kinda hate the (flower)shape of the stock hub on the rear sprocket. Also, some first hand accounts on different sprocket ratios would be very helpful. Did you gear your bike up or down? How different does your bike ride? Let me know.

Something like this:
(http://i.imgur.com/JHcPU.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Nottsbiker on October 03, 2012, 04:33:48 AM
Great thread [thumbsup]

You live my life post big national lottery win  ;D


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: dbran1949 on October 03, 2012, 06:13:35 AM
Monster update:

Did you gear your bike up or down? How different does your bike ride? Let me know.

Did the standard drop the front sprocket down 1 tooth to 14 on my 07 S4RS (stock is 15/43), since the bike was actually drag limited on top speed. The result with the addition of termis and the DP ECU is that the front wheel is "very light" under acceleration in the first three gears. I have heard that there can be some clearance issues with changing the rear sprocket. If I had a choice I would bring the rear up a tooth or two and leave the front alone for a slightly less wheel lifting gear ratio

While contemplating the gear change I developed this quick excel spreadsheet to aid in sprocket selection. Sorted by ratio

Front   Rear   Ratio
15   38   2.533
15   39   2.600
15   40   2.667
14   38   2.714
15   41   2.733
14   39   2.786
15   42   2.800
14   40   2.857
15   43   2.867
14   41   2.929
15   44   2.933
15   45   3.000
14   42   3.000
15   46   3.067
14   43   3.071
15   47   3.133
14   44   3.143
15   48   3.200
14   45   3.214
15   49   3.267
14   46   3.286
15   50   3.333
14   47   3.357
14   48   3.429
14   49   3.500
14   50   3.571




Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: freeclimbmtb on October 03, 2012, 07:28:50 AM
Front   Rear   Ratio
15   38   2.533
15   39   2.600
15   40   2.667
14   38   2.714
15   41   2.733
14   39   2.786
15   42   2.800
14   40   2.857
15   43   2.867
14   41   2.929
15   44   2.933
15   45   3.000
14   42   3.000
15   46   3.067
14   43   3.071
15   47   3.133
14   44   3.143
15   48   3.200
14   45   3.214
15   49   3.267
14   46   3.286
15   50   3.333
14   47   3.357
14   48   3.429
14   49   3.500
14   50   3.571

Nerd.

(I like your style.  Book marking this one... [thumbsup])


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: DucHead on October 03, 2012, 05:52:40 PM
I have that AEM Factory carrier/sprocket combo.  Nice bit of kit, as Geoff would say.

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d147/pompino/DSCN2559.jpg)

Jeez, that's an old pic.


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on October 04, 2012, 12:08:37 AM
Great thread [thumbsup]
You live my life post big national lottery win  ;D
Thanks! Ha ha, the things I could build if money was no object.  [evil]

Did the standard drop the front sprocket down 1 tooth to 14 on my 07 S4RS (stock is 15/43), since the bike was actually drag limited on top speed. The result with the addition of termis and the DP ECU is that the front wheel is "very light" under acceleration in the first three gears. I have heard that there can be some clearance issues with changing the rear sprocket. If I had a choice I would bring the rear up a tooth or two and leave the front alone for a slightly less wheel lifting gear ratio

While contemplating the gear change I developed this quick excel spreadsheet to aid in sprocket selection. Sorted by ratio
Major thanks for the info.  :)

I have that AEM Factory carrier/sprocket combo.  Nice bit of kit, as Geoff would say.

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d147/pompino/DSCN2559.jpg)

Jeez, that's an old pic.
Thats the setup I am leaning towards. If I could trouble you for a close up shot that would be invaluable.

Sharp looking bike. Looks like you put a ton of work into to it.

Noob question - Who is Geoff?


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on October 04, 2012, 12:48:43 AM
Shop Update:

Picked up some new tires, and gave my track bike a good once over. Track day soon.

Bike: 618cc with a few other mods. Nothing special, but I love the bike and it forgives me when I crash it.  ;D
(http://i.imgur.com/uXlfY.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/BbeGk.jpg?1)

Got a new project in the shop.

Friend had a bad bit of luck when a spaced out driver backed over his bike. bike "totaled" so it is time for a major rebuild.

What the bike looks like now:
(http://i.imgur.com/mDgL5.jpg?1)

Already have a ton of parts on hand.

Fuel tank:
(http://i.imgur.com/FSOga.jpg?1)

Fender and bags:
(http://i.imgur.com/DjJcf.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/oRvHf.jpg?1)

Rake kit:
(http://i.imgur.com/i16Ct.jpg?1)

Exhaust:
(http://i.imgur.com/e3Q1E.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/h1aIL.jpg?1)

Best directions I have ever gotten.  [laugh]
(http://i.imgur.com/iUPod.jpg?1)

Going for something like this:
(http://i.imgur.com/Vr0Le.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/FBNkJ.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Slide Panda on October 04, 2012, 05:12:44 AM
Nice step E.



Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: DucHead on October 04, 2012, 03:51:52 PM

Thats the setup I am leaning towards. If I could trouble you for a close up shot that would be invaluable.

Sharp looking bike. Looks like you put a ton of work into to it.

Noob question - Who is Geoff?

Thanks!  I don't have any close-ups, but I'll shoot a few tonight.

Geoff = Geoffduc.  He's a member from the other side of the pond.   [thumbsup]   [Dolph]   [beer]


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: jaxduc on October 04, 2012, 06:00:34 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/iUPod.jpg?1)
who is this guy?
more directions should be written like this.
its so unprofessionally professional


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on October 05, 2012, 03:06:32 AM
Thanks!  I don't have any close-ups, but I'll shoot a few tonight.
Much appreciated.  :)



Nice step E.
Step E - F**k you  [laugh]

who is this guy?
more directions should be written like this.
its so unprofessionally professional
John Shope, got to meet him. He is a jerk really cool guy after you talk to him for a bit.

Link:
http://www.sinisterindustries.com/About-Us/John-Shope.asp (http://www.sinisterindustries.com/About-Us/John-Shope.asp)

One of his choppers:
(http://i.imgur.com/eT6oM.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: DucHead on October 05, 2012, 05:14:53 AM
Much appreciated.  :)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d147/pompino/PA040060.jpg)
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d147/pompino/PA040062-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on October 07, 2012, 11:34:23 PM
Photos.....

Thats what I was looking for. Thanks again!

Parts ordered. Going with that hub ;D


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on October 08, 2012, 12:10:02 AM
Monster update:

Picked up some grips from Driven Racing and a throttle tube from Barracuda Moto. Shortened and rebuilt my handle bars.

New parts:
(http://i.imgur.com/2wof0.jpg?1)

Turned down the handle bars:
(http://i.imgur.com/eCjdy.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/nMCj2.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/3drOH.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/DGXVZ.jpg?1)

Deburred the ends:
(http://i.imgur.com/usZAo.jpg?1)

Scrap:
(http://i.imgur.com/hmRrY.jpg?1)

Drilled new locator holes for the switches and throttle tube housing:
(http://i.imgur.com/Fv3ti.jpg?1)

Test fit:
(http://i.imgur.com/xWFCl.jpg?1)

Throttle tube installed:
(http://i.imgur.com/qozEo.jpg?1)

Grips on and bar controls back together:
(http://i.imgur.com/phhxT.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/F9a7L.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/H4Ibh.jpg?1)

Flipped the throttle and rerouted the cable / wires / brake lines for a cleaner look:
(http://i.imgur.com/HV14t.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/FlONV.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/deuo4.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/AAnIN.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on October 08, 2012, 12:16:15 AM
Long time since I posted some shots of the whole bike. Starting to see some results, but there is still so much to mess with  [evil]

You guys have some suggestions on what to do next?

(http://i.imgur.com/ob9Vy.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/Mlp6h.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/VJiFv.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/G6LG6.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: jaxduc on October 08, 2012, 05:46:49 AM
looks awesome. keep going.


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: ChrisK on October 08, 2012, 07:24:08 AM
Where did you pick up your dual headlight/how do you like the quality/ light output etc?


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on October 08, 2012, 09:02:49 PM
looks awesome. keep going.
Thanks. will do.

Where did you pick up your dual headlight/how do you like the quality/ light output etc?
Jeff at Monster Parts hooked me up with it.

Link:
http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/DUALS/Electrical/DUALS.html (http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/DUALS/Electrical/DUALS.html)

Quality piece, Good fit and finish on the parts. The bulbs that come with it bite, definitely need to upgrade those. I just picked up some high output halogens, so now they throw about as much light as the OEM headlight. Plan on doing a HID conversion later on down the road. Relatively easy to wire up if you have some basic tools. Also a good idea to find some connectors that will click into the factory harness. that way you do not have to cut on it to install the head light. I salvaged some off a wrecked Monster.


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on October 08, 2012, 09:18:09 PM
Monster update:
Waiting on a ton of parts. Hub will not show up for a few weeks [thumbsdown]

Shop update:

Have a new front fender for the bagger:
(http://i.imgur.com/ZPYKk.jpg?1)

Running a 23 inch wheel. [evil]
(http://i.imgur.com/9T2WY.jpg?1)

Intake / inter-cooler / blower are down on the boat motor:
(http://i.imgur.com/KLvVl.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/3iZ08.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/Uqls1.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/gfCFy.jpg?1)

Designed and milled out a power steering fluid reservoir for the boat:
(http://i.imgur.com/GretK.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/qQnjD.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/HVpKi.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/lLVq1.jpg?1)
 
The pump will mount above the water pump on the bracket that juts out from the coolant crossover.

Turned a trick master cylinder for a hot rod my friend is building:
(http://i.imgur.com/FBkGM.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/nqehu.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Anchorism on October 08, 2012, 10:38:25 PM
You know,  I know this is REALLY random... but i have the same boots in black! 


(http://i.imgur.com/nzbDi.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on October 11, 2012, 08:42:15 PM
You know,  I know this is REALLY random... but i have the same boots in black! 
Cool, I really like harness style boots. My dad had a pair when he was my age. [laugh]

Owned tons of motorcycle gear since I started riding. Everything from no gear (stupid I know, now i'm ATGATT) to track suits. The most comfortable setup to ride in: leather boots, leather gloves, mid-weight jacket, jeans, and a Shoei.


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on October 11, 2012, 08:42:37 PM


Monster update:

New sprockets / carrier and chain showed up. Hub will not be here for weeks >:( so I am using the stock one till it gets here.

Removed the stock stuff:
(http://i.imgur.com/bYxVu.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/oAh5p.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/bp8In.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/weVXo.jpg?1)

Junk screwdrivers work great if you need to wedge a sprocket in place to wrench of a bolt or nut:
(http://i.imgur.com/UYDJH.jpg?1)

New vs. old sprocket setup. Went from 15/39 to 15/41 plus a 520 chain:
(http://i.imgur.com/gjEiF.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/kHpz3.jpg?1)

Cleaned, greased, and installed the crush drives and hub spacer in the new carrier:
(http://i.imgur.com/5rqNU.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/3zndU.jpg?1)

New lightened front sprocket on:
(http://i.imgur.com/Tgo0O.jpg?1)

Rear sprocket on:
(http://i.imgur.com/5vsjV.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/x3TQo.jpg?1)

Finished:
(http://i.imgur.com/UOHOq.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/4XojK.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/laEJb.jpg?1)

The red chain looks so [evil]. Now I just need the hub to show up.  :-\


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on October 11, 2012, 08:52:37 PM
Almost forgot.

Me and a few of the people I ride with are going to Vintage days at Barber's Motorsports tomorrow. Let me know if any of you guys will be there. Would be cool to meet a few people from DMF.  [beer]

Links:

Vintage days.
http://www.barbervintagefestival.org/index.php (http://www.barbervintagefestival.org/index.php)

Ducstock.
http://www.ducati.net/2012/07/ducstock-2012-at-barber-vintage-festival-and-motogiro-south-details/ (http://www.ducati.net/2012/07/ducstock-2012-at-barber-vintage-festival-and-motogiro-south-details/)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on October 23, 2012, 04:55:36 PM
Hey guys, been a long time since I had a chance to do an update. Been getting caught up at work since I took a few days off for the Barber's Vintage Festival.

Vintage days:

Had to get a photo of this bike:
(http://i.imgur.com/kdOqs.jpg?1)

Me, tooling around on the track:
(http://i.imgur.com/hjZaL.jpg?1)

Met the guys behind a company called Motus. They produce an unusual bike with a very cool powertrain. Definitely going to pick up an engine from them when I get a chance.

Got invited to a bike night they were hosting. Ran into some very interesting people there. Talked with Pierre Terblanche for a while, he has designed several bike for Ducati: Supermono, sportclassic, hypermotard....

Motus' motorcycle:
(http://i.imgur.com/Vd3TE.jpg?1)

Ran into Bellissimoto. Been dealing with them for a while, so it was nice to finally talk in person. Cool group of guys, Highly recommend them if you need any thing for your bike. Swapped keys with them a few times the Bimota, and the ST4 Streetfigter are some awesome bikes to ride.

Bellissimoto bikes:
(http://i.imgur.com/ZtcF5.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on October 23, 2012, 04:55:48 PM
Shop update -

Bagger:
The Harley is now more or less an engine stand [laugh]. The neck and rake kit will get welded on shortly. I also did a bit of body work on the headlight fairing. Its one of the few pieces we are reusing.  
 
Frame chop:
(http://i.imgur.com/ajO4J.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/52Dao.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/TS0Gf.jpg?1)

Body work:
(http://i.imgur.com/2NzUo.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/iuiCC.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/DmePu.jpg?1)

Front wheel is in [evil]:
(http://i.imgur.com/CKsXi.jpg?1)



Boat:

Power steering pump is finished and installed:
(http://i.imgur.com/7dC1A.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/cF2yL.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on October 23, 2012, 05:08:39 PM
Help me make up my mind again.

You guys really helped out when I was looking for a sprocket setup. So I was thinking you could help me out again. Going to make a custom, one piece under seat tray for my Monster. Need some suggestions on some integrated tail lights to mount in it.

Kinda all over the place on this one. Considering everything from universal kits, to stealing a light off a Suzuki SV.

Reference:
(http://i.imgur.com/7VxHx.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/6BwQi.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: DFUSEME on October 23, 2012, 06:58:51 PM
I kinda like those SV lights, or maybe get some tail lights off a Diavel. Ya know? Keep it in the Ducati family!!!

I gotta say I'm pretty confident you will come up with something sick!!! I'd even offer to pay for one if you made one for me!


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on October 30, 2012, 08:44:53 PM
I kinda like those SV lights, or maybe get some tail lights off a Diavel. Ya know? Keep it in the Ducati family!!!

I gotta say I'm pretty confident you will come up with something sick!!! I'd even offer to pay for one if you made one for me!
Did a lot of looking around ended up going with a light off a SV. Found one for cheap, besides I always really liked the newer style SV taillight. Not sure how hard it would be to replicate the under seat tray I am going to make. If its not too complicated and there is enough interest I might produce a short run of them.


Monster update:
Got a taillight off a wrecked SV. Just need to figure out the under seat tray to mount it in. Also I do not like clear lenses, going to find a stock red lens to swap onto it.

SV integrated taillight:
(http://i.imgur.com/mjwEb.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/gw7z0.jpg?1)

Added some red to the rear subframes. Only took me a few hours, and I think it really improves the look of the frame.

Nice tools:
(http://i.imgur.com/qLFq2.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/rFdM0.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/KUq3t.jpg?1)

Rear subframe paint:
I know the paint looks a bit orange in the photos due to the flash on my phone. Trust me, I got an exact paint match.
(http://i.imgur.com/MlSm1.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/0zChM.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/Fug7H.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/mW0RG.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/28wET.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/2TyLZ.jpg?1).

Did the work at a place called Brown's Auto Body.  I apprenticed there when I was little, so they let me use the place on the weekends. The cars below belong to the owner. He is a cool older guy that has around 100-150 cars and races at a local dirt track.

Random stuff that was there:
(http://i.imgur.com/RkWoH.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/Z8kdG.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/qU90p.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/rmL1I.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/HcEG3.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on October 30, 2012, 09:26:26 PM
Shop update:


Bagger:

Squared the neck with the frame and welded it back on. Ended up with about a 1 inch stretch in the back bone and 9 more degrees of rake. Also got some rubber on the new wheel.

Front wheel:
(http://i.imgur.com/3adl7.jpg?1)

Some idea of how far the neck moved:
(http://i.imgur.com/NGswi.jpg?1)

welds: I need more practice :-[.
(http://i.imgur.com/qZEoa.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/PeX5r.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/zSLkK.jpg?1)

Boxing out the joint for strength:
(http://i.imgur.com/QJvCd.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/Rnxyz.jpg?1)

Norton:

Changed the rear tire. Also found out I need brake pads. Ordered a new set, should be here in 7-10 days.

Removed the wheel:
(http://i.imgur.com/o8v0f.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/RaNYN.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/JGWM3.jpg?1)

Almost dead brake pad:
(http://i.imgur.com/T9uJz.jpg?1)

Checked the tube for wear:
(http://i.imgur.com/wHRzp.jpg?1)

New tire on, and wheel balanced / trued:
(http://i.imgur.com/yiwne.jpg?1)

Scuffed up the new tire with a 2+ hour ride  [Dolph]:
(http://i.imgur.com/COT2O.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/JqbUI.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/PYk6a.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Travman on October 31, 2012, 06:32:54 AM
Dude you need to repaint that Norton.


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on November 01, 2012, 12:43:32 AM
Dude you need to repaint that Norton.

What makes you say that? Going to have to explain that one to me.  ???


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on November 01, 2012, 12:43:45 AM
Shop update:

Honda CBR:
Did my track day a while ago. Nothing extraordinary happened, I got all the [evil] out of my system, and didn't crash so that all worked out well ;D. Just swapped my street tires back on to the bike. Took a few photos of the track tires - Dunlop D209GPA. Med/soft rear, Med front.

Track Tires:

Front Left:
(http://i.imgur.com/3CRyQ.jpg?1)

Front Right:
(http://i.imgur.com/WrNMZ.jpg?1)

Rear Left:
(http://i.imgur.com/clgNb.jpg?1)

Rear Right:
(http://i.imgur.com/DgSBI.jpg?1)


Harley Sportster 883:
Now that it is getting cold out, my parents are more or less done riding for this season. There are a few things my mom wants done to her bike. Just ordered a bunch of parts, should be here this weekend.

Requested modifications - Rear fender chop
                                   Custom seat
                                   Change the air cleaner
                                   Different rear wheel to match the front
                                   Mid foot controls
                                   Different hand controls / handle bars
                                   Possibly a lowering kit

The bike right now (bone stock):
(http://i.imgur.com/QVOC9.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/7VDP4.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: kevdawg on November 04, 2012, 06:24:11 PM
Great thread [beer]....I have to grt aroung posting some pics.. I have a 2008 Monster S4RS Tricolore ,, 630 miles on it..( I know,,gott'a ride it!) I also have a 2011 HD XR1200X.. Fun bike!
Keep up the great posts [Dolph]


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: ChrisK on November 05, 2012, 08:24:28 AM
Very excited to see the new taillight set up on the Monster!


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on November 08, 2012, 02:24:56 AM
Great thread [beer]....I have to grt aroung posting some pics.. I have a 2008 Monster S4RS Tricolore ,, 630 miles on it..( I know,,gott'a ride it!) I also have a 2011 HD XR1200X.. Fun bike!
Keep up the great posts [Dolph]
Thanks [beer]. Those are two mean bikes you listed, would definitely like to see them. Let me know when you get some pics posted.  [thumbsup]

Very excited to see the new taillight set up on the Monster!

Me to [laugh]. I keep tweaking the design, so it is turning out a bit more complicated than I first planned. Just need to make up my mind and fabricate it already.


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on November 08, 2012, 02:25:03 AM
Shop update:

Sportster 883:

Picked up a lot of the parts I needed. Also, found some time to bolt on the new foot controls. Should get most of the work done on the bike this week.

Side note - I do no have creative control over this project since the bike belongs to my mother. So there will be a few things that I am not thrilled with [thumbsdown]. All things considered, the bike will look much better when done.  

New rear wheel:
(http://i.imgur.com/xkhjU.jpg?1)

Really like the billet center
(http://i.imgur.com/g9ftm.jpg?1)


Air cleaner (Not the one I would of picked, but not bad):
(http://i.imgur.com/tszqH.jpg?1)


Mid foot controls:
(http://i.imgur.com/PHHek.jpg?1)

This side gave me trouble cause of the exhaust. Had to grind down one of my allen keys to get to some of the bolts.
(http://i.imgur.com/CAk0N.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/EmnWI.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/p2fT6.jpg?1)


New rear fender:
Shortened it as much as I was allowed. Still need to mock it up and make a few cuts on it before paint.
(http://i.imgur.com/d4WPg.jpg?1)


Rear wiring harness:
I basically need to build a new harness for the back of the bike. The little black box in the left part of the photo below controls the turn signal and brake light functions.
(http://i.imgur.com/7maA5.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on November 10, 2012, 05:36:50 AM
Shop update:

Charger:

Pulled the old suspension out of the car. Going back with a more modern setup from a company called XV Motorsports. Using their level l suspension in front and the level ll in the rear. also getting a custom Ford 9'' rear differential from a place called Strange Engineering, and front/rear disk brakes from Wilwood. Wilwood is putting together a kit for me since my car will technically be a dodge in front and a Ford in back. Getting the master cylinder from XV.

All this and 10.5 inch wide tires will hold me on the road and keep me from dying when I brake or go around a corner in the car. ;D

Links:

Rear suspension:
http://www.xvmotorsports.com/products/detail/index.cfm?nPID=65 (http://www.xvmotorsports.com/products/detail/index.cfm?nPID=65)

Front Suspension:
http://www.xvmotorsports.com/products/detail/index.cfm?nPID=279&cid=38&cdesc=B-Body%20Products (http://www.xvmotorsports.com/products/detail/index.cfm?nPID=279&cid=38&cdesc=B-Body%20Products)
http://www.p-s-t.com/s.nl/it.A/id.163/.f?sc=12 (http://www.p-s-t.com/s.nl/it.A/id.163/.f?sc=12)

Rear end:
http://www.strangeengineering.net/index.html (http://www.strangeengineering.net/index.html)

Brakes:
http://www.xvmotorsports.com/products/detail/index.cfm?nPID=276&cid=3&cdesc=Brakes (http://www.xvmotorsports.com/products/detail/index.cfm?nPID=276&cid=3&cdesc=Brakes)
http://www.wilwood.com/ (http://www.wilwood.com/)

Using the stock lower control arms, spindles, and K-member up front. the ones on my car were junk and no one reproduces them so I had to go digging for some new ones. Lucky for me, I live about an hour and a half away from the largest Mopar salvage yard in the world. Stephen's Performance [bow_down], would of had a hell of a time finishing the car without these guys. Also, got some repro. upper control arms while I was there.

My old suspension and the "new" parts I pull out of the junkyard:
(http://i.imgur.com/yDG3v.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/ZkvDw.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/hLXrq.jpg?1)

Sand blasted and repainted the bits that are going back on the car:
(http://i.imgur.com/CPRnr.jpg?1)

Lower control arms:
(http://i.imgur.com/UA9RL.jpg?1)

Spindles:
(http://i.imgur.com/IgwcR.jpg?1)

K-member:
(http://i.imgur.com/plk3J.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/mD8Yq.jpg?1)

Repro. upper control arms:
(http://i.imgur.com/WE58W.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on November 11, 2012, 02:04:49 PM
Monster update:
Anyone here ordered parts from AEM? How long did it take to get them?

Got some news from Bellissimoto on my hub. They just got their order in from AEM and my parts didn't show up. So, guess I am going to be waiting a while longer  >:(.

Should get the material in for my under seat tray soon. Look for some progress on that shortly.


Shop update:

883 Sportster:

Machined a quick adapter for the air cleaner and bolted it on. Disassembled the back of the bike and got a tire / seal put on the new wire wheel.

Turning the adapter:
Had an excuse to use a big drill bit on the lathe.
(http://i.imgur.com/BQI6C.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/sRi4Z.jpg?1)

Bolted on:
(http://i.imgur.com/QQIsE.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/vBlWH.jpg?1)

Ugly stock wheel:
(http://i.imgur.com/5WERE.jpg?1)

Gone (what the bike looks like now):
(http://i.imgur.com/vhGKm.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on November 14, 2012, 07:48:48 PM
Shop update:

Sporster 883:

Finished and painted the rear fender, installed the new wheel, and made a wiring harness for the back of the bike.

Old fender on right / new fender on left:
(http://i.imgur.com/BI8sC.jpg?1)

The ECU mounts in the fender, so I had to cut out a place for it:
(http://i.imgur.com/KS6ve.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/5wH9V.jpg?1)

Several pieces that pop rivet on:
Side plate.
(http://i.imgur.com/3DnsC.jpg?1)
License plate bracket.
(http://i.imgur.com/inTfE.jpg?1)
dust shield.
(http://i.imgur.com/Vf3Tr.jpg?1)

Wire wheel:
(http://i.imgur.com/4ayyu.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/JAehH.jpg?1)

wiring harness:
(http://i.imgur.com/3gAuc.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/AD3dJ.jpg?1)

How the wiring runs under the fender:
(http://i.imgur.com/bFPRd.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/yr0wS.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on November 14, 2012, 08:46:51 PM
Charger:

Welded in a chassis stiffening system designed by XV. Should keep the car from flexing and let the suspension do its job. I know the under side of the car looks a bit rough. Going to strip it and hit it with some spray on sound deadening insulation before the new suspension goes on.

Links:
Engine Compartment Brace
http://www.xvmotorsports.com/products/detail/index.cfm?nPID=18&cid=105&cdesc=Chassis%20Stiffening (http://www.xvmotorsports.com/products/detail/index.cfm?nPID=18&cid=105&cdesc=Chassis%20Stiffening)
Inner Fender Braces
http://www.xvmotorsports.com/products/detail/index.cfm?nPID=299&cid=105&cdesc=Chassis%20Stiffening (http://www.xvmotorsports.com/products/detail/index.cfm?nPID=299&cid=105&cdesc=Chassis%20Stiffening)
Lower Rad Support
http://www.xvmotorsports.com/products/detail/index.cfm?nPID=20&cid=105&cdesc=Chassis%20Stiffening (http://www.xvmotorsports.com/products/detail/index.cfm?nPID=20&cid=105&cdesc=Chassis%20Stiffening)
Sub-Frame Connectors
http://www.xvmotorsports.com/products/detail/index.cfm?nPID=15&cid=105&cdesc=Chassis%20Stiffening (http://www.xvmotorsports.com/products/detail/index.cfm?nPID=15&cid=105&cdesc=Chassis%20Stiffening)

Photos:

Car as it sits now:
(http://i.imgur.com/dM4Z9.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/zdM9I.jpg?1)

Engine compartment brace:
(http://i.imgur.com/tpVKo.jpg?1)

Inner fender brace:
(http://i.imgur.com/nH3Gk.jpg?1)

Lower radiator support:
(http://i.imgur.com/g49jP.jpg?1)

Rear sub-frame:
(http://i.imgur.com/3X4IX.jpg?1)

Front sub-frame:
(http://i.imgur.com/Shi2A.jpg?1)

Sub-frame connectors:
(http://i.imgur.com/0HKOE.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/75K98.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/agslO.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/mAPme.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on November 18, 2012, 09:21:55 PM
Charger:

Rear diff showed up, has a 3.55 gear ratio. Should be a good performance street setup. Also, had to find and refurbish a set of leaf spring U brackets for my trailing arms. Some idiot that owned the car before me drilled holes in the ones that are on it.  [bang]

Rear diff:
(http://i.imgur.com/jh01x.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/up9uR.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/Q1P0W.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/wquhR.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/O6EgU.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/z8Zal.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/o3zmD.jpg?1)

What I wish my welds looked like ;D:
(http://i.imgur.com/EX3Sx.jpg?1)

U brackets:
(http://i.imgur.com/ezqKg.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/J7SYX.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/0vzM4.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/hbO1o.jpg?1)

Sporster 883:

Got the rear fender bolted on. back of the bike is pretty much done at this point.

Turn signals / brake lights:
(http://i.imgur.com/4wP4H.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/nE3nO.jpg?1)

Wiring:
(http://i.imgur.com/AX6jL.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/o7Kmg.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/AsRQe.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/9kJjb.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/2CfZO.jpg?1)

Quick shot of how the new setup looks:
(http://i.imgur.com/Qc07J.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on November 20, 2012, 06:27:51 PM
Charger:

Started assemble on the engine for the car. Going to be running a 498 stroker motor, with a 10.5-1 compression ratio. Should make around 525 HP / 625 ft-lbs torque. A place in Huntsville, AL called R&R Speed Shop did the machine work on the block.

Engine block:
(http://i.imgur.com/DtI8q.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/hN20t.jpg?1)

Steel 4 bolt main bearing caps:
(http://i.imgur.com/Cu9F0.jpg?1)

Eagle crank / H-beam connecting rods / pistons:
(http://i.imgur.com/7bsEd.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/bLnNF.jpg?1)


Random stuff that was at R&R: billet aluminum V8 [evil]
(http://i.imgur.com/rk0A6.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/UOt8o.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/zCRxy.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/r1bWu.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/NN2jd.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on November 20, 2012, 06:30:28 PM
883 Sportster:

Better photos of the changes so far:
(http://i.imgur.com/3uZuf.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/5KLIm.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/H9fcf.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/pG2hy.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/WU6Tg.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: Detroit117 on November 26, 2012, 03:05:30 PM
Going to be shipping out with the Coast Guard tomorrow. That means no updates for the next few months.

gratuitous wheelie photo:  [evil]
(http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/1875/18983839450121161361252.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/839/18983839450121161361252.jpg/)


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: jimbonuttz on January 25, 2013, 12:04:55 AM
amazing bike and mods, seems like we have similar tastes! can't believe ive never noticed this forum til now :(


Title: Re: Detroit's Monster Build (conceivably some other stuff to)
Post by: jbuilds on November 20, 2014, 01:03:03 PM
That's a very clean Monster. Bump.

This build is being featured in the BikeBuilds.net directory here: Monster

We’re currently displaying only a reduced-size photo (similar to what you’d find in Google Images). We'd like to ask for your permission to publish the original full-size image with your build listing.

If anyone would like to have a build of their own listed, just send me a message with a link to the build thread and we’ll take care of the rest.

Cristian



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