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Title: I hate craigslist
Post by: silentbob on June 30, 2008, 09:06:32 PM
Who is Craig and where does he live?  I want to kick him in the nuts.

After the great success I had using craigslist to attempt to give away a free table, I guess this should come as no surprise.

http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=3269.0 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=3269.0)

I got two kittens from a friend last year.  One of them was seriously injured and needed surgery.  I needed to get them fixed but the vet made me wait until the injured cat was fully recovered.  While I was waiting, both cats got pregnant.  They gave birth on the same day to 9 kittens. 

I decided to put an ad on craigslist to give them away.  I checked the guidelines.  You cannot sell animals or make requests for breeding (except in the erotic services section).  You can give them away for a small adoption fee.  There is a big warning from the PETA nazis about free kittens potentially being eaten or abused. 

So I placed an ad to give away the remaining kittens.  It was flagged for removal.  I created a new ad and added an adoption fee of $1.  It was flagged for removal.  I placed an ad asking why the previous ad was removed.  It was flagged for removal.  I created a new ad today asking for a small donation but did not specify an exact amount.  It was flagged for removal.  These all get flagged within minutes of being posted.  What the hell is wrong with these PETA assholes that they keep flagging all the ads for kittens?  Is it better that I give them to the shelter so they can be killed by professionals?

Anyway I still have several kittens and the two mom cats that need homes.  The mom cats are one year old.  With the divorce neither of us will be able to take the cats with us.  So, either they go to good homes this month or it is off to the pound.
Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: red baron on June 30, 2008, 09:19:15 PM
After reading the story now I gotta tell the wife about the cats. >:(


Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: Timmy Tucker on June 30, 2008, 09:33:24 PM
Quote from: silentbob on June 30, 2008, 09:06:32 PM
... There is a big warning from the PETA nazis about free kittens potentially being eaten ... 

WTF?   ???
Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: x136 on June 30, 2008, 10:27:12 PM
Quote from: silentbob on June 30, 2008, 09:06:32 PMWhat the hell is wrong with these PETA assholes that they keep flagging all the ads for kittens?

It may not even be PETA assholes, just the regular kind. Seems like there are people who take great amusement in flagging all sorts of stuff for removal for no reason.

Good luck finding homes for the little guys. Have you thought about putting signs up around the neighborhood or seeing if any of the local newspapers have free/cheap ads for such things?
Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: NAKID on June 30, 2008, 11:03:36 PM
Wow dude, those peta people are assholes....
Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: Drunken Monkey on July 01, 2008, 12:10:41 AM
Post up in the sex section that you have free kittens.

Or post them in the food section.

Or threaten to eat them unless they find good homes.

Doubt it's PETA. More like garden variety bored shitheads. Hell post a "missed connection" between your boot and the ass of the person who keeps complaining :)

I dunno. Out of ideas.
Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: TiNi on July 01, 2008, 04:09:36 AM
i can't believe you are still trying to find homes for these kittens....

take them somewhere people can see them :)
the cute factor usually wins people over...

unless this person is my fiancée
Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: Count Desmo on July 01, 2008, 06:28:29 AM
Quote from: Drunken Monkey on July 01, 2008, 12:10:41 AM
Or threaten to eat them unless they find good homes.

I like this one! [thumbsup]
Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: Triple J on July 01, 2008, 08:07:20 AM
Have you searched for a local rescue?  Probably a better option if available...kittens would probably get adopted quickly, even from a regular shelter.

The reason they don't like you to give away animals is they often end up being picked up by some low life and abused.  The theory is that if someone has to shell out some $$$ for a pet, they may take better care of it.  It's obviously not a fool proof plan, but it's better than nothing.

That sucks that CL won't at least give you a straight answer.
Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: Pakhan on July 01, 2008, 08:41:57 AM
Why can't you keep the cats?

I understand giving away the kittens.
Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: toaster on July 01, 2008, 08:47:38 AM
the biggest problem with getting them from a rescue place is the ridiculous price you have to pay to "adopt" anything.  my local shelter charges 110 for an adoption fee.  im not gonna pay that much for a mutt dog... EVER.  i know they neuter/spay them, but that doesnt cost that much.  and they have a really long form you have to fill out telling them the size of your house, size of your yard, any other pets, your income, etc.  i wish i was joking, but they really do this.  i went with a buddy one time and they even gave someone in his family a call to confirm his house and yard sizes.
Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: Triple J on July 01, 2008, 09:16:59 AM
Quote from: toaster on July 01, 2008, 08:47:38 AM
the biggest problem with getting them from a rescue place is the ridiculous price you have to pay to "adopt" anything.  my local shelter charges 110 for an adoption fee.  im not gonna pay that much for a mutt dog... EVER.  i know they neuter/spay them, but that doesnt cost that much.  and they have a really long form you have to fill out telling them the size of your house, size of your yard, any other pets, your income, etc.  i wish i was joking, but they really do this.  i went with a buddy one time and they even gave someone in his family a call to confirm his house and yard sizes.

Seriously?  Rescue's are non-profit.  The adoption fee is intended to cover the costs of the vet, including spay and neuter.  Don't think it costs that much...take an animal to the vet and see what you get charged.  They also have to pay for the location of the rescue (i.e. rent, utilities, etc).  Same goes for a shelter...they are notoriously underfunded, and inundated with animals.

Regarding having to fill out a form...give me a break!  The primary goal of a rescue is to adopt the animal out to GOOD homes.  Hopefully they never have to rescue the animal again that way.  The form is a minor inconvienance for you, but a great help to the people trying to find good homes.  Verifying that the animal is going to a place with an enclosed yard is just prudent.  It would be irresponsible of them to adopt out a dog to someone who was going to keep them on a chain all day.  [roll]
Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: dolci on July 01, 2008, 09:17:51 AM
Last year, when I separated from the ex, we needed to get rid of one of our two cats and I placed an ad on Craigslist.  Although it didn't get flagged for removal, I had some of the strangest people on the face of the planet contact me.  It was pretty easy to sort out the true weirdos from the eccentrics.  A few quick questions by email and it was easy to tell whether you would trust someone or not with an inanimate object, let alone a kitten.
Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: dolci on July 01, 2008, 09:19:45 AM
Quote from: toaster on July 01, 2008, 08:47:38 AM
the biggest problem with getting them from a rescue place is the ridiculous price you have to pay to "adopt" anything.  my local shelter charges 110 for an adoption fee.  im not gonna pay that much for a mutt dog... EVER.  i know they neuter/spay them, but that doesnt cost that much.  and they have a really long form you have to fill out telling them the size of your house, size of your yard, any other pets, your income, etc.  i wish i was joking, but they really do this.  i went with a buddy one time and they even gave someone in his family a call to confirm his house and yard sizes.

In Maryland, they come visit your home before they will allow you to adopt a dog or a cat.  They do not spay or neuter and although the fee is less, it barely covers the cost they put out to feed the animals (having had multiple animals at one time, I can only imagine those costs). 
Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: Pakhan on July 01, 2008, 10:24:34 AM
How do you take a pet, which is like a family member and post it on craigslist (or anywhere) like it's a lamp or coffee table you no longer desire?  ???
Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: somegirl on July 01, 2008, 10:39:01 AM
Quote from: Triple J on July 01, 2008, 09:16:59 AM
Seriously?  Rescue's are non-profit.  The adoption fee is intended to cover the costs of the vet, including spay and neuter.  Don't think it costs that much...take an animal to the vet and see what you get charged.  They also have to pay for the location of the rescue (i.e. rent, utilities, etc).  Same goes for a shelter...they are notoriously underfunded, and inundated with animals.

Regarding having to fill out a form...give me a break!  The primary goal of a rescue is to adopt the animal out to GOOD homes.  Hopefully they never have to rescue the animal again that way.  The form is a minor inconvienance for you, but a great help to the people trying to find good homes.  Verifying that the animal is going to a place with an enclosed yard is just prudent.  It would be irresponsible of them to adopt out a dog to someone who was going to keep them on a chain all day.  [roll]

I absolutely agree.  The rescue or shelter does not want to see the animal come back through again in a few months.
Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: silentbob on July 01, 2008, 10:47:44 AM
Quote from: Pakhan on July 01, 2008, 10:24:34 AM
How do you take a pet, which is like a family member and post it on craigslist (or anywhere) like it's a lamp or coffee table you no longer desire?  ???


So far I have only given them away to friends but I am running out of people to adopt them.
Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: Gator on July 01, 2008, 02:51:16 PM
Take them to the vet and get them vaccinated charge what ever you were charged by the vet... job done.

I will vaccinate them for you for â,¬30, but youll pay more than that to ship them to me...
Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: MikeZ on July 01, 2008, 07:51:15 PM
Can also post note at local vets office about free kittens to good home.
Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on July 01, 2008, 10:07:22 PM
Quote from: Pakhan on July 01, 2008, 10:24:34 AM
How do you take a pet, which is like a family member and post it on craigslist (or anywhere) like it's a lamp or coffee table you no longer desire?  ???


Because it's a pet you no longer desire and didn't want in the first place? Trying to find it a good home beats the alternative way to get rid of kittens, which involves a sack and some rocks...


And "like a family member" is laughable. I'd post my family up on Craigslist too if I thought someone would take them.
Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: silentbob on July 01, 2008, 10:25:57 PM
Quote from: someguy on July 01, 2008, 10:07:22 PM
I'd post my family up on Craigslist too if I thought someone would take them.

Got any hot sisters?
Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: NAKID on July 01, 2008, 11:25:59 PM
Have you seen him? If they look anything REMOTELY like him they can't be!


[laugh]
Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: ADG on July 02, 2008, 12:14:38 AM
I hate Craigslist!

My business partner keeps sending me e-mails of these fat, ugly black prostitutes that sell their disgusting junk from that site.  [bang]


[laugh]


Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: Rameses on July 02, 2008, 12:17:05 AM
Quote from: Pakhan on July 01, 2008, 10:24:34 AM
How do you take a pet, which is like a family member and post it on craigslist (or anywhere) like it's a lamp or coffee table you no longer desire?  ???



Uhhh, b/c they're make the beast with two backsing cats?!

[roll]
Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: Drunken Monkey on July 02, 2008, 12:35:57 AM
Quote from: Pakhan on July 01, 2008, 10:24:34 AM
How do you take a pet, which is like a family member and post it on craigslist (or anywhere) like it's a lamp or coffee table you no longer desire?  ???

You're right! They should be treated like family!

So go beat them to death with a baseball bat and bury them in a shallow gave in the backyard. What's good enough for grandma, is good enough for the cats!
Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: Triple J on July 02, 2008, 02:25:10 PM
Maybe he'll correct me, but I'm pretty sure Pakhan was talking about people posting their animals in general, not specifically about SilentBob's situation.  For instance, the people that want to give away their 8 year old Lab because they suddenly decided to move into a condo.  SB's situation is quite a bit different.  At least that's how I read it.    ???
Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: Timmy Tucker on July 02, 2008, 05:08:31 PM
Quote from: Drunken Monkey on July 02, 2008, 12:35:57 AM
You're right! They should be treated like family!

So go beat them to death with a baseball bat and bury them in a shallow gave in the backyard. What's good enough for grandma, is good enough for the cats!


[clap] [clap] [clap] [clap]


Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: Pakhan on July 03, 2008, 10:37:07 AM
Quote from: Triple J on July 02, 2008, 02:25:10 PM
Maybe he'll correct me, but I'm pretty sure Pakhan was talking about people posting their animals in general, not specifically about SilentBob's situation.  For instance, the people that want to give away their 8 year old Lab because they suddenly decided to move into a condo.  SB's situation is quite a bit different.  At least that's how I read it.    ???

Bingo.

I understand getting rid of a litter of kittens or puppies, I was talking more generally about owning any pet for a long term and discarding. People who get rid of pets they have had for a long time are weak and pathetic IMHO.
Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: Kaveh on July 03, 2008, 05:43:25 PM
Quote from: Pakhan on July 03, 2008, 10:37:07 AM
Bingo.

I understand getting rid of a litter of kittens or puppies, I was talking more generally about owning any pet for a long term and discarding. People who get rid of pets they have had for a long time are weak and pathetic IMHO.

+11tyb
Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: Rameses on July 03, 2008, 10:25:49 PM
Quote from: Pakhan on July 03, 2008, 10:37:07 AM
Bingo.

I understand getting rid of a litter of kittens or puppies, I was talking more generally about owning any pet for a long term and discarding. People who get rid of pets they have had for a long time are weak and pathetic IMHO.


Okay, that I can get on board with.
Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: Ducatista on July 04, 2008, 06:23:32 PM
Quote from: Pakhan on July 03, 2008, 10:37:07 AM
Bingo.

I understand getting rid of a litter of kittens or puppies, I was talking more generally about owning any pet for a long term and discarding. People who get rid of pets they have had for a long time are weak and pathetic IMHO.

What about people who get deployed?  What about people who get divorced and the spouse who keeps the house and gets all the child support, doesn't want the dog, and the person who was evicted can't afford anything that allows dogs?  What about a couple that has a dog and then have a child later on who is allergic to pets?  The blanket statement is unfair, but I do agree that people who have pets and then just decide that they're too much trouble are weak and pathetic.
Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on July 04, 2008, 07:44:40 PM
Quote from: Ducatista on July 04, 2008, 06:23:32 PM
but I do agree that people who have pets and then just decide that they're too much trouble are weak and pathetic.

Weird, I got called weak and pathetic by the girls I thought were too much trouble to keep around....
Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: raulduke on July 05, 2008, 01:05:50 AM
"I understand getting rid of a litter of kittens or puppies, I was talking more generally about owning any pet for a long term and discarding. People who get rid of pets they have had for a long time are weak and pathetic IMHO."

I understand this line of thinking...I have had dogs that were like family members and that I could NEVER part with.  Slept on my bed.  Went everywhere with me (at least when I took the cage).  Protected my children.

I have also owned hunting dogs.  Good dogs but they did a job, performed a function, lived in a dog house outside and which I had no great attachment too.  My point is people have different relationships with their pets.  Not all are as close and personal as some clearly are. 

Now lets get this out in the open too, cause everybody is afraid to say it.  If you eat chicken (or pork or beef) shut the make the beast with two backs up about killing cats.  Animals are animals and if you aren't  vegetarian get off your hypocritical high horse.  My grandfather would shoot a dog that was too old to hunt...cause it was a dog.  It was taking precious family resources (food) and not giving anything back to the family anymore.  I'm not saying I would shoot a dog but I don't think he was wrong for it.  Animal life does not have the same value as human life IMHO. 

(there will be protesters outside my house this weekend)

Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: robartlum on July 05, 2008, 12:41:34 PM
Peta makes me want to

PUNCH KITTENS!
Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: Ducatista on July 05, 2008, 02:04:27 PM
Quote from: robartlum on July 05, 2008, 12:41:34 PM
Peta makes me want to

PUNCH KITTENS!

Our next door neighbors probably have close to four dozen in their back yard if you need some.   :-[
Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: Bun-bun on July 05, 2008, 03:00:39 PM
Umm,
One reason NOT to offer free kittens, puppies, or rabbits ANYWHERE is that make the beast with two backsheads with big snakes use them as a free meal for their "pet".
Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: robartlum on July 05, 2008, 03:30:29 PM
Quote from: Bun-bun on July 05, 2008, 03:00:39 PM
Umm,
One reason NOT to offer free kittens, puppies, or rabbits ANYWHERE is that make the beast with two backsheads with big snakes use them as a free meal for their "pet".

I'm reminded of the scene from Roadtrip. [popcorn]
Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: silentbob on July 05, 2008, 04:04:32 PM
Quote from: Bun-bun on July 05, 2008, 03:00:39 PM
Umm,
One reason NOT to offer free kittens, puppies, or rabbits ANYWHERE is that make the beast with two backsheads with big snakes use them as a free meal for their "pet".

Yeah but there are far more legitimate people looking for pets and asking for a small fee will not stop the snake people.  Once again we have groups like PETA trying to protect us from ourselves by forcing everyone to restrict their activities to only those deemed acceptable by the lowest common denominator.  Kittens can be eaten so let's not allow adoption, motorcycles can kill so let's only drive cars, guns can be used to commit crimes so take them away from law abiding citizens, etc.....
Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: somegirl on July 05, 2008, 06:16:29 PM
Quote from: Bun-bun on July 05, 2008, 03:00:39 PM
One reason NOT to offer free kittens, puppies, or rabbits ANYWHERE is that make the beast with two backsheads with big snakes use them as a free meal for their "pet".

One biotech company I worked at, one of the employees got caught stealing leftover mice from the animal facility and selling them to pet stores for reselling as snake food.  Apparently it was quite lucrative.
Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: NAKID on July 05, 2008, 06:25:19 PM
After they had been tested on? What do you think happened to the snakes that ate them?
Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: somegirl on July 05, 2008, 06:32:22 PM
Quote from: NAKID on July 05, 2008, 06:25:19 PM
After they had been tested on? What do you think happened to the snakes that ate them?

Yeah, a questionable practice at best.  Hope the snakes were ok. :-\
Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: bonanzle.com on July 21, 2008, 09:44:23 AM
Hi everyone, I just joined the forum.  How did you find this forum?  Well, I did a search through Google Alert for the following term, "I Hate Craigslist."  Posts like that give me the opportunity to inform you of our site which just launched on June 1st.  We are out of Seattle and a hybrid of Craigslist and eBay. 

Now I do have some experience with the Pet forum.  After purchasing a dog (on a whim) for my children, four months later it was obvious that I made a mistake.  I needed to find a home for my dog, someone who could give him the attention he needed.  When I posted on Craigslist I was immediately flagged.  This happened time and time again.  I was not one to give up so I kept posting and luckily before my ad was flagged I was able to hook up with a very nice woman who just lost her long time companion who happened to be the exact breed that I had (Cockapoo).  I didnt feel guilty for one moment as I knew this woman would give the dog the attention and love that I could not.  So it did take some work but I was successful.  Thankfully the buyers of pets also know how the flaggers work so they are on it as soon as an ad comes up.

Anyway, back to the subject of our new site.  The name is www.bonanzle.com  I will not fill your forum with details, I will tell you though that it is free.  Just take a quick look and tell me what you think.  We are getting some great feedback from all that have been there.  Oh yeah, we do have a freebie section that you can list pets too!

Take care,
Mark Dorsey
Bonanzle.com
Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: MonsterLove on July 21, 2008, 02:00:44 PM
It's not PETA people necessarily that are flagging-there's just a bunch of bored losers on CL that like to flag most of the pet ads. Especially puppies and kittens.
As far as the pound not being a good deal-you've(sorry forgot your name) not had many pets, have you? I just adopted a kitten a couple of months ago and have spent roughly 1000.00 on him already for kitten shots, neuter, declaw etc etc. If I'd gotten him from the pound I would have paid 50 bucks, because right now they're having a special on all animals, even kittens and puppies, and they've already been fixed and had their first shots.
Try putting them in a box and going to the grocery store. You'd probably have better luck that way. Or put your phone number in the Listing title along with "free kittens" and you should get around the flaggers that way. The title will stay up for a bit after the ad has been flagged.
I'm vegetarian myself, but I'm not a PETA crazy. I don't like animal abuse though. At all. I think it's good that rescues are careful about who they let adopt their animals. After all, the animals in question have already had a hard time of it, might as well make sure they find a better home the next time around, eh? You'd be suprised at how many people get animals and find they have no way of taking care of it financially, or that the dog they adopted for their apartment actually needs a yard and it's too much trouble to take him for walks two or three times a day. Every day. In all weather. Or that they just don't have time for it. The excuses are many and varied.
Spay and Neuter should be everyone's mantra...so. Um. yeah. Off my soapbox now..

Celeste
Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: muscle_cars_only on July 21, 2008, 02:32:19 PM
Quote from: toaster on July 01, 2008, 08:47:38 AM
the biggest problem with getting them from a rescue place is the ridiculous price you have to pay to "adopt" anything.  my local shelter charges 110 for an adoption fee.  im not gonna pay that much for a mutt dog... EVER.  i know they neuter/spay them, but that doesnt cost that much.

Funny this came up..FWIW
Last week I had my two Dals neutered 7-14-08.  I wish That I was charged $110 for each of them. My total came to $473.00 for the both of them. I refuse to go into shelters,I'd end up taking all of the dogs home with me, I do donate 3  50lb. bags of dog food each month to them. These shelters make NO MONEY off of the animals. Their function is to find the animal a GOOD home and not another home that was like the one they came from.............
Title: Re: I hate craigslist
Post by: MonsterLove on July 21, 2008, 03:05:03 PM
You got off cheap. Mr.Miles(my kitten)was abandoned in someone's front yard and they brought him and two other kittens into the vet clinic when I was there with my dog. Of course I took one.  [roll] The vet offered a discounted kitten package, that included shots, felv/fiv test etc. That was 495. Then when I took him in for neuter and declawing, that was another 500. (that also included bloodwork, anesthesia, pain killer and a microchip) Shoot, the microchip alone was 80 bucks, and that was with a discount. So I'd say 110 is a bargain. I probably should have adopted from the pound...my husband would have been happier with me! LOL However, I saw that cute little face and had a moment of weakness. Of course I wouldn't trade him for anything, he's just a crazy adorable kitten.  ;D

Celeste