oil filter wrench

Started by dan miller, May 03, 2011, 11:40:28 AM

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dan miller

Someone please get me squared away on filters.  Do I need to rip the Fram filter off?

What filter is the best - bar none?

Thanks, Danny

ducatiz

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Quote from: dan miller on May 05, 2011, 07:35:15 PM
Someone please get me squared away on filters.  Do I need to rip the Fram filter off?


Fram filters are shit.  I would not use it for long.  Bypass city.

Read my thread about it:  http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=39672.0

Lots of pics

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What filter is the best - bar none?

Thanks, Danny

The best?  That's hard to say.  In terms of filtration capability, the Ducati, the HiFlo/K&N and the Baldwin are probably the "best" that are available in the US market.  Ducati is made by UFI which isn't available in the US.  Scott's makes a reusable stainless gauze filter which is supposed to be good, but it's pretty $$$$
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

ductech31

As far as any data or testing on filtration,  I didn't do any personally but going through one of my Ducati classes the instuctor,  who does a lot of race work, told use that was from testing that he had done.

ducatiz

Quote from: ductech31 on May 05, 2011, 08:15:08 PM
As far as any data or testing on filtration,  I didn't do any personally but going through one of my Ducati classes the instuctor,  who does a lot of race work, told use that was from testing that he had done.

Did anyone ask him what sort of equipment he used or how he determined it, or did everyone just believe it uncritically?

HiFlo makes the K&N filter.  Look at the pics. 
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

ductech31

We didn't ask for specifics,  next time I see him I'll ask.  I checked out your filter surgery, very impressive, and I see what you mean about K&N and Hiflo.

Know I am curious as to what he used and how he derived his info, I will find out and report back to the forum.

Howie

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Another comparison between K&N and OEM oil filter:
http://www.tpoparts.com/articles/oilfiltercompare.html

IMO, it is possible the filter paper itself may resist flow more than the OEM filter.  Since there is more paper surface area I would think that has been figured in.  I use either OEM, HiFlo, K&N or Proform, depending on what's available.  If the K&N does resist flow a bit I think this would not be an issue at 4-6 BAR oil pressure.

As far as Fram filters go, this link seems to be dead, but the paper may not stand up to high oil pressure and can distribute paper throughout the engine.
http://www.twocreeks.net/toby/oil_filters.shtml    in case it works again.  This is not only a Ducati issue.  Google Fram oil filter failure
New link:  http://www.tobycreek.org/oil_filters/index.shtml

Ddan

Quote from: dan miller on May 05, 2011, 07:35:15 PM


What filter is the best - bar none?

Thanks, Danny

George, in THE oil thread, tested an Amsoil EaO filter and said it was far beyond anything else then available on the market.  There may be other filters now with the same filter media, but his test results ended any discussion for me.
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Quote from: Dan on May 06, 2011, 03:05:07 AM
George, in THE oil thread, tested an Amsoil EaO filter and said it was far beyond anything else then available on the market.  There may be other filters now with the same filter media, but his test results ended any discussion for me.

Now I remember :P