Speed Triple Vs Monster S4R

[707soldier]

I currently own a 2009 Speed Triple 1050. The bike is great. Anyone on the forum own a S3 and a Monster S4R? Kindly give the comparison between this two awesome bikes. I always like the the Monster S4R, I just have not ridden one for a long period of time to get a good feel. It be interesting to see the input of owners on how this bikes measure up. Thank you

regards,
707 is on his way

[the_Journeyman]

I would imagine handling is similar, but the S3 is probably a bit quicker.  Never compared them though ~

JM

[Centerline]

I have maybe an hour of riding time on an '07 Speed Triple.  Superb machine whose power and power delivery to me felt like an even match to a stock S4RS.  The ride quality, ergos and overall feel of the Monster is suited perfectly to me and felt very noticably superior to the Triple.

[mihama01]

I felt the ergos on the triple were more natural (better) than my S4Rs.

The triple also felt less "raw" and more Japanese somehow. The brakes on the triple were worse than my S4Rs.

Speed wise, difficult, my S4Rs was slightly faster? or maybe it just felt that way 

I thought the S4Rs suspension was better (of course cause it got that fancy ohlins)

[lazarus7]

apples and oranges......
im still breaking in the s4rs, so i cant completely comment on the powerbands....
ergonomics, the duc is longer and lower, yet much more comfortable on the wrists,
and over long distances....
ohlins suspension is a HUGE difference, incredibly plush, while the speed triple is a little soft and underdamped/ undersprung...
torque on the triple is amazing, pulls like a freight train from 4k to redline, VERY linear and useable power....
handles very well too, but you DO have to bull it around a bit, its weight is noticable....
response on the s4rs is very strong with those 2 huge pistons giving immediate reaction around city riding...
triple is DEFinitely a hooligan/ wheelie machine....
different flavors, depending on your mood....
get one of each....

[JDS 07 S4Rs]

Man U go through alot of bikes ! What happened to the Daytona 675 ?
I drove a 1050 2 yrs ago. Just B4 I bought my S4RS. There is nothing wrong with that bike. U get what U pay for. They are sexy, sound great with aftermarket exhaust. But, they dont have some of the quailty of the Ducati.

[JDS 07 S4Rs]

apples and oranges......
im still breaking in the s4rs, so i cant completely comment on the powerbands....
ergonomics, the duc is longer and lower, yet much more comfortable on the wrists,
and over long distances....
ohlins suspension is a HUGE difference, incredibly plush, while the speed triple is a little soft and underdamped/ undersprung...
torque on the triple is amazing, pulls like a freight train from 4k to redline, VERY linear and useable power....
handles very well too, but you DO have to bull it around a bit, its weight is noticable....
response on the s4rs is very strong with those 2 huge pistons giving immediate reaction around city riding...
triple is DEFinitely a hooligan/ wheelie machine....
different flavors, depending on your mood....
get one of each....

Nice stable 

[707soldier]

^Just wanted a bike that have good ergo and I can ride everyday.

[He Man]

Ive sat on both and the Triple is much more comfortable. But its WAYYY to tall for me. Its like dual sport tall. gotta have one foot hanging of just to hold it of at the light.

The street triple though.....

[Clickjack]

Your Triumph S3 is beautiful.  I think it might be the best looking one I have seen.... and If i had seen it....

I was comparing the S3 and the S4R, and I decided on the S4R.  As a couple of previous posters said, Apples and Oranges.  The S3 is a little too heavy, little too tall, you have to fight it a bit, but you get a pay off in other areas.  I decided on the S4R because of styling, and quality.  I just love the way Ducati's look, and they are made out of the best parts.

Not to talk trash on your bike, but I visited a forum of S3 riders, and that's what made my mind up.  In general (with out telling them I was looking at another bike) they seemed irritated by some of the cheaper parts on the S3, and the related failures they had experienced.  The final nail was, apparently they suffer from oil system and engine problems.  If you experience this, Triumph will replace your engine... but I just didn't want to kick out the cash for anything I'm not confident in.   

[lazarus7]

true....
BUT.....
i frequent the triumph boards heavily as well,
and though there ARE quality issues (bad stators seem to be a current problem)
i have not heard of ANY oil related issues with the speed triple motor.
675 has been a topic of conversation, but i dont know of any firsthand.
my 2006 1050 speed triple has just broken 10,000 WELL used miles with ZERO complaints from me.
no oil usage, no clutch problems, no electrical gremlins, NOTHING.
yes, the brakes are certainly not up to par w the brembos,
so of course triumph fitted brembos in 2008.
i changed to ABM rotors and racing pads and have been quite happy with the setup...
the motor is a MONSTER, like riding an electric motor, VERY linear, just dial in the amount of wheelie youd like...
its a hell of a lot of bike for the $$$ and im very happy with mine....
but yes, its a pig, its big and tall and heavy and you do have to bull it around quite a bit,
but thats kindof part of its charm....
its not a cookie cutter japanese appliance....
you cant go wrong either way....

[707soldier]

^ all brands of motorcycle have their own problems.
To be honest it really came down to who have the least bugs,
the most reliable overall and the fewest issues.
Through research and frequent visits to various moto boards.
And combination of different factors the Triumph Speed Triple is my choice, for now.
Of course Ducati is on the short list.

[Vindingo]

Of course Ducati is on the short list.

picking one up next week? 

[707soldier]

picking one up next week? 

maybe in the next month, 

[dbran1949]

My business partner owns a speed triple, when we ride we occasionally switch bikes. The thing I like least about the bike (to me it is a pretty big thing) is the drive line lash. As you start to accelerate out of a turn there is a definite dead spot as you start to roll on the throttle then if you're not careful a bit of a jump when all the slop gets taken up