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Heavy Modded 696 at Indy

Started by Spidey, September 12, 2008, 10:14:38 PM

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Howley

#75
September 30, 2008, 05:39:39 PM
Who was it that said a 4v wouldn't fit in the 696 frame? Wheel hitting the radiator etc...

Capo

#76
October 01, 2008, 04:26:50 AM
Quote from: Howley on September 30, 2008, 05:39:39 PM
Who was it that said a 4v wouldn't fit in the 696 frame? Wheel hitting the radiator etc...

Obviously someone who had never tried to do it.


Capo de tuti capi

mitt

#77
October 01, 2008, 12:59:21 PM
Quote from: Capo on October 01, 2008, 04:26:50 AM
Obviously someone who had never tried to do it.

Just because it is not hitting when parked doesn't mean it won't hit when riding it.  It looks really close in the side view pics.

mitt

DW

#78
October 01, 2008, 03:38:59 PM
Quote from: mitt on October 01, 2008, 12:59:21 PM
Just because it is not hitting when parked doesn't mean it won't hit when riding it.  It looks really close in the side view pics.

mitt

Well, when I spoke to the guy at Indy, he did state it was a heavily modified 696 frame.  Where there is a will, there is a way.

Besides, that just makes it more like a 1098 R, which got held out of masterbike this year because changing to a different tire brand caused the front to hit the radiator.

Howley

#79
October 02, 2008, 12:01:46 AM
Quote from: mitt on October 01, 2008, 12:59:21 PM
Just because it is not hitting when parked doesn't mean it won't hit when riding it.  It looks really close in the side view pics.

mitt

Pretty sure he wouldn't go to all that trouble if he couldn't even ride it.

Rameses

#80
October 02, 2008, 09:36:47 AM
Quote from: mitt on October 01, 2008, 12:59:21 PM
Just because it is not hitting when parked doesn't mean it won't hit when riding it.  It looks really close in the side view pics.

mitt


I remember thinking the same thing while I was standing there looking at it.

It really did look like it was going to make contact when the forks compress.

mitt

#81
October 02, 2008, 10:07:34 AM
Quote from: Howley on October 02, 2008, 12:01:46 AM
Pretty sure he wouldn't go to all that trouble if he couldn't even ride it.

Others have...

It is hard to know exactly if it will touch with all the flex and bounce and compression that a front end goes through.

There have been more than several threads over the years on Monster forums about this problem when folks are doing engine swaps / radiator locations / custom frames / etc.

mitt

Speeddog

#82
October 02, 2008, 10:12:03 AM
Looked at the pics a bit closer....

IMO, the front wheel will hit the rad.
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Statler

#83
October 02, 2008, 10:13:12 AM
hell the first batch of S4RSs on our shore had the rad clearance issue right out of the crate.
It's still buy a flounder a drink month

mitt

#84
October 02, 2008, 10:37:46 AM


This pic looks like contact waiting to happen.  Regardless it is a great looking bike, with a lot of nice work, and will be very cool when it is finished.

mitt

Evil_Ductator

#85
October 02, 2008, 11:19:55 AM
ehh, just go MotoGP style and put smaller front wheel on it :)

Monsterlover

#86
October 02, 2008, 02:34:28 PM
Or move the radiator undertail, do an under bike exhaust and a different cowl to vent the heat

;D
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MotoCreations

#87
October 02, 2008, 03:00:38 PM
If the tire might hit the radiator -- just build a new radiator or modify the existing one.  Pretty easy to do. 

To mount beneath the seat?  it would be a nightmare to put the radiator there-- not enough air volume and too close to the exhaust besides the waterline routing headache that would occur -- you'd have to run the water lines external of the frame which would be fugly at best.

Monsterlover

#88
October 02, 2008, 03:12:32 PM
ARC pulled it off ;D (which is where I got the idea)



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DucHead

#89
October 02, 2008, 03:13:18 PM
Quote from: MotoCreations on October 02, 2008, 03:00:38 PM
...To mount beneath the seat?  it would be a nightmare to put the radiator there-- not enough air volume and too close to the exhaust besides the waterline routing headache that would occur -- you'd have to run the water lines external of the frame which would be fugly at best.



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