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« Reply #510 on: July 20, 2012, 02:38:27 AM »

Trying to install my LeoVince Carbon's on my 2011 796 and I've got two issues:  First, I can't get the two pipes to look the same from the back.  One is either lower or closer to center than the other.  I've tried it a few times and still can't get them even.  Call me picky but they should both come out the back at the same height and angle.

Second, they're not tight.  There's mention of an exhaust gasket in the "instructions"  Roll Eyes but I didn't have one stock and the kit didn't come with them.  Anyone else notice this?  I haven't started it up yet but I'm assuming it'll leak as much around the pipes as what actually comes out the back.

Any help appreciated!  I'd love to get this thing out on the road ASAP. Thanks. ...Steve

I can wiggle my pipes in the socket at the midpipe.  (my 696 with termis did it real bad one one side) the 796 with the arrows a little less, but still there.  My cans came with a tube of goop to smear on the joint...it was like a graphite impregnated grease of some sort...which naturally leaked all over the pipes when it got hot  Roll Eyes  but it wiped up with some WD40. 

Either way, all these aftermarket exhausts are basically a strait shot of pipe...they dont really create enough back pressure to cause that joint to leak much  (then again with the DB killers installed that might be a different story.)

As for the allignment issue your having, pictures would be helpful. One from the tail showing the difference in the two, and one from each side showing how you have the mounting brackets...Im almost suspicious you may have one of the tabs that hang off the frame the wrong-way-round, or the stack different from one side to the other (by stack i mean the order in which the hanger and strap are on the mounting bolt..)

Like i said...pictures pictures pictures.  waytogo
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« Reply #511 on: July 20, 2012, 02:48:01 AM »

I'm currently toying with the idea of buying custom fabricated mufflers and mounting them under the bike using the H-Comp mid-pipe and a fabricated 1-into-2 adapter that would allow the attachment of 2 real mufflers under the seat.

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Keep us posted on how this works out.  I've got the CW fender eliminator with the plate mounted in the low position...even with that it has 2 dimples in the plate where its smacked into the hugger...and Im not even a heavy guy!) If you can get clearance for a pipe under there, I'd love to see what you come up with!  (and I know its been done...Indianapolis ducati has a track 696 with an undertail exhaust... http://indyducati.com/articles/view.asp?id=264 ...but since its a dedicated track bike they were able to ditch the tail light to grab a little more space.)
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« Reply #512 on: July 23, 2012, 04:54:42 PM »

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I haven't started it up yet but I'm assuming it'll leak as much around the pipes as what actually comes out the back
Mine were a little loose around the joints but there was minimal exhaust blowing out anywhere.  Now they've been on a few weeks they're nicely gunked up and much tighter.  No excessive decel pops - prolly less than before - so it's all good.  But yeah, I can't get mine lined up exactly  bang head
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« Reply #513 on: July 28, 2012, 10:31:53 PM »

Here's the Leo Vince ll SBK Carbon on my 796:


Rear view:


Quality was excellent, installing was not quite as good.  The two elbow connectors look the same but they are not.  Had I put the three inch square diagram that poses as instructions under a microscope I would have noticed the different part numbers.  Had to find out the hard way.  One side is still has a little movement in it, nothing I can do seems to make it as solid as the other side.

With the DB killers in the sound is sort of OK at idle, just a bit deeper, but they come to life when the wheels are turning and sound really great (but not that much louder than stock).

DB killers out?  Awesome..... but I'm not sure if it might be a little bit too much for my somewhat aged taste.



So I'm contemplating some minor surgery on the killers (above) to maybe find an in between level.  Anyone have any suggestions as to cuts/holes?

Looks almost identical to mine, lol. As far as the DB killers, I took mine to muffler shop and had then chop about half the length of the DB killer off! The sound is a bit deeper than before, I might drill some holes next and try that.
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« Reply #514 on: January 06, 2013, 05:16:53 PM »

Hey ladies and gents, I'm looking into perhaps upgrading to a termi system.  I like the idea that it comes with a more active ECU and air filter as well as the fact that I love the sound. So while looking through, there is titanium and carbon fibre. I know there is a weight loss advantage with both, but I'm not a track rider (yet). Are there performance/sound differences between the two? I'd appreciate your insight...
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« Reply #515 on: January 06, 2013, 07:13:07 PM »

Hey ladies and gents, I'm looking into perhaps upgrading to a termi system.  I like the idea that it comes with a more active ECU and air filter as well as the fact that I love the sound. So while looking through, there is titanium and carbon fibre. I know there is a weight loss advantage with both, but I'm not a track rider (yet). Are there performance/sound differences between the two? I'd appreciate your insight...

I believe the Ti cans have a catalyst in them...or they get hot enough to have a catalytic affect...something to that effect.  Other than that there should be no difference between them.
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« Reply #516 on: January 06, 2013, 07:26:53 PM »

Ti is homologated if you leave the db killers in. Ragged edge of "civilized".  Cool
http://www.ducati.com/accessories/monster/titanium_homologated_silencers_kit_468/index.do?urlBack=%2Faccessories%2Fsearch%2Findex.do%3FkeyWord%3D%26pageNumber%3D9%26idBikeFamily%3D22%26idModelBike%3D%26idModelYear%3D0%26idCategory%3D0%26nameOrder%3Dasc%26sortOrder%3Dname
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« Reply #517 on: January 06, 2013, 09:25:51 PM »

They do sound different as the materials resonate differently
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« Reply #518 on: January 07, 2013, 05:13:52 AM »

They do sound different as the materials resonate differently

Hmm, good call.  I recal a difference in sound between the 696 with Carbon Termis, and the 796 with Arrows, but I guess I attributed it more to the somewhat conical shape of the termis and the difference in engine displacement more than anything, I hadn't really thought about the difference in material making much difference in sound.
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CW/evotech tail tidy, lightwereks integrated tail light, CRG Arrow bar end mirrors, Duc.ee solenoid eliminator & 696 midpipe, sans charcoal canister, pileon grab bars, Arrow Dark slipons (sans dB killers), Rizoma Zero11's, Rizoma Lux grips, Rizoma rearsets, Rizoma gas cap, 1098R Ohlins forks, IMA Triples, Galfer wave rotors, Brembo radial masters, Rizoma reservoirs, Ohlins DU737, Rizoma bars, 15t AFAM front and 41t supersprox rear sprocket with EK MVXC chain.
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« Reply #519 on: January 07, 2013, 07:30:38 AM »

I know the Carbons sound great. I heard those on the monster I test drove. Personally I'd prefer the "look" of Titanium, but that one reason alone doesn't really make the choice valid.
I could use some teachins on the term/idea of homologated pipes. Is that, from what I gathered contextually, only pertaining to decibels? Does it involve other aspects such as Freeclimb mentioned (a cat con)? In turn making them more/less restrictive?
I went to the termi site, and perhaps they have a sister site, but I found nothing for pipes the make for ducati.

Also, a big question, is it worth it? Is the ECU, filter and pipes from termi a better set-up/deal then a filter, aftermarket pipes and a mapped ECU?

That last question will get very opinion based I'm sure, but we all made the smart decision to own a monster, so I thought the opinions would be worth consideration.
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« Reply #520 on: January 07, 2013, 08:27:32 AM »

reread the entire thread and the closed loop ecu thread, you'll get your answer  waytogo

Go to the Ducati site for info on Termi for Ducati.

Carbon racing exhaust system kit
Dual oval racing silencer kit. Silencers are constructed with a carbon fiber sleeve and removable db killers. Kit includes a dedicated ECU and a replacement high efficiency air filter.
Notes: For racing use only
$  1,635.50

Titanium homologated silencers kit
EU street approved dual oval titanium silencer kit. Constructed from titanium, this pair of silencers makes the bike lighter, and produces a more rich and full engine sound. Kit includes a dedicated ECU and a replacement low-restriction air filter.
Notes: Comply with USA omologation requirements
$  1,977.80
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« Reply #521 on: January 08, 2013, 03:13:09 PM »

I just purchased my new monster yesterday and wow. My only concern is cw slip on. Personally I think it makes the bike look and sound so much better. But I'd really like to know if anyone here can assist me in telling me whether I need the bike tuned or will it damage the engine. Ducati claim it will and will void my warranty. Thanks
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« Reply #522 on: January 08, 2013, 09:36:28 PM »

Lol. now buy our $1600 termi system

tell them prove it
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« Reply #523 on: January 11, 2013, 10:41:35 AM »

Is 1450 a good price for a new carbon termi set?
Anyone seen a better price?
Also, is it the same system regardless of ABS?
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« Reply #524 on: January 11, 2013, 11:00:04 AM »

that seems about the range for the CF.
and no
the ABS vs non-ABS would be different ECUs
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