New S2R 1000 Owner + Advice Seek

[748s]

what bike is this on mate?
paul.

2007 S2R1000

.................Very interesting info. 748! I have never bothered with all the closed loop discussions on the main board ... one becasue it doesn't concern my modest little 800 and two, because it's all beyond my very limited mechanical knowledge...................Sidenote: 748, is it possible that the random flatulence could be fixed by a better tune/tuner with the DP ECU?

I've come to the conclusion that we've been beta testers for the closed loop/cat systems used from 2007 on the S2R1000's. I'm sure Ducati have got a lot of free data to improve future bikes.
The thread on closed loop is tough going, I'm no genius in air/electric/fuel systems. Brad Black has some good articles on this stuff, can't recall if he has a solution yet. Re better tuners, I was going to wait until the 12,000km service was due and see if Ron (flywheels) could do anything with it.

..................Making sure exhaust noise is ACTUALLY coming from the bikes??        .............

I'm not prolific in that department so I got iFart for my iPhone, hours of fun.

............I'd agree regarding the closed loop discussions...the septics have different ecu for their catalytic converters. Every one takes in metric, they go the imperial! everyone goes celcius they go farhenheit, everyone gets a political leader, they go bush (rectified now!).

the 'tuner' is a vital link in the operation! I can verify THAT. eh, ah, Brad Black Inc., ahem....  .................

I've heard there are Euro (we get the Euro) and USA versions of the DP ECU. I've also heard there are 2 versions of the Euro ECU, one for a full system and one for slip ons.
I'm too lazy to bother checking.
My DP ECU part number is,  D96517406B ECU X RAIS.SIDE. SI. MSR1000, if anyone is interested.

I'll drop the stock ECU/airbox in next weekend and do some more comparisons with DP ECU/open airbox (long time since I did it).

I knew I should have done fuel injection at school instead of wasting my time on english, history and stuff like that.

[Spider]

put some ducati stickers on your bike , bloody hurry up and buy a bike your driving us all mad 

I'll take yours over winter then instead of putting it in storage! Thanks brother!

[bazz20]

I'll take yours over winter then instead of putting it in storage! Thanks brother!

thats fine you can wear out the parts of the tyres i dont use , the centre  but do you know how to treat a lady 

[brad black]

spider - i could loan you a 750 engined 600.  apart from the fact the last time i rode it it stopped several times with what i'm guessing is a fuel tap or pump issue.  and the only bling it has is a rack and accident (well, crash really) damage.  i'd fit the megacycle mufflers too if you asked nicely so it'd be more manly sounding.   where's the nelson "point and laugh" little thingy when you need it.

altho i'm not sure if it is insured.  definitely registered.

back to topic - i'm hoping to be able to offer ecu reflashed with dp maps when i get going.  i'm going to buy up a few and have them done so i can have them on the shelf, the actual flashing happens over seas.  not sure how accurate the map would end up being with a full system, etc, but being open loop should help a whole lot.

i can tell you who bought the remaining moto one header pipes if he wanted one of them with say staintunes as opposed to a full system.  a polished header and staintunes would look quite nice on a black one if he likes stainless.  they go a nice gold after a good dyno session too.  it'll be loud too.

[Big T]

back to topic - i'm hoping to be able to offer ecu reflashed with dp maps when i get going.  i'm going to buy up a few and have them done so i can have them on the shelf, the actual flashing happens over seas.  not sure how accurate the map would end up being with a full system, etc, but being open loop should help a whole lot.

Hey Brad this is great news..... And to assist the cause I have a standard ECU out of a 2007 S4RT that I am willing to donate to you for playing with.

I have the DP ECU installed and love it so this one longer required. PM me your address if you want it and it's yours.......

[pju]

I have an 06 S2R1K with 16500k's.
Has a Spark midpipe and runs like a pregnant pig below 2500rpm.
Is almost unrideable below 40KPH due to surging. I have to slip the clutch in 1st at 30KPH ish speeds.
From 2500 to about 3500 rpm is OK but lumpy, doesn't bother me, I like character.
At 4000 to 8000 it is silky smooth and stunning to ride. Another 20HP would be perfect.

Lowering the gearing is not a solution as the fuel range is poor enough and I enjoy not having to tap dance every few seconds on the gear lever. I find the stock gearing fine for open road twisties.

Since all my riding is weekend open road twisty riding its liveable and mostly a lot of fun.
I have been waiting for 2 years for a PCIII or something else to solve this as I cannot afford the $4000 for DP TErmy solution.
Have contemplated selling and going back to Jap, but still hanging in there.
I see Monstermash in USA is offering ECU flashing. Maybe this is who Brad B is refering to.
I'm waiting to see if this is my savior.

Personally I thinks its a disgrace that Ducati releases poorly fueled bikes to Production.
I have a mate who owns a 1098S and its suffers similar fueling issues.

DOn't get me wrong as I love this bike, but it could be lot better without having to contribute more to the boys at Bologna just to get it running right in the first place.

[loony888]

I have an 06 S2R1K with 16500k's.
Has a Spark midpipe and runs like a pregnant pig below 2500rpm.
Is almost unrideable below 40KPH due to surging. I have to slip the clutch in 1st at 30KPH ish speeds.
From 2500 to about 3500 rpm is OK but lumpy, doesn't bother me, I like character.
At 4000 to 8000 it is silky smooth and stunning to ride. Another 20HP would be perfect.

Lowering the gearing is not a solution as the fuel range is poor enough and I enjoy not having to tap dance every few seconds on the gear lever. I find the stock gearing fine for open road twisties.

Since all my riding is weekend open road twisty riding its liveable and mostly a lot of fun.
I have been waiting for 2 years for a PCIII or something else to solve this as I cannot afford the $4000 for DP TErmy solution.
Have contemplated selling and going back to Jap, but still hanging in there.
I see Monstermash in USA is offering ECU flashing. Maybe this is who Brad B is refering to.
I'm waiting to see if this is my savior.

Personally I thinks its a disgrace that Ducati releases poorly fueled bikes to Production.
I have a mate who owns a 1098S and its suffers similar fueling issues.

DOn't get me wrong as I love this bike, but it could be lot better without having to contribute more to the boys at Bologna just to get it running right in the first place.

g,day peter,
about bloody time you got here!

paul.

[pju]

g,day peter,
about bloody time you got here!

paul.

I'm sorry Paul you must have me mistaken for that bloke who you never seem to be able to ride with these days 

[bazz20]

ive had great sucsess with chiping air temp censor and people  here that ive helped are more than happy with the results and even in septic land http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=13313.0

[madalf71]

Howdy all.

Staintunes look and sound well, mine has the noise baffles in at the moment..just noice.
Moto One mid pipe also look the goods, even though my bike is the 800, I've seen both.
It also clears all the drain plugs.
I had the front header pipe polished as well.
As for tuning, FIM ECU, you won't look back.

Spider, if Santa left a 999 under your Xmas tree you'd be out on it straight away.....Then again if I was Santa I'd leave you the reindeer and take the 999!!!!!

Cherrio.

Alf.H.

[748s]

...............As for tuning, FIM ECU, you won't look back.................

Unfortunately they are still trying to get an ECU to work with the stepper motor on closed loop systems (last time I checked anyway).
Had an ultimap chip in a 748, it was great.

[748s]

To refresh my memory, put the stock ECU and stock airbox on the bike this morning and rode it for approx 40km
(using ZARD full system the zard has an opening for the o2 sensor to screw in, stock ECU would activate the sensor)
*Start from cold.
*idle at 1200rpm
*smooth delivery of power from idle up.
*trailing throttle, pops/farts 4 to 5 times then stops poping as rpm drops
*80kmph in 6th gear = 3500rpm
*Engine temp at end 107c


Then dropped in DP ECU and open airbox, same 40km route
(using ZARD full system,  the DP ECU ignores the o2 sensor)
*Start from engine temp at 50celcius (couldn't wait for it to go to 0 celcius)
*idle at 1500rpm (for some reason today it stays at 1500rpm)
*smooth delivery of power from idle up.
*trailing throttle, have to be hard on it to get one pop, (happens randomly)
*80kmph in 6th gear = 3000rpm
*engine temp at end 101c (though ambient temp may have started to drop at this time)

[Betty]

Thanks 748. I think I understand, the DP ECU helps but isn't perfect.

Sooo, with the DP ECU you have more beans but less flatulence 

[madalf71]

Hi, am I missing something?
Was there a gearing change too?

*80kmph in 6th gear = 3500rpm
*80kmph in 6th gear = 3000rpm

Cheers

Madalf.

[bazz20]

To refresh my memory, put the stock ECU and stock airbox on the bike this morning and rode it for approx 40km
(using ZARD full system the zard has an opening for the o2 sensor to screw in, stock ECU would activate the sensor)
*Start from cold.
*idle at 1200rpm
*smooth delivery of power from idle up.
*trailing throttle, pops/farts 4 to 5 times then stops poping as rpm drops
*80kmph in 6th gear = 3500rpm
*Engine temp at end 107c


Then dropped in DP ECU and open airbox, same 40km route
(using ZARD full system,  the DP ECU ignores the o2 sensor)
*Start from engine temp at 50celcius (couldn't wait for it to go to 0 celcius)
*idle at 1500rpm (for some reason today it stays at 1500rpm)
*smooth delivery of power from idle up.
*trailing throttle, have to be hard on it to get one pop, (happens randomly)
*80kmph in 6th gear = 3000rpm
*engine temp at end 101c (though ambient temp may have started to drop at this time)

your o2 censor wont work properly unless the cat is there