New Bill for Loud Motorcycles, NYC

[Statler]

oh shit, that's hysterical!

<saved to hard drive>

Thanks for the laugh, Capo.  Needed it this evening.   

[2001cromo]

Any NYC locals you REALLY need to step up now. Do you realize what happens if this passes? We're all illegal and other states/areas will follow...

http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=16321.msg305447#msg305447

Or maybe another perspective. I can either take a little time off work (or whatever my busy life has for me today)  to do my best to get this bill to not pass or I can't ride my motorcycle "legally" anymore.

NYC riders, what have you done today to not let bill 416 pass?

[ducatiz]

NYC riders, what have you done today to not let bill 416 pass?

i made voodoo dolls of all the council members and especially Mayor Bloomturd and put bread mold on the crotches.

[Howie]

I was down at my Council Member's office today.  I didn't speak to him directly but did speak to someone on his staff.  I believe I made headway, he even called Gersen's office and was...um, shall I say somewhat surprised to find out the whole thing was based on the factory embossed EPA certification on the pipe.  The Power Point was a great help, fantastic job, ToXiK .  Every little bit helps!  See ToXiK's post over in  NYMMC     

http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=16321.msg306292#msg306292

See ya down at City hall tomorrow, cromo.  I do hope to see other DMFrs there too!

[Howie]

i made voodoo dolls of all the council members and especially Mayor Bloomturd and put bread mold on the crotches.

Thank you

[2001cromo]

i made voodoo dolls of all the council members and especially Mayor Bloomturd and put bread mold on the crotches.

You're a good man Charlie Brown!

See you at City hall tomorrow Howie, I'll call you in the am to discuss.

[erkishhorde]

Do you realize what happens if this passes? We're all illegal and other states/areas will follow...

I dunno about that slippery slope assumption but I do feel that the bill should be stopped. Other states haven't adopted the "no bikes in HOV lanes."

Best of luck East Coasters. 

[TiNi]

my fingers are crossed for you!
go get 'em guys!

[ducatiz]

I dunno about that slippery slope assumption but I do feel that the bill should be stopped. Other states haven't adopted the "no bikes in HOV lanes."

Best of luck East Coasters. 

That's not a good comparison -- banning bikes in HOV is forbidden by FedLaw and NYC/NYPD has been taken to court over it -- and they will lose.

Tightening up bike enforcement and rules is another issue.  NYC says they are planning to aggressively enforce EPA/DOT rules on bikes -- but not cars.  That is the difference here.  If they planned to up enforcement on EVERY vehicle (i.e. high fines, towing on the spot, etc) then there would be little argument.

[Howie]

That's not a good comparison -- banning bikes in HOV is forbidden by FedLaw and NYC/NYPD has been taken to court over it -- and they will lose.

Tightening up bike enforcement and rules is another issue.  NYC says they are planning to aggressively enforce EPA/DOT rules on bikes -- but not cars.  That is the difference here.  If they planned to up enforcement on EVERY vehicle (i.e. high fines, towing on the spot, etc) then there would be little argument.

The other problem is the percentage of of bikes that are legal but will be ticketed. 
By our very own ToXic:
http://www.industrialgrrrl.com/temp/

[EvilSteve]

Nice work, hopefully this will get through but I'm not holding my breath.

[TiNi]

nice presentation michelle 

[NYCmonster]

I dunno about that slippery slope assumption but I do feel that the bill should be stopped. Other states haven't adopted the "no bikes in HOV lanes."

Best of luck East Coasters. 

The one council member pushing this bill has a history against motorcycles. I believe the EPA stamp idea this time around was based on what Denver did. So yes, you could possible see this happen to a city/town near you in the future.

[Howie]

I dunno about that slippery slope assumption but I do feel that the bill should be stopped. Other states haven't adopted the "no bikes in HOV lanes."

Best of luck East Coasters. 

http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=17450.msg308161#new

[EvilSteve]

I'm not going to go back and find my posts but this is what I meant when I said we need to start regulating ourselves before people who have no idea feel compelled to do something. I like a nice exhaust as much as the next person but we have to be a little more reasonable about what we're using on the street and recognize who our choices effect.