Internet Rant

[erkishhorde]

Get the 'rents on your side and push him out.  Sounds like he's going nowhere fast and is pulling other people down with him. If the house is currently on cable, get DSL wired to your room or vise-versus. Also, a lock your door can go a long way. I'm not talking push button locks cause you pop those open no problem. I'm talking key lock. Of course if you're at home you Xbox and whatnot might also be in the living room hooked up to the family TV. I know it seems juvenile, but have you talked to you parent's about it? I don't mean whining like a little kid obviously.

[mitt]

No apartments in your town?

When I was 18, I moved out, went to school, and never lived at my parents house again - even during summer breaks.  I just don't get why anyone 18 or older would want to be dependent on parents and live in a situation that sucked.

Your parents must be too lenient on you guys.  Time for them to take the teat out of his mouth and make him become a man.

mitt

[Capo]

Time for them to take the teats out of both your mouths and make you become men.

Fixed

[He Man]

sheesh. its cultural difference. I moved out for a year and went on my own @ Florida State University.

No apartments in your town?

When I was 18, I moved out, went to school, and never lived at my parents house again - even during summer breaks.  I just don't get why anyone 18 or older would want to be dependent on parents and live in a situation that sucked.

I had this whole thing typed out, but ill just settle by saying this, no one wants to depend on parents, but have you looked into getting an apt in NYC, a job to sustain the place, and go to school, 17 credits a semester for engineering? Im litteraly in school about 10 hours a day. And yes i lived on my own for a year while attending Florida State University.

Here is how NYC Cost of living looks like.....Studio apt, not more than 100sq ft costs ~$1000 + utlities + MTA per month. If you can find a job in this city where your situation didnt suck as much as living at home and jsut going to school trying to grind it out asap, let me know, id do it in a heart beat.

Maybe its a cultural thing, or a generation thing, or something that im not getting.

[Popeye the Sailor]

Cultural smultural. You'd end up working your tail off, falling asleep in school, and eventually failing. Not worth it, IMO.


Finish off school and get out. It'd be different if you weren't degree making. Sometimes, exspecially in places that are terribly expensive to live, it's just really not all that feasible to live solo.



Screw "manning up"-look at it the smart way. You'll start off in life with probably less debt, less expenses for the remainder of the school career (please, anyone explain to me why spending at least an additional $1200/month that he doesn't have to spend is the wise choice), and you won't just be beat to shit.



For those of you who will feel inclined to chime in with the typical "I worked three full time jobs and put myself through school" blather, feel free to stuff it. Don't begin to tell me you enjoyed that, or thought you got the most out of your studies by working 60 hours a week then studying standing up so you don't fall asleep. It's not healthy, and it's not worth it.


Stay home, make the most of it, and get out when the time is right.

[jdubbs32584]

Why do you have to have an apartment? What about just renting a room?


I moved out, carried a full course load and a full time job. Its definitely doable.



And I guess I'll stuff it now. 

[Statler]

Cultural smultural. You'd end up working your tail off, falling asleep in school, and eventually failing. Not worth it, IMO.


Finish off school and get out. It'd be different if you weren't degree making. Sometimes, exspecially in places that are terribly expensive to live, it's just really not all that feasible to live solo.



Screw "manning up"-look at it the smart way. You'll start off in life with probably less debt, less expenses for the remainder of the school career (please, anyone explain to me why spending at least an additional $1200/month that he doesn't have to spend is the wise choice), and you won't just be beat to shit.



For those of you who will feel inclined to chime in with the typical "I worked three full time jobs and put myself through school" blather, feel free to stuff it. Don't begin to tell me you enjoyed that, or thought you got the most out of your studies by working 60 hours a week then studying standing up so you don't fall asleep. It's not healthy, and it's not worth it.


Stay home, make the most of it, and get out when the time is right.

I agree with this except I'd add one thing...don't whine on the internet about your life when doing it this way.   You've got it cushy so don't pregnant dog and moan....take advantage of it while you can and count your blessings.  Post about how wonderfull it is that you have been given the opportunity you have and not about how slow your internet connection is.  You'll come across as greatfull instead of spoiled.

[mitt]

I agree with this except I'd add one thing...don't whine on the internet about your life when doing it this way.   You've got it cushy so don't pregnant dog and moan....take advantage of it while you can and count your blessings.  Post about how wonderfull it is that you have been given the opportunity you have and not about how slow your internet connection is.  You'll come across as greatfull instead of spoiled.

don't post a rant on advrider either, they will really hurt your feelings 

mitt

[He Man]

I agree with this except I'd add one thing...don't whine on the internet about your life when doing it this way.   You've got it cushy so don't pregnant dog and moan....take advantage of it while you can and count your blessings.  Post about how wonderfull it is that you have been given the opportunity you have and not about how slow your internet connection is.  You'll come across as greatfull instead of spoiled.

Yea, you know, you are definitely right. I was whining about annoying siblings, i figure it was a common thing to have a bad sibling. but some how ended up as this.

Why do you have to have an apartment? What about just renting a room?
I moved out, carried a full course load and a full time job. Its definitely doable.
And I guess I'll stuff it now. 

Heres my train of thought, if i were to move, i should move closer to school (1.5hours away). School is in Manhattan. Manhattan is expensive (~$800 for a room + utilities). And what Mr. Incredible said. i know too many 24 year olds that are doing 12 credits a semester and doing part time jobs, failing classes etc. not worth screwing up my life over something trival. I just want good internet!

Im banning myself for tonight! later folks!

[Howie]

A less expensive option is split an apartment with other engineering that is within walking distance to school.  The money you save on commuting can go towards rent, plus you will save a bunch of time commuting.  Maybe the parents would chip in a few dollars.  That said, I agree with MrIncredible, if you can cope with the home life, grin and bear it. 

[mitt]

A less expensive option is split an apartment with other engineering that is within walking distance to school.  The money you save on commuting can go towards rent, plus you will save a bunch of time commuting.  Maybe the parents would chip in a few dollars.  That said, I agree with MrIncredible, if you can cope with the home life, grin and bear it. 

Living on your own also has merits you can't put a price on.  Fiscal responsibility, building credit with utility companies, real world experience dealing with landlords and leasing.  Not to mention the memories from extracurricular activities you can do in your own place that M&D wouldn't approve of 

My apartment in Ames IA circa 1996 was 800/month + utilities.  We had 2 people living there.  If cost was really an issue, you probably wouldn't be spending time on a Ducati forum - I know I didn't have the time or money to think about expensive toys when I was 20.

mitt

[il d00d]

MrIncredible said it.  You don't work and got to school full time if you have options.  You give up reliable upstream throughput and the ability to complain in exchange for free (or cheap) room and board.  That's a bargain, and a smart one.

The only thing I'll add is that this is a brother rant cleverly disguised as an internet rant.  Your best shot at improved quality of life is putting on your emotionally mature adult hat and finding some way to peacefully coexist with your brother.  Even if he doesn't reciprocate, that's something that pays personal dividends.

Good luck with the brother and your studies...

[He Man]

A less expensive option is split an apartment with other engineering that is within walking distance to school.  The money you save on commuting can go towards rent, plus you will save a bunch of time commuting.  Maybe the parents would chip in a few dollars.  That said, I agree with MrIncredible, if you can cope with the home life, grin and bear it. 

Actually a few of us thought of renting a room and splitting the cost and using it was a place to just sleep during the school week when we got out of class late. Its still in the works for fall semester, i wouldnt be spending anything more than ~100 bucks a month.

mitt, i lived in a 3 man apt @ FSU....i know all about .  I learened alot that one year, and have been building up my credit since then. I have way more credit than i need right now and i think im on a pretty good start. As for the bike, its not a toy, its a form of transportation that saves me $25 a week cause im not giving it to the train nazis.

il d00d, how do you propose i peacefully coexist with my brother? ive been trying to be cool with him for a long time, but he always has to flip out about something. Me not talking to him for the past year has been the most peace ive had in this house since i was born. My mom is always saying i should make up with him because he is family... but i wouldnt know how to. The older we get, the less forgiving and forgetting we can do if they keep on abusing it. Im surprised no one else has a make the beast with two backsed up sibling like i do.

[hbliam]

il d00d, how do you propose i peacefully coexist with my brother? ive been trying to be cool with him for a long time, but he always has to flip out about something. Me not talking to him for the past year has been the most peace ive had in this house since i was born. My mom is always saying i should make up with him because he is family... but i wouldnt know how to. The older we get, the less forgiving and forgetting we can do if they keep on abusing it. Im surprised no one else has a make the beast with two backsed up sibling like i do.

The older you get the more forgiving you should be. It's your brother! When you are at the end of lifes road your degree, your Monster, your internet connection are going to be the last thing on your mind. You will never say "I wish I had spent more time at work." Your family is more important then any squabble you had in the past.

Man up. Tell your brother you love him no matter how much of an asshole he is to you. Spend some time with him. You may find out you have more in common with him then you think.

[il d00d]

Im surprised no one else has a make the beast with two backsed up sibling like i do.

I do, and probably worse. 

Lemme start by saying that I reread my post and I probably came across as more harsh than intended.  You really seem to be holding up your end of the sibling bargain, and -from what you just offered- then some.  But no matter how you slice it, from a high level, not talking and not interacting with your brother except to exchange acts of petty aggression does not sound too mature, from either party's perspective, and no matter whose fault it is.  I am sure he has his side of the story.  I bet it goes "he uses every opportunity to call me a loser, make fun of my baldness" ad nauseum

Point being, I can't and probably no one can figure that out.  I would bet a shiny nickel that if you did some soul searching you probably already know what you need to do, it would just be too painful to do it willingly.  It might mean being nicer to him, even though you consider him an albatross of a brother, and you think he doesn't deserve sympathy...I dunno.  I'm not gonna Dr Phil you - that's just what I am reading from it.

Again though, good luck with it