oops

[sleeperbold]

Don't seem crazy?
What would you call naming your kids those names?
Don't tell me you'd be surprised when they are picked on, beaten up, and miserable, daily.
What sick SOB does that to someone they care about?

Again, I would not name my kids that. I have a unique name and I can appreciate the various troubles associated with going to school and not being named John, Bill, Mike, or Jason etc.

But what would I call "naming your kids those names"? 

I would call it Personal Preference. 

Just as I have a personal preference for riding a Ducati, eating hazelnut gelato, or naming my dog Rubens after F1 racer Rubens Barrichello.  If the kids don't like it, then one day when they are adults, they can change there name to John Smith or whatever they like. But it's not the gov'ts place, or ours for that matter, to tell these parents how to raise there kids or what to name them. Sure, if there is proof of the usual abuses (mental, physical, sexual) then yeah do something, but no one can prove that simply giving a child a name some, even most, may find controversial is abuse.

And btw, I know people that think Ducati owners are "sick SOBs" for putting up with high maintenance costs etc... I think the word is "Perspective" 

[Bun-bun]

Again, I would not name my kids that. I have a unique name and I can appreciate the various troubles associated with going to school and not being named John, Bill, Mike, or Jason etc.

But what would I call "naming your kids those names"? 

I would call it Personal Preference. 

Just as I have a personal preference for riding a Ducati, eating hazelnut gelato, or naming my dog Rubens after F1 racer Rubens Barrichello.  If the kids don't like it, then one day when they are adults, they can change there name to John Smith or whatever they like. But it's not the gov'ts place, or ours for that matter, to tell these parents how to raise there kids or what to name them. Sure, if there is proof of the usual abuses (mental, physical, sexual) then yeah do something, but no one can prove that simply giving a child a name some, even most, may find controversial is abuse.

And btw, I know people that think Ducati owners are "sick SOBs" for putting up with high maintenance costs etc... I think the word is "Perspective" 

+2

[COWBOY]

Again, I would not name my kids that. I have a unique name and I can appreciate the various troubles associated with going to school and not being named John, Bill, Mike, or Jason etc.

But what would I call "naming your kids those names"? 

I would call it Personal Preference. 

Just as I have a personal preference for riding a Ducati, eating hazelnut gelato, or naming my dog Rubens after F1 racer Rubens Barrichello.  If the kids don't like it, then one day when they are adults, they can change there name to John Smith or whatever they like. But it's not the gov'ts place, or ours for that matter, to tell these parents how to raise there kids or what to name them. Sure, if there is proof of the usual abuses (mental, physical, sexual) then yeah do something, but no one can prove that simply giving a child a name some, even most, may find controversial is abuse.

And btw, I know people that think Ducati owners are "sick SOBs" for putting up with high maintenance costs etc... I think the word is "Perspective" 

+3

well said.  naming a child poorly does not equate to child abuse.

[Mother]

+3

well said.  naming a child poorly does not equate to child abuse.

bullshit

naming your kid Adolph Hitler in europe is like naming your kid N***er Hater in the U.S. and sending him to an all black school

abuse will happen because of it

[Popeye the Sailor]

Again, I would not name my kids that. I have a unique name and I can appreciate the various troubles associated with going to school and not being named John, Bill, Mike, or Jason etc.

But what would I call "naming your kids those names"? 

I would call it Personal Preference. 

Just as I have a personal preference for riding a Ducati, eating hazelnut gelato, or naming my dog Rubens after F1 racer Rubens Barrichello.  If the kids don't like it, then one day when they are adults, they can change there name to John Smith or whatever they like. But it's not the gov'ts place, or ours for that matter, to tell these parents how to raise there kids or what to name them. Sure, if there is proof of the usual abuses (mental, physical, sexual) then yeah do something, but no one can prove that simply giving a child a name some, even most, may find controversial is abuse.

And btw, I know people that think Ducati owners are "sick SOBs" for putting up with high maintenance costs etc... I think the word is "Perspective" 

No, just no , I'm not saying naming kids like that is abuse. That has not been said by anyone in this thread. I've been saying it's make the beast with two backsing stupid,  not abuse. What I AM making noise about is anyone saying those kids should not be taken away from their family because of their names. We don't know why they were taken away. We don't, so people saying this is fascist and unacceptable-well, we don't know that.

[COWBOY]

bullshit

naming your kid Adolph Hitler in europe is like naming your kid N***er Hater in the U.S. and sending him to an all black school

abuse will happen because of it

Or naming your kid Hussein in this country.  Oops wait a minute.   

Free Speech isn't a right of convenience.  Nor is it a popularity contest.  The parents have the right to name their kids anything they want for whatever reason they want. 

I am against everything I've read about these people politically but I'd defend their rights to my last breath, period.

[Mother]

Or naming your kid Hussein in this country.  Oops wait a minute.   

Free Speech isn't a right of convenience.  Nor is it a popularity contest.  The parents have the right to name their kids anything they want for whatever reason they want. 

I am against everything I've read about these people politically but I'd defend their rights to my last breadth, period.

sure, I agree with you

if they lived in the US

but they don't



and as a side note

hussein is a common name throughout persia

it doesn't even come close to the anamosity felt in Europe over Adolp Hiter

Saddam might be different

but

he gassed a few hundred thousand

He didn't start WW2

[Gator]

Maybe they should have not made such a big deal about a make the beast with two backsing birthday cake.... Or learn to bake a cake.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#28286392

[Desmostro]

Or naming your kid Hussein in this country.  Oops wait a minute.   

Free Speech isn't a right of convenience.  Nor is it a popularity contest.  The parents have the right to name their kids anything they want for whatever reason they want. 

I am against everything I've read about these people politically but I'd defend their rights to my last breadth, period.

+3

Ya free speech, good
Bad names, kinda stupid, but stupid is a right like speech***

+4
Why they were taken away???

I think this story would never have gotten press amongst all the seriously abused kids everywhere getting taken away.
This story seems to have got big ONLY because of their names. They are being made a circus of because of it. See "right to be stupid"***
I kind of have this visual of a kid chained to a toilette and a shotgun in the corner, pit pull asleep in baby crib... - ALL ASSUMPTIONS. See "right to be stupid"***

[COWBOY]

No, just no , I'm not saying naming kids like that is abuse. That has not been said by anyone in this thread.

See Mothers post above yours

sure, I agree with you

if they lived in the US

but they don't



and as a side note

hussein is a common name throughout persia it doesn't even come close to the anamosity felt in Europe over Adolp Hiter.  Saddam might be different but
he gassed a few hundred thousand  He didn't start WW2

1.  if Barracks parents weren't US citizens he wouldn't be eligible for President.  So arguing his name is Persian is about as dumb as my arguing Adolf is a common Austrian name.  In either case arguing either is a stupid exercise because neither means squat about the person so named.

2.  To MrI's point we don't know if there's more to the story -- yet.   Up to this point the only thing that has been reported to be outside the norm is the names.

3.  You may want to live in a place where you are protected from things that might lead to abuse or damage or personal pain and where a Mother State guarantees you only hear the things that make you feel warm and IZ_.  Unfortunately our Constitution guarantees otherwise, thank god.

[Desmostro]

Just to throw gas on the fire: 

The 3rd child is named after:

"Heinrich Luitpold Himmler head of the Schutzstaffel (SS).  As SS he oversaw all police and security forces, including the Gestapo.

As overseer of concentration camps, extermination camps, and Einsatzgruppen (literally: task forces, often used as killing squads), Himmler coordinated the killing of millions of Jews, between 200,000 and 500,000 Roma,[1][2] many prisoners of war, and possibly another three to four million Poles, communists, or other groups whom the Nazis deemed unworthy to live or simply 'in the way', which included homosexuals and those with physical and mental disabilities.  " 

I'm trying to wrap my head around this. wow. I guess that's the point of all the media.

[sleeperbold]

Yeah, I don't think anyone would argue that naming your children in the manner that this couple did is not the smartest idea, for any number of reasons.  However, I prefer to live next to, and have beers with ( i add this part simply because i am not white), with a guy named Adolf Hitler Campbell than to live in a country where what you name your children, among other things, has to be approved by the govt. Yes there are countries out there like that. I believe Sweden is among them (something about a couple wanting to name their kid "Metallica") and in Germany it is actually against the law to name your child Adolf.  Mr Incredible is right, the kids could have been taken away for any number of reasons, maybe they had a meth lab in the basement or something, and the story is getting press because of the controversial names.

[Mother]

See Mothers post above yours


1.  if Barracks parents weren't US citizens he wouldn't be eligible for President.  So arguing his name is Persian is about as dumb as my arguing Adolf is a common Austrian name.  In either case arguing either is a stupid exercise because neither means squat about the person so named.

What?

what does that have to do with anything?

Hussein is a persian name

and a common one

it means king

Adolph may very well be a common name in austria and germany

Adolph Hitler is not

You can tout free speach and free choice all you want to

naming your kid Adolph Hitler is stupid and nanny state or not

it is cruel to do to your child

you might get a way with it here with some looks and head shakes

In Europe it is going to get you beaten

[COWBOY]

What?

what does that have to do with anything?

Hussein is a persian name

and a common one

it means king

Adolph may very well be a common name in austria and germany

Adolph Hitler is not

You can tout free speach and free choice all you want to

naming your kid Adolph Hitler is stupid and nanny state or not

it is cruel to do to your child

you might get a way with it here with some looks and head shakes

In Europe it is going to get you beaten

Didn't realize

NJ

was now

part of Europe. 

My

Bad.




Disturbing?

Yes.

Criminal?

No.

Child Abuse?

or

Child Endangerment?

No.

Do you

also

Burn

Books?

[Mother]

Didn't realize

NJ

was now

part of Europe. 

My

Bad.




Disturbing?

Yes.

Criminal?

No.

Child Abuse?

or

Child Endangerment?

No.

Do you

also

Burn

Books?

 

I read "holland"

<brakes>

Since this did happen on US soil then...well shit

I'm wrong