Unemployment

Started by cyrus buelton, February 20, 2009, 06:21:51 PM

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I just fired an employee last week for cause. I won't get into specifics, but it was a just termination and she was given several opportunities to tell the truth, but failed to.


She will file for unemployment and get it.

The state of Ohio apparently lets terminated employees receive benefits.
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Quote from: ducpainter on February 20, 2009, 06:47:02 PM
It's none of your business.

It's his money.

+1

It isn't any of our business.  He made no agreement or was given no rules on what he can do with his benefits. 

Spending the majority of the payment in a bar is not a wise move.  The bar owner probably doesn't mind.  What are you going to do?  He probably thinks he's getting one over on the system. 

You can't stop people from doing stupid things.

If he was using food stamps at the bar then I would be pissed!




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Quote from: cyrus buelton on February 21, 2009, 12:46:09 PM
The state of Ohio apparently lets terminated employees receive benefits.

Not just OH, Vermont is the same.

Someone I know (not me) got fired from her job and is now collecting unemployment. 
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Quote from: howie on February 21, 2009, 06:45:19 AM
Zakly, not to mention his bar tab money may come from the countless thousands saved while working.  I suppose I shouldn't go to the bar and spend money from my Social Security check either.
I'm gonna spend every nickel of my SSI on booze and expensive hookers....and motorcycle tires...and cigarettes...and any other damn thing I please.

Just like I'd do with my unemployment money if I were eligible for it.
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As far as I'm concerned , anyone who works for the Government is on unemployment.  

They neither make anything tangible or produce anything that ads to the GDP.    Dolph




 
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Quote from: DoubleEagle on February 21, 2009, 02:16:39 PM
As far as I'm concerned , anyone who works for the Government is on unemployment.  

They neither make anything tangible or produce anything that ads to the GDP.    Dolph




 
But we won't go there...

right?
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Quote from: needtorque on February 20, 2009, 06:31:52 PM
I think after 7 years of gainful employment I was entitled to a little bit of that. 

^^^That sentence right there says so much about what is wrong with the American workforce today.  Here's a clue, hero: you aren't entitled to live off the hard work of others (which is what unemployment is, since your contribution doesn't cover you completely).  You do have the right to your life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.
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Quote from: ducpainter on February 21, 2009, 02:19:02 PM
But we won't go there...

right?
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Quote from: Sinister on February 21, 2009, 02:32:33 PM
^^^That sentence right there says so much about what is wrong with the American workforce today.  Here's a clue, hero: you aren't entitled to live off the hard work of others (which is what unemployment is, since your contribution doesn't cover you completely).  You do have the right to your life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.

I guarantee you after I worked there for 7 years that the little bit of unemployment I collected was more than paid for with what I alone contributed.  I was living off my own hard work and if you cant understand that little bit of information then you should not be contributing to this topic.
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Quote from: cyrus buelton on February 20, 2009, 06:49:33 PM

That the state gave him, that all of the citizens paid in.

I realize it is "his money" but come on.

I guess that's a problem with unemployment on how it is distributed.

Actually that's not entirely true.

Unemployment check amounts are paid to someone based entirely off of what they've paid into it.  There is no set amount given to everyone or even a generic scale like welfare.

Every paycheck you pay an unemployment tax as part of your payroll taxes (not income taxes).  Your employer likewise has to match that tax payment.  It goes into the system and should you get laid off it is that pool of money that is used to determine the amount you receive.  The length of time you can receive a check is determined by both fed and state law and as such can vary a little.   A full year is beyond the reach of most plans.

So especially in this case it really is his money and he can do whatever the hell he wants with it.  I'd hope he is also using it to get by and do what's necessary to get a job so he doesn't end up on the welfare rolls as well though.

As far as who can receive benefits.   Firing someone doesn't mean they aren't eligible.  Firing someone for cause ("misconduct or substantial fault") will result in them not receiving payments.



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in CA the max is 900 bucks every two weeks.

they allow you a years worth based on what you/your employer put in. I'm not sure what happens after a year.
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I can understand peoples frustrations on both sides of the issue, those who feel they have contributed and should be compensated and those who feel there are too many milking the system. 

I don't care where you stand.  If you're working, save what you can.  Your job is not guaranteed!  You may lose that job and may be forced to collect unemployment.  Those checks are not intended for you to live off of.  Save for a rainy day!  You never know when you might need it.   ;)

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Quote from: DoubleEagle on February 21, 2009, 02:16:39 PM
As far as I'm concerned , anyone who works for the Government is on unemployment.  

They neither make anything tangible or produce anything that ads to the GDP.    Dolph




 


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Quote from: bobspapa on February 21, 2009, 04:34:49 PM
in CA the max is 900 bucks every two weeks.

they allow you a years worth based on what you/your employer put in. I'm not sure what happens after a year.

I think they shoot you now.  :P


Actually, your employer pays into an insurance program - so it depends on how long you've been working. The law is, ONLY if you qualify, your employer's insurance must pay for X number of months, then when that runs out the employer must pay out of pocket. I think only after a very long time - each state varies IMO - it's guaranteed by the state's insurance. You paid for the insurance out of each pay check typically, and then you paid for the state guaranteed aspect with income tax on top of that.

Basically, you paid for your unenjoyment pay. It's not like England where you can 'live on the dole,' where the unemployment comes from the queen.
And it's not welfare. This is money that each employee/employer has put into.




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