Unemployment

[ducpainter]

That the state gave him, that all of the citizens paid in.

I realize it is "his money" but come on.

I guess that's a problem with unemployment on how it is distributed.

Unemployment benefits were paid by his employer.

Not the taxpayers.

Seriously...if you work for someone and pay taxes it is an entitlement...limited by law, but there nonetheless.

Your tune might change with the economic climate what it is.

I sincerely hope that doesn't happen to anyone, but if it does I won't judge them because they go to a bar and smoke cigarettes...or however they decide to spend their 'Unemployment Compensation Benefits'

Funny you say that.


After being on unemployment for 18 months, he has recently found a social program to help him get a job back in his field with extra training, even providing a computer to him.........



His benefits end on Monday.

That is a totally different scenario.

Why do you spring that in the end?

Is it to be assumed that everyone that loses their job is a slacker?

[needtorque]

During the 9 months you did collect, how many jobs did you apply for?



This guy said he has been on unemployment for 18 months.



How could he not have found a job in that time period?

Absolutely, I applied for many positions in the automotive repair business as that is what I was in school for.  I tried to land an entry level position at many dealerships but they were not hiring or just did not like me I dont know.  The degree was more of a "just need it for show" thing because I had the experience and the knowledge.  As I stated I could have gotten a shit job but there is no way I could have made enough money to pay the basic bills without working 2 jobs and that would have meant no school and I would have gotten trapped in that loop.  As soon as I finished school I moved from MI to SC and had a job within 2 weeks of school being complete.  I did not wait to "walk" or any of that crap.  The point is people who use unemployment as a temporary means to an end are not the problem.  It is the fat slobs that work just long enough for benefits and then find a way to lose their jobs and collect who are the problem here.

[cyrus buelton]

Your tune might change with the economic climate what it is.

Why do you spring that in the end?

Is it to be assumed that everyone that loses their job is a slacker?

If I was receiving unemployment, the last place that I would be is in a bar drinking. I will stand by that.


No, I am not saying that everyone is a slacker.

But apparently this guy is.

I mean come on, 18 months and when his benefits run out......he found a solution?

[DoubleEagle]

Ohio as I know it today is one of the most difficult states to find meaningful employment in the U.S. What I am saying is to find a job that pays what the job you had paid.

My g/f has a job where she has worked for over 20 years. She has known for the last year that her Company will be consolidating and she will loose her position.

She has been sending out resumes and talking to perspective Employers for the last year and she has yet to find a job that comes anywhere close to paying what she has been making .

She has a Mortgage and some other fixed liabilities that dictate she earn better than average income that lower level jobs pay .

So far she has had no real good prospects.

She could not pay her bills on Unemployment. She is not an extravagant person such as I.

Ohio just sucks for jobs especially now and especially in South Central , Ohio.           ( but it has some of the best twisties  )

[cyrus buelton]

( but it has some of the best twisties  )

shhhh, don't tell people that, they think Ohio is flat.





I do agree with what you said about the area of Ohio you are speaking of.

There isn't much going there. Same with Cleveland.

Job market in Columbus seems to be pretty decent, which is where this guy lives.

[DoubleEagle]

shhhh, don't tell people that, they think Ohio is flat.





I do agree with what you said about the area of Ohio you are speaking of.

There isn't much going there. Same with Cleveland.

Job market in Columbus seems to be pretty decent, which is where this guy lives.

OHIO is FLAT .................. just not where I live !      Dolph

[Chchadder]

Unemployment benefits were paid by his employer.

Not the taxpayers.

Seriously...if you work for someone and pay taxes it is an entitlement...limited by law, but there nonetheless.

Thank you Nate for making the distinction of who actually pays for unemployment.  That's why crappy employers (like my former employer) often try to find reasons to fire people that allow them to fight or deny paying unemployment benefits.

[Desmostro]

How is anyone pretending to know anything about this dude who is on unemployment accept that he's on unemployment?
Do we even know what he did/wants to do?
Do we know how much of his own savings he's spending on beers?

Fak, unemployment is $450 a week MAX before taxes in Cal. That doesn't even pay my rent.
Not exactly the high-life. 

My ex-company just axed 6,000 people. Everyone got it. So many of them are fk'ed, loosing houses and shit.
No, unemployment is not the lap of luxury. 
cheers

[DoubleEagle]

Just glad I  never had to be unemployed after I found my last job of 30 + years.     Dolph   

[Drunken Monkey]

I've never collected unemployment.

If I ever do, I'm gonna do whatever the hell I want with the money.

Why? It's unemployment INSURANCE.

If I paid my bike insurance for 30 years and never got into an accident then one day I totaled my bike I wouldn't think "aww shucks. I don't really want to bother the insurance company."

In short: it's his money, if he wants a new career as a barfly and can afford it on unemployment, more power to him.

[Howie]

I've never collected unemployment.

If I ever do, I'm gonna do whatever the hell I want with the money.

Why? It's unemployment INSURANCE.

If I paid my bike insurance for 30 years and never got into an accident then one day I totaled my bike I wouldn't think "aww shucks. I don't really want to bother the insurance company."

In short: it's his money, if he wants a new career as a barfly and can afford it on unemployment, more power to him.

Zakly, not to mention his bar tab money may come from the countless thousands saved while working.  I suppose I shouldn't go to the bar and spend money from my Social Security check either.

[Speedbag]

I've never collected unemployment.

If I ever do, I'm gonna do whatever the hell I want with the money.

Why? It's unemployment INSURANCE.

If I paid my bike insurance for 30 years and never got into an accident then one day I totaled my bike I wouldn't think "aww shucks. I don't really want to bother the insurance company."

In short: it's his money, if he wants a new career as a barfly and can afford it on unemployment, more power to him.

+2

I've been on unenjoyment twice now in the last decade due to plant closings/layoffs, just under a month either time. I personally saved as much as I could while on it (not that there was much left after bills), never knowing how long I'd need it. I don't frequent bars much, but if I did I probably still would have gone if on unemployment.

My wife's hours were cut this past week back to 32 so who knows if she'll "get" to "milk" the system soon, or for how long. Could be the difference of us keeping the house or not, depending on what happens for me and my new job. We still won't be going to the bars, but will spend the money as we see fit if it comes to it.

[Grampa]

I get unemployment.

Do I want it....nope. I'd rather be working.

But I'm gonn'a take it. But only because  I worked for it. I worked for a guy who paid taxes, paid the state and paid the feds, and in doing that.... I earned a lower wage. Had I worked under the states and federal radar, I could have brought home more, but had no insurance, if I was let go.


So with my check.... I make a bike payment, a truck payment, insurance payments, part of  the mortgage payment.... and I  treat myselt to an ocasional beer.

I also bought some friends breakfast yesterday.... am I a mooch who's living off the government?

[cyrus buelton]

No, you are not.

You are paying the bills that you need to.

An occasional beer, I have no problem with.

Taking some friends to breakfast? Not a problem.

Mooch? No, you are not.


A guy racking up 75$ bar bills 4 times a week....................

that is an issue

[Grampa]

No, you are not.

You are paying the bills that you need to.

An occasional beer, I have no problem with.

Taking some friends to breakfast? Not a problem.

Mooch? No, you are not.


A guy racking up 75$ bar bills 4 times a week....................

that is an issue

he's a dumb ass.... and there are no laws out there to save people from themselves.

the system is rather scary. it's real easy...... and as much as I like the easy of it.... it's real scary.

no hoops to jump through other than a two second phone interview.

no visits to an office, it's all done on line and via the snail mail. check box, click........ instant  money


as a tax payer.... (and yes, they take taxes out of your unemployment check), you have to divorce yourself from the idea that people will do the right thing with the money.... much like I had to do with seeing how my ex spent the child support money. is it right.... nope, but the only two options are..... a larger government workforce established to oversee how funds are distributed (and who wants that).... or you eliminate the program entirely (and that hurts those of us who are in a temporary pickle)

or...... we take the guy out back an curb some sense into him