Traded in the wife's car

[acalles]

I keep trying to talk the wife into one...she wants the tiguan, but I want her to get the toureg...It looks like it might be more fun for playing around offroad....and I want the TDI

Get the Toureg over the tiguan.

the tiguan is using a japanese made transmission, a 09A variant. they are the most problematic transmissions volkswagen has ever used IMHO.

the Toureg uses a much better, damn near bullet proof trans.

From my experiance, I'd get a v8 with steel suspension (the air has to many problems) it generally has less problems the the fancier air suspension cars and the v6 is kinda sad in the toureg (fun in the R32 though).

the TPMS was probably the biggest annoyance every devised. the new system (based on audi's system) is much simpler. just set the tire pressure to specs. the older system allowed you to run custom tire pressures and the system had to have to be set for temperature so they require a test drive to actually learn the tire pressure very cool but to damn complicated. they were also too sensitive, if you parked next to another toureg it would pick up their tire pressures. Try setting pressure in a shop with two or three touregs. 

From what I've seen the newer ones are much improved.

[NAKID]

I thought the Tiguan used the same DSG transmission used in the Jetta and Passat 2.0T?

[ute]

thats a stretch my boy has a cayenne turbo and its nothing like the toreg

exactly the same vehicle built on the same factory same assembly  line ..just a re badge  (level of trim etc )     just like a Grand Marquis is the same as a Crown Victoria ....nakid doesn't have the turbo ..but it is the same vehicle


also gotta add i had a 87 Jetta  diesel ( last of the German made )  had 589,00 kms on it before wife had an accident in it ...1200kms on a tank ..would cruise all day at 150kmh

the car was trouble free except for 4 sets of glow plugs 4 timing belts  1 starter 1 alternator typical oil/air/fuel filters  / brakes /tires

[sbrguy]

driving down a dirt fire road does not count as "off road".. when you put up picutres of the thing covered in mud and with tree branch scrathes on the doors that is when we know you have been off roading.

nobody uses 4x4s for off roading, cept for maybe a few jeep wranger people and some contractors maybe with f150 and such. otherwise its like most people buying liter bikes, how many of those people really ride them on the track?  not many.

[NAKID]

How's that?

Also of note, while in those positions, the doors will all open and close just like normal. Now THAT'S a strong frame!

[sno_duc]

driving down a dirt fire road does not count as "off road".. when you put up picutres of the thing covered in mud and with tree branch scrathes on the doors that is when we know you have been off roading.Or a picture of you kicking your rig off a HiLift jack

nobody uses 4x4s for off roading, cept for maybe a few jeep wranger people and some contractors maybe with f150 and such. otherwise its like most people buying liter bikes, how many of those people really ride them on the track?  not many.

+ 1

Most people who buy 4X4's would be better off and money ahead to buy a car / stationwagon and a second set of wheels with killer snowtires mounted.
( if I buy a grand piano that doesn't make me a concert pianist )

[NAKID]

thats a stretch my boy has a cayenne turbo and its nothing like the toreg

Oh, don't forget the Touareg has an optional Twin Turbo Diesel V10....

[Le Pirate]

+ 1

Most people who buy 4X4's would be better off and money ahead to buy a car / stationwagon and a second set of wheels with killer snowtires mounted.
( if I buy a grand piano that doesn't make me a concert pianist )

after the 3rd oil pan got ripped out from under my mitsubishi mirage, I decided the off-roading was best left to the 4x4's. While I'll agree that most people never take their SUVs down anything more than a gravel road...I assure you that off-road ability will be greatly factored into my purchase 

[acalles]

I thought the Tiguan used the same DSG transmission used in the Jetta and Passat 2.0T?

nope, Jatco tranny..

they actually drive pretty nice when new, but by 70k miles they have one problem or another.

granted I don't know if theres any improvement, and I seriously dobut there's any tiguans with that much milage, but the 09a used in the last few years of the MK4 with tiptronic were terrible, they either slipped while in 3/4th gears, the TC locked up and was actually scary (this happened to me on once, and I almost wrecked into my tool box) or the TCM crapped out. As far as I can tell, other then the ECU's crapping out at random the solenoids cause all the problems.

[the_Journeyman]

Your dealer is on drugs.  The V6 is a tad over 5,000 pounds and the V8 is a tad over 5,300 pounds.  Maybe that explains why he couldn't fix it either.

Wow...  My V8 truck is just under 4,000.  My dad's '87 Suburban weighs in right a 6,000.  That's crazy heavy with all the modern materials available ~

JM

[NAKID]

Wow...  My V8 truck is just under 4,000.  My dad's '87 Suburban weighs in right a 6,000.  That's crazy heavy with all the modern materials available ~

JM

It's built very stout. Reinforced everything...

[ute]

I own a 97 TJ  2" Big Dick ,Big Dick rock locker ,32" BFG's,Disco's,Trussed Danas

gotta say the Cayenne / Toerag will go wherever i go ..the only draw back is the tires  if he had the MT's wow it would be insane 


it is a true off roader it is skid plated and  center diff locked ..lockers front and rear ....The Rubi is yours to conquer

[B.Rock]

Also of note, while in those positions, the doors will all open and close just like normal. Now THAT'S a strong frame!

Stong unibody, right? Which is why it's such a pig [weight] and part of the high cost reason.

[Popeye the Sailor]

Stong unibody, right? Which is why it's such a pig [weight] and part of the high cost reason.

Unibody is typically lighter.....

[cyrus buelton]

Oh, don't forget the Touareg has an optional Twin Turbo Diesel V10....

The Cayenne Turbo has over 500HP and torque.......