The Official "Say Anything" Thread

[ducpainter]

I hope it's not Franks turn with the feeling...


I'm not a fan of the PVC...

Why not?

[The Architect]

You have a can of HTFU? 

I do.  It's actual a 55 gallon drum left over from when they built my house.  They accidentally left it in the basement.  It does have a warning label on it: may cause contractor to frame a deck with finish nails and use 20d nails to secure deck boards.  May also cause contractor to secure deck framing to concrete foundation with only 3 nails.  Etc.....


Are you sure you want it?

[ducpainter]

I do.  It's actual a 55 gallon drum left over from when they built my house.  They accidentally left it in the basement.  It does have a warning label on it: may cause contractor to frame a deck with finish nails and use 20d nails to secure deck boards.  May also cause contractor to secure deck framing to concrete foundation with only 3 nails.  Etc.....


Are you sure you want it?

You should see how we attached the deck to the foundation through the foam...

Pretty resourceful if I must say.

I don't need 55 gal.

Can you pour me off a qt?

[Ddan]

Why not?

Mostly the cost, I just don't see how it's worth it.

[lethe]

morning

[ducpainter]

Mostly the cost, I just don't see how it's worth it.

You have to look past the initial cost and to the cost of maintaining/replacing wood.

I'll never touch this stuff again once it's up and finished.

morning

uh huh...

[lethe]

there is wood that lasts practically forever too, little pricey though

[The Architect]

I hope it's not Franks turn with the feeling...

They took it away from me last week.  They said I over used it.  I only had it for two weeks.  Unfortunately a lot can bappen in two weeks.  I tried to explain that it wasn't my fault, outside force.  They didn't care.

[ducpainter]

there is wood that lasts practically forever too, little pricey though

...and requires maintenance...

[lethe]

...and requires maintenance...

no, supposedly you can just set and forget ipe.
It does gray but that's it.

[ducpainter]

no, supposedly you can just set and forget ipe.
It does gray but that's it.

What kind of wood?

Cedar?

[The Architect]

no, supposedly you can just set and forget ipe.
It does gray but that's it.

 He's right.  And it's beautiful stuff.  But if you think pvc is expensive and difficult to work with, ipe or otherwise know as ironwood is not for you.


IMAG0146 by anzalone22, on Flickr

It was supposed to be a simple fix, $4k later and endless hours of frame repair and I'll have a deck again. 

[Ddan]

You have to look past the initial cost and to the cost of maintaining/replacing wood.

I'll never touch this stuff again once it's up and finished.
uh huh...

Properly installed pine will last a long time with fairly minimal maintenance.  It wouldn't need any more care than your siding.

[lethe]

He's right.  And it's beautiful stuff.  But if you think pvc is expensive and difficult to work with, ipe or otherwise know as ironwood is not for you.


IMAG0146 by anzalone22, on Flickr

It was supposed to be a simple fix, $4k later and endless hours of frame repair and I'll have a deck again.  

but it supposedly has the same fire rating as concrete

wonder how much it would cost to build a whole house of it  

[ducpainter]

Properly installed pine will last a long time with fairly minimal maintenance.  It wouldn't need any more care than your siding.

Finding pine that's high enough quality to look good isn't easy anymore. If you do find it it isn't cheap by any stretch of the imagination, and still requires more maintenance than pvc or composite siding.

...and besides...it's already painted. 

He's right.  And it's beautiful stuff.  But if you think pvc is expensive and difficult to work with, ipe or otherwise know as ironwood is not for you.


IMAG0146 by anzalone22, on Flickr

It was supposed to be a simple fix, $4k later and endless hours of frame repair and I'll have a deck again.  

ironwood isn't in the budget...