Ducati Vyper - Ducati is considering a new 1400cc power cruiser

Started by bluemoco, March 24, 2009, 07:56:34 AM

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Monstermash

Quote from: Duck-Stew on March 24, 2009, 03:31:27 PM
GET REAL!  The stroke on the DS1000 is the maximum that the current 2V engine can handle @ 71.5mm.  There's NO way to get a 1400cc Duc 2V engine with the current cases.  Period.

It would require a completely scratch built engine and I just don't see them doing anything that large of scale just to build a cruiser.  [roll]


(besides, there's still living down the first Indiana debacle!)  [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]

Wow, I didn't realize that the Testastretta was a 2V.
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Quote from: Spidey on March 24, 2009, 03:43:47 PM
Japanese don't make original designs


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"Ducati Vyper to Rival VMax and V-Rod"

They don't need 1400cc to do that, I guess if Ducati wanted to rival the VMax and V-Rod they could stuff some lead weights under the seat of the Street Fighter

herm

Quote from: Spidey on March 24, 2009, 03:43:47 PM
Italians don't make cruisers.

Americans don't make sportbikes.

Brits don't make dirtbikes. 

Germans don't make bikes without heated grips

Japanese don't make . . . uh . . . er . . . uh . . . mmm  . . . uh . . . make the beast with two backs, ran out of wit. 



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Quote from: Monstermash on March 24, 2009, 02:57:41 PM
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Quote from: Duck-Stew on March 24, 2009, 03:31:27 PM
GET REAL!  The stroke on the DS1000 is the maximum that the current 2V engine can handle @ 71.5mm.  There's NO way to get a 1400cc Duc 2V engine with the current cases.  Period.

It would require a completely scratch built engine and I just don't see them doing anything that large of scale just to build a cruiser.  [roll]


(besides, there's still living down the first Indiana debacle!)  [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]

Psst, Stew, it's a Testa engine...
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Duck-Stew

pssssst  EVERYONE......

A DS1000 and the Testa cases are nearly the same damn cases (minus a few small changes which have nothing to do with the crankshaft). 

The crankshaft to timing lay-shaft dimension defines maximum crankshaft stroke on a Ducati V-twin. 

And it's frakkin' completely maxxed out with the 71.5mm crankshaft which resides in the DS1000 and DS1100 engines.

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Quote from: causeofkaos on March 24, 2009, 02:10:37 PM
coming off a big bruiser motorcycle ( suzuki blvd M109r 1800 ) i really like it i would hit that in a heart beat.
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That pic looks like a vmax screwed a streetfighter.  (or vise versa take your pic)
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NAKID

Quote from: Duck-Stew on March 24, 2009, 05:37:53 PM
pssssst  EVERYONE......

A DS1000 and the Testa cases are nearly the same damn cases (minus a few small changes which have nothing to do with the crankshaft). 

The crankshaft to timing lay-shaft dimension defines maximum crankshaft stroke on a Ducati V-twin. 

And it's frakkin' completely maxxed out with the 71.5mm crankshaft which resides in the DS1000 and DS1100 engines.



;D

So what about the 1198?
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Duck-Stew

Quote from: NAKID on March 24, 2009, 05:47:41 PM
;D

So what about the 1198?

106mm bore x 67.9 stroke.

If you were to put a DS1000 crank into it, the 1198 would yield a 1262cc engine.  A touch shy of 1400cc's.  They would need to put 112mm cylinders on it & a DS1000 crank in it to net a 1408cc twin.   [roll]

This entire thread is just another wild photo-chop by some motorcycle magazine looking for the next 'WOW!' bike from Ducati is all.  Look at that 'New SuperSport' that was supposedly coming out a couple months ago?!?  How about that 'New Pantah' bull-shit in another current thread...


[roll]

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I thaught that the max capacity per cylinder is 600cc .. [coffee].. the max for a twin is 1200cc .....  [bang] ....

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Howie

I wouldn't be surprised if Ducati makes a cruiser again.  I would be surprised if it is a 4 valve and looks sorta like a raked out Streetfighter.  They should probably sub contract the design to  Duck-Stew and Motocreations. 

Duck-Stew

Quote from: howie on March 24, 2009, 09:53:41 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Ducati makes a cruiser again.  I would be surprised if it is a 4 valve and looks sorta like a raked out Streetfighter.  They should probably sub contract the design to  Duck-Stew and Motocreations. 

Funny you should mention that howie...  There *is* a new chopper/cruiser in the works!*



















*:  Works translates to:it's built already in my head....now I'm trying to finance it's real construction!  [laugh]
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