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What bike would you like to see Ducati make, in 50 words or fewer?

Started by ducatiz, March 25, 2009, 06:36:28 AM

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#30
March 25, 2009, 04:18:14 PM
Quote from: EvilSteve on March 25, 2009, 02:13:44 PM
2010 Ducati Supermono 599



supermono = frankenstein POS..  not that i would kick it out of bed.

i'd like to see something completely NEW in a single.. smaller case, lighter, go down the list.

supermono was a divinely inspired kludge, but a kludge nevertheless
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Duck-Stew

#31
March 25, 2009, 05:01:59 PM
539cc single (1/2 the DS1100 (1078cc actually)) on the horizontal cylinder (Aermacchi style) in a traditional CR styled bike with a weight of like 300 dry.  Retro styled, single gauge, single seat, NO immobilizer BULL-JHIT, efi, thinly-spoked gold colored wheels inspired by the early 80's Pantah's, center stand only.

Oh, and put all the wiring under the tank and in the seat cowl PLEEEEZE!   (saves me from doin' it!)
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ducatiz

#32
March 25, 2009, 05:57:07 PM
Quote from: Duck-Stew on March 25, 2009, 05:01:59 PM
539cc single (1/2 the DS1100 (1078cc actually)) on the horizontal cylinder (Aermacchi style) in a traditional CR styled bike with a weight of like 300 dry.  Retro styled, single gauge, single seat, NO immobilizer BULL-JHIT, efi, thinly-spoked gold colored wheels inspired by the early 80's Pantah's, center stand only.

Oh, and put all the wiring under the tank and in the seat cowl PLEEEEZE!   (saves me from doin' it!)

are you describing the supermono layout or a new engine with the horizontal layout? 

and if they hide all the wiring, then you lose business,no??

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"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

Duck-Stew

#33
March 25, 2009, 06:53:27 PM
Quote from: ducatizzzz on March 25, 2009, 05:57:07 PM
are you describing the supermono layout or a new engine with the horizontal layout? 

and if they hide all the wiring, then you lose business,no??



It's true the supermono used the horizontal cylinder, and a 'dummy rod' on the vertical to keep perfect primary balance.  I don't know if Ducati will ever re-use the dummy-rod technology, but it would a great usage on this bike IMO.

If they hide all the wiring...yes, I'd lose some biz.  But, honestly...I'm not doing much wire hiding these days.  Ducati took from my Cafe-Racer the 'clean' ideal and have integrated it into the Monster line-up up to the 2008 m.y.  So, business is slightly down with wire-hides...  I'm not worried.  They keep producing bikes that are 80% finished so I'll always have work!  [laugh]
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ducatiz

#34
March 25, 2009, 07:13:39 PM
Quote from: Duck-Stew on March 25, 2009, 06:53:27 PM
It's true the supermono used the horizontal cylinder, and a 'dummy rod' on the vertical to keep perfect primary balance.  I don't know if Ducati will ever re-use the dummy-rod technology, but it would a great usage on this bike IMO.

i consider the supermono inspired but flawed.  the case is the same as the rest of the desmoquattros, i.e. very heavy compared to other singles. e.g. how much does it weigh compared to a rotax single?

make a new engine.  design it around the concept and make it small and light.  i imagine it could be 20% narrower and 20-30% lighter than the supermono, which means a lot for a single.

if you build it, they will cum.
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DesmoDiva

#35
March 25, 2009, 07:16:44 PM
Quote from: Travman on March 25, 2009, 11:40:32 AM
I would like to see an updated Sport Tourer.  The ST3 is a great bike.  It is the lightest and best handling of all the bikes marketed as sports tourers.  Now imagine the ST3 with a 1098 engine and it would be perfect.  It could be named the ST1098.

Amen brother!!!   [thumbsup]

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Duck-Stew

#36
March 25, 2009, 07:17:11 PM
Quote from: ducatizzzz on March 25, 2009, 07:13:39 PM
i consider the supermono inspired but flawed.  the case is the same as the rest of the desmoquattros, i.e. very heavy compared to other singles. e.g. how much does it weigh compared to a rotax single?

make a new engine.  design it around the concept and make it small and light.  i imagine it could be 20% narrower and 20-30% lighter than the supermono, which means a lot for a single.

if you build it, they will cum.

Ducati just got done scratch building the Desmocidici RR...  I'm betting we'll see no totally new engines for quite some time out of them...



Oh, and I totally agree w/you on the small and light concept!  [thumbsup]
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motolocopat

#37
March 25, 2009, 09:10:27 PM
Air Cooled 2V motor producing 100HP/100ft lbs torque, around 1200/1250cc
Packaged in the appropriate trellised frames with no cast crap
Programmable DP ECU for race only sold at realistic prices of $250
S option on all bikes.
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Carstarphen

#38
March 25, 2009, 09:20:59 PM
Quote from: sally101 on March 25, 2009, 07:27:58 AM
A real Sport Tourer.

Absolutely! And strong enough, reliable enough, and comfortable enough to win the Iron Butt.
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DoubleEagle

#39
March 25, 2009, 09:35:36 PM
I'd like to see a bike that has the performance and handling of the 1098R but the comfort of a Honda Goldwing.      Dolph     :)
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#40
March 25, 2009, 09:39:24 PM
Quote from: DoubleEagle on March 25, 2009, 09:35:36 PM
I'd like to see a bike that has the performance and handling of the 1098R but the comfort of a Honda Goldwing.      Dolph     :)

Talk to BMW.
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#41
March 25, 2009, 11:14:01 PM
hmmm maybe this thread should be distilled down to a few options then turned into a poll. then we picked the winner. we spec it, design it, then stew or motoc makes a mockup, i ride it to the factory (i'm in europe already so i get this job) and we collectively sign an agreement for a 10% profit share.

redxblack

#42
March 25, 2009, 11:16:37 PM
I love the GT-1000, but would prefer something a little smaller. A GT-750 would be just about perfect.

fasterblkduc

#43
March 26, 2009, 03:26:37 AM
new Supermono or new 2-valve SS...I would race either one.
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#44
March 26, 2009, 06:46:29 AM Last Edit: March 26, 2009, 06:50:35 AM by mitt
Quote from: Carstarphen on March 25, 2009, 09:20:59 PM
Absolutely! And strong enough, reliable enough, and comfortable enough to win the Iron Butt.

It has been done by Gary E.



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