Compressors recommendations

Started by He Man, April 18, 2009, 10:03:35 AM

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ducpainter

He Man....

If you are going to be sandblasting you really need a 2 stage pump.

Really.
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He Man

Is there anyway to find a ~8CFM two stage for around $300-400. Everywhere i look, the two stages are basically twice as expensive as the regular singles.

ducpainter

Quote from: He Man on April 19, 2009, 09:33:03 AM
Is there anyway to find a ~8CFM two stage for around $300-400. Everywhere i look, the two stages are basically twice as expensive as the regular singles.
...and for good reason...

you get twice as much air...basically.

You won't find a new one in that price range.

I paid $400 for the single stage Sanborn I have and that was >15 years ago.

Cheapest I've seen is at Lowes or Home Cheapo for $800-1K. Those are Campbell Hausfield. Northern has an Ingersoll for about the same price.
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Langanobob

People sometimes sell good compressors for cheap that just have some very minor problems.  I got a two-stage I-R model 30T for $25 and all that was wrong with it was a screw came loose and one of the flapper valves wasn't seating.

The secret to getting good deals is being patient and not being in a hurry.  If you  want your compressor right now then you have to pay the price.  But if you're not in a real rush and keep looking around I think you will eventually find what you want at your price.  The listings on Craigslist change all the time and just because what you want isn't there today doesn't mean it won't be tomorrow.  I've had very good luck with Craigslist myself and I live in a much smaller area with a lot fewer listings.
 

He Man

im not in a rush, i still have to finish this semester so im looking to buy one within 1.5 months time frame. Guess ill keep my eyes peeled for a single stage. the 2stages are just way to costly right now.

Langanobob

QuoteI paid $400 for the single stage Sanborn I have and that was >15 years ago.

I have one very similar that I got about 15 years ago, I looked at Sanborn and ended up wtih a $400 DeVilbiss (sp?) from Costco.  I think the CFM rating is about the same.  The DeVilbiss has been absolutely bulletproof and I can't guess how many hours on it.  Soon as it seemed like it was broken in I changed the oil to Amsoil (sorry for the Amsoil plug, I don't particularly like the company but credit where credit is due) and I've never bothered to change it in 15 years.

For an  orbital sander and painting mine works just fine, although being a hacker painter I probably paint slow.  It works OK for sandblasting but most of my sandblasting is on small stuff and  I turn it down so that I don't get carried away and damage something.  I also got one of the small pressure pot sandblasters and it works a lot better than the suction type that I used to use.

ducpainter

Quote from: Langanobob on April 19, 2009, 09:59:19 AM
I have one very similar that I got about 15 years ago, I looked at Sanborn and ended up wtih a $400 DeVilbiss (sp?) from Costco.  I think the CFM rating is about the same.  The DeVilbiss has been absolutely bulletproof and I can't guess how many hours on it.  Soon as it seemed like it was broken in I changed the oil to Amsoil (sorry for the Amsoil plug, I don't particularly like the company but credit where credit is due) and I've never bothered to change it in 15 years.

For an  orbital sander and painting mine works just fine, although being a hacker painter I probably paint slow.  It works OK for sandblasting but most of my sandblasting is on small stuff and  I turn it down so that I don't get carried away and damage something.  I also got one of the small pressure pot sandblasters and it works a lot better than the suction type that I used to use.
I bought mine for general farm shop use.

It will run a sander, impact etc...

I even used it for my paint shop. I use an HVLP gun with low cfm requirements...or I used to. I bought the gun to match the output of the compressor.

The pump and motor are fine, but the tank rotted out.

With my new used compressor I can use any gun made, and have added a couple of SATAs which have very high consumption.
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Popeye the Sailor

The saying "I'm too poor to buy cheap" should really apply here. You already have a shitty compressor (assuming you bought it), it was probably a budget issue. And now, you're trying to do something similar.

If you save up and scrimp and sell some shit you don't need (including the old compressor) you can end up with a proper two stage large pump that will happily run anything you want for the next twenty years. If you don't want to be looking for a bigger compressor in two years, just save up and take the hit now.
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Langanobob

Quote from: littlewiseass on April 19, 2009, 07:51:32 PM
The saying "I'm too poor to buy cheap" should really apply here. You already have a shitty compressor (assuming you bought it), it was probably a budget issue. And now, you're trying to do something similar.

If you save up and scrimp and sell some shit you don't need (including the old compressor) you can end up with a proper two stage large pump that will happily run anything you want for the next twenty years. If you don't want to be looking for a bigger compressor in two years, just save up and take the hit now.

We have to remember that he's a student  :)  As I recall, my student tool buying binges were probably more of a release from exam pressure and the usual student BS with very little logic involved. 

He Man, what really helped me during my student years was getting a part time job on a ranch where I had full access to their shop for my own projects.  Somehow I don't think there are many job openings for ranch hands in NYC, but any place with a workshop is good.

Also, change your major from civil engineering, I don't think it's a good fit for you  ;D

littlewiseass, what's up with your dramatic name change?  At first I thought it was one of the moderators messing with you, but since you've kept it I guess it was self-induced.  You lost a bet?






ducpainter

Quote from: Langanobob on April 20, 2009, 05:57:37 AM

littlewiseass, what's up with your dramatic name change?  At first I thought it was one of the moderators messing with you, but since you've kept it I guess it was self-induced.  You lost a bet?






He's been a little wiseass forever.

It's not dramatic in the slightest. ;)
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corey

what are you going to school for?
is there any way you can write it off as educational expense and pay for it with some of your student loan money? or write it off on taxes?
does your school have any similar equipment around that you could "use"?

just some thoughts :)
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64duc

Quote from: He Man on April 19, 2009, 09:33:03 AM
Is there anyway to find a ~8CFM two stage for around $300-400. Everywhere i look, the two stages are basically twice as expensive as the regular singles.

The smallest two stage made is a 5 hp.  What we've been talking about so far are piston type pumps. Even better for sandblasting is a single stage screw type compressor. Unfortunately they are even more costly.
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ducpainter

Quote from: 64duc on April 22, 2009, 02:08:02 PM
The smallest two stage made is a 5 hp.  What we've been talking about so far are piston type pumps. Even better for sandblasting is a single stage screw type compressor. Unfortunately they are even more costly.
Sure...

go ahead...

throw a wrench in the works.... [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
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red baron

I use a screw comp at work nearly daily. [thumbsup]


But it's the size of a passat (50hp) [thumbsup]


Check AMerican IMC or now the go by Bel Aire. The make a really good two stage 5hp.
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He Man

Screw type.... that sounds pretty mean. like a screw driven super charger! how many CFMs would that be? ;D

Im a Civil Engineering Major, and i pay out of my own pocket for tution (dirty cheap $4000 a year).

I've been looking to get a compressor for the longest time, my shitty 2.6cfm doughnut shape one is WEAKSAUCE! i just dont want to drop $$$ on the biggest baddest compressor since honestly, it would get used heavily for a few days out of a the month, and other wise sit dormant. that refurbed one is looking reallllyy good, but im afraid of it breaking down since its a refurb, and im not sure if its show room refurb, droped of a truck refurb, or custoemr return refurb...