Changing Oil Brand !!

Started by dragonworld., June 02, 2009, 09:44:11 PM

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monstermick58

Quote from: bazz20 on June 07, 2009, 11:16:47 PM
whats the numbers please mick k&n-----! cheers bazz


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loony888

Quote from: bazz20 on June 06, 2009, 02:50:52 AM

and if people are worried about high detergent oils ducati says in there work shop manuals to use a high detergent oil , you will notice in the above oil api ratings that as modern oils are being made there sulfur levels have droped and detergent levels have increased to the point now that there is very little difference between diesel and petrol oil   , cheers bazz


that's true, but remember they're assuming you're using a motorcycle oil, or at the very least a petrol engine oil. what is a high detergent oil for a petrol engine is way different to what is standard for a diesel engine. sorry baz, but comparing oil developed for a petrol engine against a diesel engine is apples and oranges. I agree that you can use delo in your bike, diesel oils are usually a higher quality oil than a petrol oil due to the higher demands of a diesel, but their detergent levels are waaaay higher than what is used in a typical petrol engine oil, and that's the only reason i wouldn't use it in a high mileage engine, it would clean out all the carbon and deposits that have built up behind the rings etc causing a large jump in consumption. (typically, not always.)


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bazz20

Quote from: loony888 on June 08, 2009, 12:53:21 AM

that's true, but remember they're assuming you're using a motorcycle oil, or at the very least a petrol engine oil. what is a high detergent oil for a petrol engine is way different to what is standard for a diesel engine. sorry baz, but comparing oil developed for a petrol engine against a diesel engine is apples and oranges. I agree that you can use delo in your bike, diesel oils are usually a higher quality oil than a petrol oil due to the higher demands of a diesel, but their detergent levels are waaaay higher than what is used in a typical petrol engine oil, and that's the only reason i wouldn't use it in a high mileage engine, it would clean out all the carbon and deposits that have built up behind the rings etc causing a large jump in consumption. (typically, not always.)                                                                                                                         


                                                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                                                       











paul.

[/quote                                                                                                                                                                             fair comment but what are you calling high mileage, delo is also one of the low detergent diesel oils , keep talking please paul because all the info i can get on the cons and pros is all good for me because i dont believe in what one person says and im no oil tec so the more info i can get the better cheers bazz



CairnsDuc

+1 on what Bazz has said, I used to use the Shell, but now there is no Ducati dealer locally, so no more Ultra 4 for me when my small stash of 8 liter's dries up. No other dealer up here carry's it, what about other brands like Silkolene or Motul? still to expensive?

MonsterDorf

OK, I change my oil and filter every 5000Km and my bike has just done 22K (not high milage).

I just bought 20L of Caltex SLX Professional OE a full synthetic high detergent oil that I need for my turbo Diesel Mondeo which is very very very picky WRT oil (15K service interval).

So any reason I can't use it in my S2R?

Oh by the way I picked up the 20L for $219 at the Toowoomba distributor vs paying $100 for 4L from the Ford dealer.

MonsterDorf

OK, just to provide and update.

Still using the Caltex SLX Professorial OE with no issues. Also now using it in my BMW R100R that has 100 000Km on it with no problems. Oil consumption is zero, no smoke no rattles, sweet as.

monstermick58

Quote from: bazz20 on June 07, 2009, 11:16:47 PM
whats the numbers please mick k&n-----! cheers bazz


Sorry for the delay

K&N-153




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Bazz21

Quote from: monstermick58 on October 25, 2011, 02:57:59 AM

Sorry for the delay

K&N-153




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yer thats little delay  [laugh]  [cheeky] onya mick cheers bazz
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Quote from: bazz20 on June 03, 2009, 04:07:40 AM
   dello 400 15 w 40 is it is also designed as a stand alone gear box oil for trucks with internal hydrolick pumps so the must be fairly good too stand that treatment , any way hopes this helps some people and 5 litres cost 38 bucks just need too find a cheaper oil filter now cheers bazz

find a station that stocks 20L and its about $90 , caltex on mulgoa road penrith has 20 litre drums
there was a place at wetherill park but they closed up , supposed to be someone else local there that was taking over
but not sure as this was about 2 years ago

my car mechanic was using delo400 and i used to pay $4 a litre whatever qty i wanted

they have now changed to valvoline you know what i mean and i still get the same from them for doing my car services

cheaper filters can be found out of the USA

i dont care if you have been a mechanic for 10 years doing something for a long time does not make you good at it, take my gf for an example shes been walking for 28 years and still manages to fall over all the time.

GK

I checked out Caltex's site just now after the interesting read on Delo 400 and found this comment after the specifications information.

"This product is not recommended for motorcycle engines."

It may simply be Caltex protecting their more expensive product or it may be true. It may also be because the higher levels of sulphur aren't good for modern bikes with cats.

Food for thought nonetheless.

GK
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Quote from: monstermick58 on October 25, 2011, 02:57:59 AM

Sorry for the delay

K&N-153




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check the link below in my sig.  the KN153 is a repackaged HiFlo
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Quote from: GK on November 28, 2011, 02:43:01 PM
I checked out Caltex's site just now after the interesting read on Delo 400 and found this comment after the specifications information.

"This product is not recommended for motorcycle engines."

It may simply be Caltex protecting their more expensive product or it may be true. It may also be because the higher levels of sulphur aren't good for modern bikes with cats.

Food for thought nonetheless.

GK





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monstermick58

Quote from: ducatiz on November 28, 2011, 03:20:13 PM
check the link below in my sig.  the KN153 is a repackaged HiFlo


Thanks for that info ducatz, I have'nt seen HiFlo filters sold here in Australia (somebody correct me if I'm wrong) the thing I like about the K&N range is the little nut on the end of the can, so much easier to get the darn thing off.






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Quote from: monstermick58 on November 28, 2011, 09:26:05 PM

Thanks for that info ducatz, I have'nt seen HiFlo filters sold here in Australia (somebody correct me if I'm wrong) the thing I like about the K&N range is the little nut on the end of the can, so much easier to get the darn thing off.






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I have been doing oil changes every 3000k's on my Monster. So the last time I went in to get some Sikolene Comp 4 which usually around $60 I saw some Shell HX7 on special for $32. It was 10/40w so I figured I would give it a try as it is a semi synthetic like the Comp 4 anyways. I can not pick the difference to be honest.