with apologies to any philly fans...

[Triple J]

What Cotton said.  And, your point is well taken.  The difference seems to be that if you or I had a specific skill, talent or ability that was scarce and  in huge demand like Vick has, then we too would be likely be able to resume our careers.

Exactly...it all depends upon the job you're trying to return to.

(to be clear, I think Vick is giant asswipe)

[hihhs]

What Cotton said.  And, your point is well taken.  The difference seems to be that if you or I had a specific skill, talent or ability that was scarce and  in huge demand like Vick has, then we too would be likely be able to resume our careers.

Langanobob, I think you and Cotton are both correct.
But, I think that is only true in the area of professional sports football.
Full disclosure here...I only watch college football
I guess the bottom line here is that what he did repulses me and to see him return to his career makes me even sicker.
There are some acts that are simply irredeemable to me and his was one of them. Eighteen months as "celebrity" inmate doesn't seem enough.
Ah well, I doubt he'll be a Nike spokesperson anytime soon.

[KnightofNi]

Of course he could have. The point is that what he did was not intentional, as it was with Vick. Horrible choice, and tragic yes...but not intentional.

no, he intentionally drove drunk. one of the consequences of that was he hit and killed someone. a direct result of his decision to drive while intoxicated.

had he taken a cab, this wouldn't be brought up.

[DCXCV]

You must hate Ray Lewis

Lewis was charged with murder and aggravated assault in a double-murder. In exchange for testifying against his friends, he received probation for a misdemeanor. Commissioner Paul Tagliabue fined him $250,000, but did not cause him to miss a single game.

Driving drunk is okay cause everybody's doing it!!! 



It's a popular NFL past time http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/nfl/arrests.html


quote and webpage both came from http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9935324/Vick-serves-as-a-model-for-embattled-NFL-players

[hihhs]

You must hate Ray Lewis

Driving drunk is okay cause everybody's doing it!!! 



It's a popular NFL past time http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/nfl/arrests.html


quote and webpage both came from http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9935324/Vick-serves-as-a-model-for-embattled-NFL-players

Again, I don't see why these guys don't get drivers. We went to a wedding in CA last year. My SO was in the wedding. There were four nights of events with lot's of alcohol. The hotel hooked me up with a car/driver for all four nights for $400. That is CHEAP compared to DUI.
And let's face it, these guys have PILES of money. I just don't get it.

[vwboomer]

If only people could get so worked up about  human abuse and rail about the injustices of people serving little time for physically abusing kids or adults.
While I don't care for dog fighting, they're dogs.
I'd much rather see someone spend a significant amount of time in prison for abusing kids than killing a make the beast with two backsing dog.


Bottom line - he did the time that was deemed appropriate. And he, much like anyone else out of the klink, needs to get on with his life. Perhaps you'd rather see him not get a job and get welfare?

[DCXCV]

Again, I don't see why these guys don't get drivers. We went to a wedding in CA last year. My SO was in the wedding. There were four nights of events with lot's of alcohol. The hotel hooked me up with a car/driver for all four nights for $400. That is CHEAP compared to DUI.
And let's face it, these guys have PILES of money. I just don't get it.

Actually, most NFL teams provide a car service for free.  They come and drive you and your Bently/Hummer/whatever home.  It's about responsibility, not money.

[Triple J]

no, he intentionally drove drunk. one of the consequences of that was he hit and killed someone. a direct result of his decision to drive while intoxicated.

had he taken a cab, this wouldn't be brought up.

Agreed he should have taken a cab.

The point is he intentionally drove drunk...he didn't intentionally kill someone. That was a horrible accident. Compared to Vick, who intentionally tortured and killed dogs.

I'm am surely not saying driving drunk is OK, or acceptable...it isn't. This is just a comment on the difference between what they did. One was an accident caused by an exceedingly poor choice...the other was an intentional act.

[KnightofNi]

You must hate Ray Lewis

that's the other one i was trying to think of!

If only people could get so worked up about  human abuse and rail about the injustices of people serving little time for physically abusing kids or adults.
While I don't care for dog fighting, they're dogs.
I'd much rather see someone spend a significant amount of time in prison for abusing kids than killing a make the beast with two backsing dog.


Bottom line - he did the time that was deemed appropriate. And he, much like anyone else out of the klink, needs to get on with his life. Perhaps you'd rather see him not get a job and get welfare?

i keep saying the same thing, but nobody seems to see my point, or care to see my point.

[Triple J]

If only people could get so worked up about  human abuse and rail about the injustices of people serving little time for physically abusing kids or adults.
While I don't care for dog fighting, they're dogs.
I'd much rather see someone spend a significant amount of time in prison for abusing kids than killing a make the beast with two backsing dog.


Bottom line - he did the time that was deemed appropriate. And he, much like anyone else out of the klink, needs to get on with his life. Perhaps you'd rather see him not get a job and get welfare?

People do get worked up about people abusing children or adults. The difference here is that Vick is a sports star, so this case got a lot of attention.

I also agree people should spend time in prison for abusing children. That or just shot...

They should also spend time in prison for abusing animals...not just dogs.

I also agree he should get a second chance. I still think he's an asshole though.

[Kopfjäger]

I bet he takes McNabb's Job.


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/08/13/source-donovan-mcnabb-isnt-happy-with-vick-acquisition/

[Pakhan]

i keep saying the same thing, but nobody seems to see my point, or care to see my point.

You have a point?   

[csp808]

To hell with him he has talent but the only talent worth paying for is the talent that gets results. Two years after that douchebag left here we drafted a rookie quarter back who could do what he never did ... WIN

[cyrus buelton]

People do get worked up about people abusing children or adults. The difference here is that Vick is a sports star, so this case got a lot of attention.

I also agree people should spend time in prison for abusing children. That or just shot...

They should also spend time in prison for abusing animals...not just dogs.

I also agree he should get a second chance. I still think he's an asshole though.

Well said JJ.

[Kopfjäger]

To hell with him he has talent but the only talent worth paying for is the talent that gets results. Two years after that douchebag left here we drafted a rookie quarter back who could do what he never did ... WIN

Yeah, They were a storied franchise, "before" Vick.