Oil Cooler (a different approach)

Started by pennyrobber, August 19, 2009, 11:15:20 AM

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ducatiz

Quote from: ProTeal55 on October 20, 2009, 06:19:16 PM
Now you need to get a longer line so it doesnt go in-front of the belt (rather behind)..
I think I read somewhere that a stock oil line offa Hypermotard will do the trick...

or just have one made.. I believe they are AN6 hoses.  you could route it any way you like, no need to stick with what came from the factory on another bike..
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DucHead

Quote from: ducatiz on October 21, 2009, 05:32:24 AM
or just have one made.. I believe they are AN6 hoses.  you could route it any way you like, no need to stick with what came from the factory on another bike..

+1 assembling oil SS oil lines and fittings is pretty easy -- just remember to measure at least twice before cutting the lines. 

I got everything for custom lines on both my bikes from Summitracing.com

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junior varsity

What's the fitting used on the engine case? (and presumably on the oil cooler itself) I'm going to (finally) do this in the winter

DucHead

#78
Quote from: ato memphis on October 21, 2009, 09:45:58 AM
What's the fitting used on the engine case? (and presumably on the oil cooler itself) I'm going to (finally) do this in the winter

I think I posted the parts list here somewhere, but it might have been TOB.

Anyhow, here's what I got from Summit Racing:

Part #             Item                                Price          Qty    Line Total
AER-FCA0603    -6 AN HOSE 3 FT LENGTH                $16.95    1    $16.95
RUS-610023    -6AN BLACK STRAIGHT SWIVEL         $9.95            1      $9.95
RUS-613093    -6AN BLACK 45 DEG SWIVEL         $21.95    3    $65.85
RUS-670521    END METRIC ADAPT #6 X14MM 1.5   $10.39    4    $41.56

The adapters are -6AN M14 with a thread pitch of 1.5. 

You'll also need crush washers for the adapters.  I just picked up the OEM washers from my local dealer.  If you're routing hose under the head to the other side of the bike, you might want to order more than 3 feet of hose.

And measure at least twice!!   ;)
'05 S4R (>47k mi); '04 Bandit 1200 (>92k mi; sold); '02 Bandit 1200 (>11k mi); '97 Bandit 1200 (2k mi); '13 FJR1300 (1k mi); IBA #28454 "45"

junior varsity

Question.....

Which one gets the straight fitting? Post pics, please, lest i stalk your pic account.

junior varsity

Answered my own question by looking in the garage. ha.

DucHead

Quote from: ato memphis on October 21, 2009, 01:18:43 PM
Answered my own question by looking in the garage. ha.

LOL, sorry I was away for a bit.   ;)   ;D
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hcomp

#83
I can do prefabbed SS lines as well. Just send me the exact length of the lines.  We use Aeroquip products all the good stuff and a bit less than Summit.

            Item                                               Price        
-6 AN HOSE 3 FT LENGTH              $5.15   x3    $15.45
  -6AN BLACK STRAIGHT SWIVEL    $5.65          $5.65  
  -6AN BLACK 45 DEG SWIVEL        $13.45  x3   $40.35
END METRIC ADAPT #6 X14MM 1.5   $9.25  x4   $37.00

These are what the fittings look like.....Not the typical red and blue
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junior varsity

I was looking at that. Explain the advantages/disadvantages of the SS, the SS/Teflon, and the lightweight lines for external oil lines, if you've a second.

ducatiz

Quote from: ato memphis on October 22, 2009, 04:35:29 AM
I was looking at that. Explain the advantages/disadvantages of the SS, the SS/Teflon, and the lightweight lines for external oil lines, if you've a second.

teflon lines have 3 advantages i know of -- first the outside is slippery so it doesn't bind like rubber.  rubber lines will rub away but teflon will slide.  second, teflon has a wide temp range of flexibility -- very hot and very cold -- so it won't stiffen up in cold like rubber will or get super flexible when hot -- and rubber swells over time too.  and third, it doesn't degrade.  rubber hose absorbs moisture and "breathes" whereas teflon rejects moisture.

the stainless sheath is simply a protector for the teflon hose inside.

afaik all of the stainless sheathed hose on the ducati bikes are teflon hose inside -- can someone confirm that?
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ducatiz

Quote from: ryanracer on October 21, 2009, 11:23:41 PM
I can do prefabbed SS lines as well. Just send me the exact length of the lines.  We use Aeroquip products all the good stuff and a bit less than Summit.

            Item                                               Price        
-6 AN HOSE 3 FT LENGTH              $5.15   x3    $15.45
  -6AN BLACK STRAIGHT SWIVEL    $5.65          $5.65  
  -6AN BLACK 45 DEG SWIVEL        $13.45  x3   $40.35
END METRIC ADAPT #6 X14MM 1.5   $9.25  x4   $37.00

These are what the fittings look like.....Not the typical red and blue


prolly gonna drop you a line, got an email?
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hcomp

#88
The disadvantage of teflon line however is the fact that it cannot bend in as tight of a radius and will kink easier.  Teflon has many advantages over rubber, but for oil lines regular rubber braided hose works well.  I have had them on some of my cars for years and my personal bike for a year now.  If you are running high pressure and high temp teflon is the best for that application and is also what is used on brake lines and power steering.  The oil temps and pressures on a bike do not require teflon.  We do offer teflon lines and fittings as well by the way if you do want to go that route.

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truckinduc

I wanna make stainless hardlines for mine.  For the sake of being different.

The problem is as soon as I do it Ill want to move the position of it.