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ducpainter

#555
May 14, 2011, 06:17:43 PM
Quote from: Gimpy on May 14, 2011, 06:15:36 PM
I've actually been quite surprised what I can still buy in cali.  While all the true PPG lines have gone waterborne, the Omni, and I believe the Nexa lines are just a little more low VOC then they used to be.  Also House of Kolor has a full range of low VOC that is still legal to purchase. 
I try to stay as far from regulation as possible. ;)
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Bradley81

#556
May 15, 2011, 06:34:13 AM
Thanks!!! I am a very happy new member and looking forward to posting pictures

Fakeflight

#557
July 19, 2011, 09:01:21 AM
Hi ducpainter :]

I have had some conflicting advice from two different sources and would like to know your opinion. I am in the process of doing a paint/vinyl makeover of my Monster and I will be applying the Cutgrafix full stripe monster set in red stripe against black gloss. The paint/body shop tells me that doing a clear coat over the vinyl will cause it to bubble (or at least it was the man who did the estimate, there is no telling what exactly his job was.)

Other sources (random google search forum board results) say that doing a clear coat is the best way to protect it. How should I go about this? Also, if I do need a clear coat over the vinyl is it possible to rattle can one on?
2002 Ducati M750S i.e.

ducpainter

#558
July 19, 2011, 07:07:28 PM
Cut-Grafix decals can be cleared over. Most quality vinyl can be.

Bubbling is not caused by clearing over vinyl. It is caused by trapped solvents due to inadequate cure/dry times.

You might want to find a shop that knows how.

I'd advise against un-activated products. There are 2K rattle cans available, but I have no FHE with them.
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 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
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    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
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Fakeflight

#559
July 20, 2011, 09:40:03 AM
Alright, thank you, that sure clears things up (no pun intended). I think I might know just the shop. Also do you think I might be able to rattle can my way out of a black gloss OEM windscreen? XD I'm just a cheap college student.
2002 Ducati M750S i.e.

ducpainter

#560
July 21, 2011, 03:46:55 AM
Quote from: Fakeflight on July 20, 2011, 09:40:03 AM
Alright, thank you, that sure clears things up (no pun intended). I think I might know just the shop. Also do you think I might be able to rattle can my way out of a black gloss OEM windscreen? XD I'm just a cheap college student.
I don't know what you mean.

Rattle can on a windscreen is better than rattle can on a tank.
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 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
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Fakeflight

#561
July 21, 2011, 06:40:56 AM
Ah, I was just worried about the flexibility on the windscreen and whether it would cause it to crack. After digging around a bit I found a post already suggesting rustoleum black works well, but thank you anyway. :)
2002 Ducati M750S i.e.

ducpainter

#562
July 21, 2011, 09:55:16 AM
Quote from: Fakeflight on July 21, 2011, 06:40:56 AM
Ah, I was just worried about the flexibility on the windscreen and whether it would cause it to crack. After digging around a bit I found a post already suggesting rustoleum black works well, but thank you anyway. :)
The screen isn't really flexible. Only parts that return to shape after impact require flex agents.
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a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent.”


erkishhorde

#563
August 22, 2011, 07:25:01 PM
Heya, DP can you recommend me a clear coat for carbon fiber exhausts that I can find anywhere? I noticed in one post that you recommended a urethane but when I go to somewhere like Autozone, all of their spray paints are acrylic. I was digging around in the garage and decided it's about time that I did something with my original carbon fiber exhausts that I took off the bike many years ago.
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ducpainter

#564
August 22, 2011, 07:48:19 PM
Automotive urethanes are usually 2 parts and require some spray equipment. They're bulletproof.

The rattle can stuff at autozone will be OK as long as your packing is good and you don't spill gas on them
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a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent.”


mojo

#565
August 23, 2011, 06:30:56 PM Last Edit: August 23, 2011, 06:34:27 PM by mojo
Here ya go. 2k clear in a spray can.  It's not something you want to paint a car with, but it's perfect for what you are looking for.http://www.eastwood.com/spray-max-rapid-cut-in-spot-clearcoat-aerosol.html
BTW, if/when you clear any carbon fiber part, you are going to find a TON of pinholes and flaws in the resin.  They can be filled in with clear (touching them up with a brush) but you will need to have a lot of patience to make it look perfect.
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TitanMonsterS4R

#566
November 01, 2011, 01:29:55 PM
Bought Duplicolor semi-gloss engine ceramic paint to do up my Speedymoto belt covers.  Is the best plan of action for results to -

-  Wash with dish soap then let dry. 
-  Spray metal primer then let dry. 
-  Spray 2 thin coats then let cure in oven @ 200 degrees for a bit.
-  Spray 2 more coats and the oven cure.

Process completed. 

Any guidance would be greatly appreciate. 
06 Monster S4R - Red/Black Final Edition

ducpainter

#567
November 01, 2011, 02:52:28 PM
Quote from: MadDuc 20/20 on November 01, 2011, 01:29:55 PM
Bought Duplicolor semi-gloss engine ceramic paint to do up my Speedymoto belt covers.  Is the best plan of action for results to -

-  Wash with dish soap then let dry. 
-  Spray metal primer then let dry. 
-  Spray 2 thin coats then let cure in oven @ 200 degrees for a bit.
-  Spray 2 more coats and the oven cure.

Process completed. 

Any guidance would be greatly appreciate. 
I wouldn't use regular primer if you're oven curing.

Are the covers aluminum?
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent.”


TitanMonsterS4R

#568
November 01, 2011, 04:18:27 PM
6061 billet I believe. 
06 Monster S4R - Red/Black Final Edition

ducpainter

#569
November 01, 2011, 04:27:11 PM
Quote from: MadDuc 20/20 on November 01, 2011, 04:18:27 PM
6061 billet I believe. 
My take...

most parts of a Duc engine do not require high temp paint.

Adhesion to aluminum is an issue.

Most primers for aluminum wont stand oven curing.

Get yourself some DuPont aluminum prep or Alodine...treat...paint.

If the paint you bought requires oven cure you won't hurt a primer not suited to heat.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent.”


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