College Football

Started by metallimonster, September 02, 2009, 05:27:18 AM

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Quote from: metallimonster on December 03, 2009, 03:52:50 AM
Most assuredly but not when they play your Butler Bulldogs in a couple of weeks (BB)

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Quote from: metallimonster on December 03, 2009, 03:52:50 AM
Maybe but not when they play your Butler Bulldogs in a couple of weeks (BB)

wrong thread, bro.

My bulldogs will have no problem with OSU.
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Quote from: swampduc on December 02, 2009, 08:39:27 PM
And for UF to get to the championship, they'll have to get past Bama, or vice versa. Think that's an easy one?
As far as scheduling goes, I've got a lot more respect for TCU than I do for Boise State. They knew their schedule in-conference would be a lot easier than anyone else's (that matters). They go out and schedule one tough team. They get what they deserve.

Go back a few pages. BSU tries to schedule as many tough non-conference teams as they can. Teams are now backing out on them.

Florida has played some pretty lame teams this year as well...FIU, Troy, Charleston Southern.  [roll]

I get what you're saying...Florida definitely has a tougher schedule in the long run...but they schedule some very weak out of conference games. Why don't they schedule BSU in the next couple years?  ;)

I also don't think BSU is a NC caliber team...but they should be given the opportunity. Playoff system...NOW!!!  ;D

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It is galling that Texas, barring a loss to Nebraska in the Big 12 championship game. has a very good chance of playing for the national championship. They're in what is arguably the weakest of the major conferences. If they don't make it to the championship, maybe one of the bowls can figure a way to have Texas play TCU. That would settle a lot of things.

The other scenario is that Alabama-Florida play a rematch in the BCS title game.
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Quote from: nicrosato on December 03, 2009, 10:47:35 AM

The other scenario is that Alabama-Florida play a rematch in the BCS title game.

Won't happen.  I think a similar situation presented itself a few years back.  Nobody wanted to see a repeat.  You'd have everyone yell, "Derby!"

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Quote from: kopfjäger on November 23, 2009, 03:43:41 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/powerRankings

WTF?
Oregon ranked 5th and BSU 8th?
Didnt they beat them fairly convincingly??

and this comment-
QuoteCould anyone in the top five shut down the Duck attack?
um, maybe not but #8 held them to 8 points.

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Quote from: JEFF_H on December 03, 2009, 12:44:48 PM
WTF?
Oregon ranked 5th and BSU 8th?
Didnt they beat them fairly convincingly??

and this comment- um, maybe not but #8 held them to 8 points.


Football voters have short memories... a loss in game one means less than a loss in the last couple of weeks... plus strength of schedule... I am a duck fan... but I am not saying that I think the rankings are always correct.
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Quote from: JEFF_H on December 03, 2009, 12:44:48 PM
WTF?
Oregon ranked 5th and BSU 8th?
Didnt they beat them fairly convincingly??

and this comment- um, maybe not but #8 held them to 8 points.


Oregon should be higher.

There are 5 top 25 teams in the PAC-10, including Oregon...and Oregon has beaten 3 of them. Should be 4 if they beat OSU tonight.

BSU has only beaten 1 ranked team.

Not to say BSU isn't an extremely good team...but strength of schedule should count for something. I'd love to see a rematch, and see is BSU is really that good, or if Oregon just had an off day.

JEFF_H

Meh, this system is retarded.
It has turned college football into a fantasy football game of stats

The best way to find out if one team is better than another one is to have them play each other.
find a way for the BCS to make money with a playoff system like they do with bowls

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Quote from: JEFF_H on December 03, 2009, 01:17:10 PM
The best way to find out if one team is better than another one is to have them play each other.
find a way for the BCS to make money with a playoff system like they do with bowls

Agreed.

I don't see what the problem with a playoff system is. They'd still have bowl games...the major bowls would just be part of a playoff. The remaining bowls would be for those ho didn't qualify for the playoffs.

I think they'd make more money...with as popular as March madness is for basketball, I have to think that a similar thing for football would be even more popular!

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Quote from: nicrosato on December 03, 2009, 10:47:35 AM
It is galling that Texas, barring a loss to Nebraska in the Big 12 championship game. has a very good chance of playing for the national championship. They're in what is arguably the weakest of the major conferences. If they don't make it to the championship, maybe one of the bowls can figure a way to have Texas play TCU. That would settle a lot of things.

The other scenario is that Alabama-Florida play a rematch in the BCS title game.
Galling? Ok, say you're the AD at Texas. You've got Oklahoma, Ok St, and Texas Tech in your division. This year, you've also got Mizzou and Kansas, both of whom were good teams in the last few years. You're telling me that you could have predicted that ALL those teams would have bad years? Ok, so you go out and schedule Utah and Arkansas in non-conf play. Both of them pull out, I guess figuring an early season ass-whoopin' wouldn't be a good thing when you're building a program. How is that Texas' fault? Apparently, in this thread, BSU gets credit for good teams not wanting to play them. Texas doesn't.
Now, I know lots of people don't like this, but it's part of the real world: respect is earned, and it takes time. Miami and FSU in the '80's weren't suddenly handed NC opportunities; they worked their way there over time. BSU has had a few good yrs playing mostly chumps and running up gaudy stats, kind of like the U of H Cougars in the 90's who also rode a gimmicky system and weak schedules to some success. Like U of H, BSU will get a reward: they'll be in a major bowl game. Even better, BSU probably won't face a juggernaut like those UH teams ended up facing. That helps their odds. Win a few of those and people will take them more and more seriously. They'll get their chance.
Or here's another path that they could take: upgrade their athletic facilities to where they meet Pac 10 standards and try to get into that conference. Do you think they'd look as good if they played USC, the Oregon teams, and Cal every year, and not just the occasional "statement game?" I doubt that BSU would ever do that, resources or not. It's a lot easier to sit on the outside crying about a lack of respect, than it is to get your ass in there and earn it. Let's see what they do in their BCS bowl game.
To me, TCU is a different case. They actually have played respectable teams in the last few years, both at home and away. Some of that probably has to do with the fact that they play in Texas, and programs have something to gain from playing there or being on TV there (recruiting). They also have a significantly higher talent level than BSU, probably because it's a lot easier to find talent in Texas and Oklahoma than it is to find talent in BFE. TCU is earning their way towards NC type respectability, if they can keep Gary Patterson around. That's a big "if."
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Quote from: JEFF_H on December 03, 2009, 01:17:10 PM
Meh, this system is retarded.
It has turned college football into a fantasy football game of stats

The best way to find out if one team is better than another one is to have them play each other.
find a way for the BCS to make money with a playoff system like they do with bowls

+1


This talk about a playoff system has been going on for more than 20yrs. Never say never, but "Never gonna happen."
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This is what I wanted!

I think Oregon matches up very well with Ohio State.  Great rush offense against great rush defense.  We haven't given up a hundred yard rusher in 21 games.  Plus who better to spy as Masoli than TP.  Oregon better be ready to stop our rushing attack too though.  Ohio State will not be letting Oregon have a 6 minute drive to end the game like the other OSU. 

Should be a great game. 

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Quote from: metallimonster on December 04, 2009, 03:21:50 AM
This is what I wanted!

I think Oregon matches up very well with Ohio State.  Great rush offense against great rush defense.  We haven't given up a hundred yard rusher in 21 games.  Plus who better to spy as Masoli than TP.  Oregon better be ready to stop our rushing attack too though.  Ohio State will not be letting Oregon have a 6 minute drive to end the game like the other OSU. 

Should be a great game. 

I predict another OSU meltdown in a bowl game.

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