Can anyone think of a reason why...

[muskrat]

post up so the posse can show

[Cher]

I've found a used canister and long pipe - the one with the second catalytic converter in it - so I think I may go that route instead of having my bike out of comission until I get everything sorted out.

I'm thinking about using a Dremel on the outer casing of the canister; looking at a typical cutting wheel, I think too much material would be removed while cutting, which could make it just that much harder for a welder to put back together cleanly.

We'll see     All I really know about this deal is that stock exhuast can is too friggin' heavy.

Thanks for the replies - y'all are great.

[hiero]

well, if they're too heavy, just get rid of them altogether 

[RED]

I don't have any beefs with my Termi slip on. I think the sound is awesome in fact. I love the sound around the 8 grand mark really. I think that with this slip on can whoever did the work did put a commander on it although I can't swear by it. The bike runs a tad rich but I like that. My performance is great so i'd say find a Termi like mine and enjoy it. JMTC

[RED]

checking out some more about exhausts and ran across this. CJ can tell you just how to do this mod too. I still suggest the Termi though. Scrolldown till hit 'Deano' and check out the muff mod .avi.

http://www.triumphrat.net/triumph-supersports/86713-my-new-2004-triumph-daytona-600-tornado-red.html

[Cher]

Cool, thanks for the link.  Power tools, sparks, Ducati pieces.  Ahhh, hand me a beer.

Or twenty.

And I've got nothing against Termis, aside from roughly 1000 bucks.  Several years ago, I found a used set of Termi slip-ons for my 620.  Best mod EVAH.  But they were only 350 bucks.  If I could find a Termi setup for my SBK that was under 500, I'd jump on it but I just haven't seen it, and probably won't.

So I'm thinking hack-n-slash...

[junior varsity]

I just lucked into some titanium NCR/Sil Moto pipes for my Monster, which are thunderously deep, crazy light, and fit perfect with the sil spaghetti and meatball headers. the deals are where its at.

[muskrat]

since exhaust is the topic can someone clue me in on why Termis are so damn expensive?  I've seen them made for non-Ducati's and they are WAYYYYYYYYYY cheaper.

[Samsonite]

I'm only guessing here, but they usually come with an air filter and ECU for Ducs and Most Ducs come with 2 silencers and most other bikes come with 1.

[petros2r]

So now you got me thinking... Me replacing the stock pipes with the Fresco and not doing any mapping or anything... Am I ought to ruing the engine? F*@&K the "perfectly-ruint" engine... Am i safe?

[Samsonite]

Brian, can you translate that shit ?

[petros2r]

Very cool, info.  Thanks for the replies; most lead me to believe that this chop/cut/rebuild SHOULD take place.  I mean why not?  What's the worst that can happen?  A totally ruined Ducati motor?  Phhh-t.  I ain't skeer'd...

Totally ruined? You mean "opportunity" for fancy motor work.

- Imean if you change your exhaust without re-mapping ar changing ECU - will it fu&*ck up your engine inany way?

[junior varsity]

I'm only guessing here, but they usually come with an air filter and ECU for Ducs and Most Ducs come with 2 silencers and most other bikes come with 1.

I think that's spot on. My carb'd 900's kit in the DP catalog back in the day was a hell of a lot cheaper than the IE models. In the package: You got pipes. In the IE package: You got filter, ECU, pipes.

So you are paying more for the electronic gizmo and air filter to go with the pipes, however I'm thinking that the DP air filter is no better than the BMC or K&N, but probably costs a lot more.

[alexisonfire]

- Imean if you change your exhaust without re-mapping ar changing ECU - will it fu&*ck up your engine inany way?

typically not.  my bike has the full arrow system with stock ecu.  bouncing off of the rev limiter every time you ride may f*ck up your engine in some way. 

[fastwin]

typically not.  my bike has the full arrow system with stock ecu.  bouncing off of the rev limiter every time you ride may f*ck up your engine in some way.  

I think he has the petros2r/english dictionary that I misplaced. I agree with the answer too. You could throw tons of money, Power Commanders, dyno time, etc. at it and the bike may or may not run any better than just slapping on aftermarket cans and doing nothing else. Sure, it may run a little leaner in certain areas of the rev range and it might pop a little more when you chop the throttle. But you probably wouldn't tell much difference as far as the "seat of the pants" dyno. I don't think normal (as in not abusive) use with just a can swap will hurt an engine at all.

Hell, I bet 75% of all the sport bikes screaming around town with full systems or slip ons have had no carb re-jetting or ecu work. Even my GSXR1000 had just a Yosh slip on and nothing else a long time ago. It has a full system now and a custom mapped PC and it seems to be very happy. [moto]