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Started by Gator, October 22, 2009, 11:16:03 AM

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Monster Dave

#30
October 23, 2009, 01:12:58 PM Last Edit: October 23, 2009, 01:15:24 PM by Monster Dave
Vaccines are necessary - believe me that for some situations, I do agree with that. At the same time, as much as I am willing to acknowledge that there's a necessity for them, you (the reader) must be humble enough to acknowledge that even if vaccines in general have helped that not all of them will do good and that there is a certain amount of accountability that gets overlooked in instances like this when proper procedures aren't followed (referring to the FDA lawsuit).

I certainly don't deny the advances of medicine are sometimes greatest when we fail and learn from trials, but that's the purpose of clinical trials. I know this first hand as I work for a clinical and translational science center. If this lawsuit is in fact valid, many people will be held responsible for any fatalities or late onset reactions caused by the vaccine.

All I'm suggesting is that we look before we leap.

;)
 

Drjones

#31
October 23, 2009, 02:44:54 PM
Quote from: Triple J on October 23, 2009, 12:28:48 PM
. . . so the vaccine is voluntary. . .

The government will see to that once they get their single payer system in place.  It'll end up being get the flu shot or be fined.

Tin foil hats are fun to play with.  :D
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NAKID

#32
October 23, 2009, 02:47:30 PM
When we get the H1N1 in, it is mandatory for military members...
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herm

#33
October 23, 2009, 03:41:59 PM


cant say a agreed with everything (even most) of whats in the book.....but an interesting read regardless
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Gator

#34
October 23, 2009, 03:43:21 PM
Quote from: Mr. Exact on October 23, 2009, 02:47:30 PM
When we get the H1N1 in, it is mandatory for military members...

This was caused by the season flu shot not the H1N1 vaccine

NAKID

#35
October 23, 2009, 03:46:42 PM
I know that, it's mandatory as well. But, some people had brought up the H1N1...
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moto-zen

#36
October 23, 2009, 03:56:46 PM
Quote from: Mr. Exact on October 23, 2009, 02:47:30 PM
When we get the H1N1 in, it is mandatory for military members...
Healthcare workers too. It's "get the shot, or lose your job".
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give to those who are not. - Thomas Jefferson

Statler

#37
October 23, 2009, 04:03:22 PM
Quote from: blac9 on October 23, 2009, 03:56:46 PM
Healthcare workers too. It's "get the shot, or lose your job".

no it's not.   
It's still buy a flounder a drink month

Pip

#38
October 23, 2009, 04:54:41 PM
Dude... I couldn't finish that video.  :-[
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ducpainter

#39
October 23, 2009, 05:32:51 PM
Quote from: cyrus buelton on October 23, 2009, 04:59:41 AM
Nah, I don't watch Fox.


1/1,000,000 is pretty long shot man.


I am willing to take that risk any day.
So where are you getting your numbers?
Quote from: Mr. Exact on October 23, 2009, 12:22:34 PM
There's tons of things I could go out and "file a lawsuit" about. Doesn't mean there is any merit to it.

Vaccines have done more good than any other medical advancement EVER.
Vaccines are destroying our society....

and I'm not talking about Polio, that was eradicated by a vaccine...that was developed over years of trials using stringent trials and the same procedures

I'm talking about a community that is trying to make our society 'sterile via vaccine' for no better reason than the profit of a make the beast with two backsing pharmaceutical company.

All you mothermake the beast with two backslers rag on me about being old...you'll all be lucky to live as long.

I suggest we go back to the immunization schedule I was subjected to...

I had a polio vaccine...and tetanus...I don't think I had any others because I had every single disease that all you people are trying to avoid...

and guess what...?

I didn't die...yet death or some disability by vaccine is acceptable?

I think you should get all of them...

twice.

And don't forget to inject your little girl with the same poison you think is so valuable.

Sorry Chris.

That's how strongly I disagree with your statement.
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NAKID

#40
October 23, 2009, 05:40:53 PM
You are more than welcome to disagree with me. BUT

Being in the business I am, I see that the general populous is at a greater risk that it has been in the past. To diseases that were either not as prevalent or didn't exist when you, or hell, even I was growing up.

Haley is currently up to date on the CDC's recommended immunizations, as is my older daughter, Amanda, and myself...
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LMT

#41
October 23, 2009, 05:51:04 PM
I had Rubella twice as a kid, got the flu every winter and then again in the spring.  I am no worse for it.

I spent over 7 years in a ambulance full time and never have had the flu shot.  I got exposed to everything and build up immunity.  I had the flu in 1992, but not since.

I keep my tetanus current and that cover whooping cough also.

ducpainter

#42
October 23, 2009, 05:54:57 PM
Quote from: Mr. Exact on October 23, 2009, 05:40:53 PM
You are more than welcome to disagree with me. BUT

Being in the business I am, I see that the general populous is at a greater risk that it has been in the past. To diseases that were either not as prevalent or didn't exist when you, or hell, even I was growing up.


from which diseases? Is it worth the risk of the vaccines? I think not.

measles mumps  rubella and chicken pox are no more fatal to the majority of kids than they ever were.

We're being scammed.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


NAKID

#43
October 23, 2009, 05:58:01 PM
I'm going to bow out because there is no way I am going to convince you and vice versa...
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ducpainter

#44
October 23, 2009, 06:04:52 PM
Quote from: Mr. Exact on October 23, 2009, 05:58:01 PM
I'm going to bow out because there is no way I am going to convince you and vice versa...
no one has to win. :-\

"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


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