Multistrada 1200

Started by Slide Panda, October 30, 2009, 08:13:33 AM

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superjohn

Quote from: teddy037.2 on November 10, 2009, 10:40:24 PM
saw the link but never clicked it... I suppose I should, eh?

Didn't we al take the survey for the new Monster when it came out and decried the cast subframe?

I think the survey is just to get your E-mail address to send you those, "hey, isn't it time for a new Ducati" E-mails.

herm

Quote from: superjohn on November 11, 2009, 02:06:17 AM
Didn't we al take the survey for the new Monster when it came out and decried the cast subframe?

I think the survey is just to get your E-mail address to send you those, "hey, isn't it time for a new Ducati" E-mails.

recall however that they _did_ at least black it out.

anyway, ducati does watch and listen, even if they dont ultimately do everything the way we want them to. who knows, maybe by the time i could afford tha bike, they will have given it a nose job.

as for the email.....if you give out your real email, than yes, you may get marketing spam.
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mostro-nero

here they have already started thinking of mods...single termi exhaust doesnt look too bad, carbon fibre scoops lesson the impact


yoreese

Think I would have to go with the BMW GS for style and practicality.  [moto]
1999 M750 Dark
2002 ST4S

factorPlayer

Quote from: yoreese on November 11, 2009, 04:31:51 AM
Think I would have to go with the BMW GS for style and practicality.  [moto]

not for performance though  [roll]

Popeye the Sailor

Quote from: factorPlayer on November 11, 2009, 07:18:53 AM
not for performance though  [roll]

I'll say it again. Tourers need longer service intervals. End of story. It's the weakest point of that bike.


Think of the marketing. "Comfy enough to do a thousand miles a day! But rest on Sunday and adjust those valves!"

If the state had not cut funding for the mental institutions, this project could never have happened.

Raux

what is the service interval for the new head design?

does anyone know?


DRKWNG

Quote from: MrIncredible on November 11, 2009, 07:51:35 AM
I'll say it again. Tourers need longer service intervals. End of story. It's the weakest point of that bike.


Think of the marketing. "Comfy enough to do a thousand miles a day! But rest on Sunday and adjust those valves!"

Just gives you the chance to wash your knickers.

herm

what about shaft drive vs. chain drive? i would think that the shaft drive would be less maintenance intensive over long periods (right up until it breaks down anyway)
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mitt

Quote from: herm (not herb) on November 11, 2009, 10:12:47 AM
what about shaft drive vs. chain drive? i would think that the shaft drive would be less maintenance intensive over long periods (right up until it breaks down anyway)

Chain doesn't bother me - look at ktm's and dakar.  A lot of chains can be found in stock at any dealership too versus the final drive of a 1200gs.

mitt

ScottRNelson

Quote from: mitt on November 11, 2009, 10:40:39 AM
Chain doesn't bother me - look at ktm's and dakar.  A lot of chains can be found in stock at any dealership too versus the final drive of a 1200gs.
Plus it's WAY easier to alter the final gearing with a chain drive than with any of the alternatives.

Even BMW uses chains on some models, like the F800GS.
Scott R. Nelson, 2001 XR650L, 2020 KTM 790 Adv R, Meridian, ID

hillbillypolack

Quote from: factorPlayer on November 11, 2009, 07:18:53 AM
not for performance though  [roll]

You ought to ride a GS.  Seriously.  [roll]

100hp is a lot of power off road, and ABS is frequently switched "off" for those using a bike in loose surface conditions.

Triple J

Quote from: hillbillypolack on November 11, 2009, 10:55:59 AM
You ought to ride a GS.  Seriously.  [roll]

100hp is a lot of power off road, and ABS is frequently switched "off" for those using a bike in loose surface conditions.

I know it's all personal...but I have a Multi, and used to have an '05 GS. The Multi is hands down better on the road. I don't think the GS was better in any way, other than maybe carrying capacity, on the road.

I also think the Multi is better off-road. The GS was just too damn heavy. I'm not a dirt rider, so off-road for me means dirt roads of varying quality...but no nobbies for sure. In those conditions the Multi is just easier to handle due to it's much lighter weight. The only advantage the GS had off-road in my mind was I wasn't as afraid to drop it...just figured it would take it better.

That's not to say the GS isn't a nice bike...I just preferred the Multi over it. Lots will disagree I'm sure.  ;D The new one should be even better I'm guessing.

hillbillypolack

I think what makes the Multi "better" in some people's opinion is the long travel suspension and more upright riding position.  In that category, the Triumph Tiger is also a great bike.  Another bike that needs to be ridden to appreciate, as is the KTM Adventure, which is a flippin hoot and in this very same category.

This can easily spiral into an adversarial conversation about weight, ability, power, and preference.  Just as easily as the GS vs. GSA owners do.

I just don't honestly see how Ducati can claim to have a "dual sport" model with road tires on 17"s with 150hp.  As a great "all road" bike, okay, I can see that.  What's not to love about suspension travel and bags of torque?  Proposed that way, it looks to me to be better defined as an all road tourer.

Personally, I liked the original MTS design, if you stripped off the R2D2 cowl.  It was/is a great platform for simplicity and usable road riding.

mitt

Quote from: hillbillypolack on November 11, 2009, 11:16:24 AM


I just don't honestly see how Ducati can claim to have a "dual sport" model with road tires on 17"s with 150hp.  As a great "all road" bike, okay, I can see that.  

I don't think they are claiming dual sport.  I don't remember reading that in any of the official media.  They use enduro to describe it, and maybe that is splitting hairs.

mitt