Corey's 2R800 Fork Swap... Now 999 Forks...

[Charlief]

Not to Jack the thread but.....

What's the advantage of using tapered bearings?  I'll be taking my front end apart but I'll be using the stock trips when everything goes back together.

I have no play in the front end and was just going to reuse the old bearings.   

[corey]

Not to Jack the thread but.....

What's the advantage of using tapered bearings?  I'll be taking my front end apart but I'll be using the stock trips when everything goes back together.

I have no play in the front end and was just going to reuse the old bearings.   

Well, according to speedymoto, the sealed tapered bearings all but eliminate head shake, and require much less maintenance than open ball bearings ducati uses for OEM.

http://www.speedymoto.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=03-02TB-1&Category_Code=BR

[corey]

The IMA triples come with the steering stem.

You'll measaure to the top of the lower triple. That will stay the same when you change triples because the triples are flat across the top. The extension is southbound on thicker triples.

If you order a set of bearings from SpeedyMoto (they'll send you SKF) it will include the washer that goes below the lower tapered bearing on the steering stem and the cover washer that goes just below the adjustment nut on the stem (above the top bearing set).

The races will be pressed in to the stem. You knock the old ones out and drive the new ones in. Freeze 'em and they drop in even easier, but this is not difficult it turns out.


Note, that when I say it comes included in the speedymoto kit, I can only speak from experience for the older Monsters (pre 02, and all SS's, and 851/888 bikes) because they came with a tapered bearing set from the factory.

Excellent Information.
Thanks my friend.
I love the IMA triples, i forgot that you had purchased them.
They look so... beefy

This is turning out to be a great informative thread.
When all is said and done, I will do a compilation thread, and hopefully a how-to on my fork swap for the Tut's section.

I'm sure i'll have more questions, so stay tuned.

[junior varsity]

I believe one advantage of tapered bearings is how the load is placed on the bearing surface. Make sure to pack 'em full of grease.

Before...


At some point, you'll be at this stage, I call it "half way"


(Crackberry Pic)

Then...


Then...


The "After" shot is soon approaching. Should be 'done' with this project near Jan 1.

[corey]

Yum. Looking awesome man.
What clipons you got in there? I've been looking at the Swatt's myself. And some Coffin spacers of course...

[junior varsity]

Those are CycleCat's I have had for quite a long time. They are the titanium finish and matched well the titanium colored CycleCat top triple I used to have.

[corey]

ATO, did you get risers with your triples? or no?
If not, was the top triple still equipped with holes/threads for risers?

[junior varsity]

Nah, I'm still using Clipons (CycleCat) from before when I had a CycleCat triple (no holes for the risers on it).

It does come with the holes drilled for risers though. They can provide risers as well, and/or spread the holes further apart for tapered bars like the Rizoma Conical bar and many others (which are stronger).

[junior varsity]

Also note that your setup won't look silly like my tall DP gauges or my excess throttle cabling for the Euro Racing Throttle. Those are aesthetic detractors from my setup, but are more function over form up there anyhow. I need to eventually come up with a better looking solution that accomplishes the same goal (like FCRs and a MotoGadget)

[corey]

Great. I'm planning on going clipons to be able to clear my SBK fork adjusters without going to high on the bars, but want to be able to put risers on down the road if i get too old and rickity... in about 25 years... i'll probably just have them throw in the risers, just so i have something that matches... i'd love to put a motogadget on my bike... i hate the stock gauges... so damn big. i'd have to get the immobilizer deactivated though... but i would also get a DP reflash too, so that could be nice..
my savings account hates this bike.

[corey]

Anyone know the length (height) of the stock fork tubes on the S2R800? (marzochhi forks)

[Speeddog]

Anyone know the length (height) of the stock fork tubes on the S2R800? (marzochhi forks)

I'll know later tonight....

[stopintime]

I'll know later tonight....

Sorry, I know you offered first, but I couldn't help myself.....

455/450mm with or without the dust seal and including top cap

[Speeddog]

No problem. 

[corey]

So i'm trying to get in gear on this project... Some unexpected (but warranted) expenses came up and slowed things down... (new tv ) but i think i'm ready to at least get the forks resprung...

I've settled on a .95kg spring rate, which i think should be good for me @ 190-195lbs, depending on whether or not i take a crap before i ride...

Next question... fluid/oil... what weight fork oil do i need? what brand fluid? i have no clue on this, as i couldn't find much in my book about fluid choices...