Reuseable Oil Filter

[He Man]

http://www.motorcycle.com/products/kp-engineerings-reusable-oil-filter-71983.html

Anyone have any experience with this? in an effort to go green and reduce waste, anything thats reuseable is not only environmentally friendly, but also saves you money in having to buy oil filters. Especially for you guys who change their oil as frequently 2,000 miles.

[MonsterTom]

This looks like a sweet filter assembly.  I particularly like the magnet at the bottom of the filter to trap metalic particles.  Any idea what it costs?

[ducpainter]

The ad says $120-$150 depending on finish and bike model

[cokey]

Do they make them for cars?

[JetTest]

Looks like a clone of the Scott's reusable stainless steel filter. I think I paid $108 for my Scott's, delivered.

[He Man]

i was on scotts website too. they run 148 for duc filters. worth it i guess, especially at 15 an change. ive already gone through 4 filters.

[erkishhorde]

So... How does this type of thing get cleaned? I understand the cleaning of a re-useable air filter since you essentially back flow and push everything out, but this one...? Maybe I just don't get it because I don't understand the flow of oil in a filter. Does the oil go from the outside of the cloth into the middle or the opposite way? I thought it was inside to outside in which case I don't understand how you clean the particles out to re-use it.

[Dietrich]

The filter in the link is identicle to the Scotts.  I have one and it definitely flows from outside to inside.  I've cleaned mine about 4 or 5 times now.  I just soak it in some solvent, then hose it out with spray brake cleaner from the inside out (careful to not let the particles flow back into the middle of the filter section.).  Then I blow it out with compressed air.  There is always a fine collection of stuff on the magnet, and bigger stuff on the screen amongst the other fine stuff that is caught.  Seems to be working well for me.  Plus, it has fins, and I'm a sucker for anything with more fins.

[corey]

i've heard of problems regarding oil pressure with these extremely high flow filters... anyone else heard anything like that?

[dlearl476]

Looks like a clone of the Scott's reusable stainless steel filter. I think I paid $108 for my Scott's, delivered.

FWIW, I got a dozen Perf-Form oil filters for around $70.  Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of Scott's filter and run them on two bikes, my SprintST and my F650, but unless you do a LOT of miles, economy isn't the best selling point of a Scott's filter. 

Plus, it has fins, and I'm a sucker for anything with more fins.

Now you're talkin'!

i've heard of problems regarding oil pressure with these extremely high flow filters... anyone else heard anything like that?

No problems here, nor have I heard of any from several pals with Scott's and nearly a hundred thousand combined miles.

[Mr Earl]

The KP Engineering filter specs show a rating of 35 microns.  That's kinda big, IMO.  Presumably that's how they achieve high flow rates.  But what's the point of avoiding filter bypass if you accomplish it by not filtering very well?  I think I'd rather have a momentary bypass of unfiltered oil combined with high particulate retention for 99+% of engine operation, than no bypass and less retentive filtration.

For reference, the Amsoil Eao filters (no affiliation) list a 15-micron rating.

[He Man]

The KP Engineering filter specs show a rating of 35 microns.  That's kinda big, IMO.  Presumably that's how they achieve high flow rates.  But what's the point of avoiding filter bypass if you accomplish it by not filtering very well?  I think I'd rather have a momentary bypass of unfiltered oil combined with high particulate retention for 99+% of engine operation, than no bypass and less retentive filtration.

For reference, the Amsoil Eao filters (no affiliation) list a 15-micron rating.

K&N filters are rated at 25microns.
The scotts and AP both state that they filter down to 35micron absolute.
Amsoil Eao filters seem to be the oddity, being almost too good.

now what kind of contaminants in our oil are smaller than 35 microns and whats the % by voulme of it in a normal engine?

[Popeye the Sailor]

K&N filters are rated at 25microns.
The scotts and AP both state that they filter down to 35micron absolute.
Amsoil Eao filters seem to be the oddity, being almost too good.

now what kind of contaminants in our oil are smaller than 35 microns and whats the % by voulme of it in a normal engine?

And let's not skip the important question-do contaminants that small matter to the motor?

[erkishhorde]

K&N filters are rated at 25microns.
The scotts and AP both state that they filter down to 35micron absolute.
Amsoil Eao filters seem to be the oddity, being almost too good.

now what kind of contaminants in our oil are smaller than 35 microns and whats the % by voulme of it in a normal engine?

Is that K&N size for the normal K&N filter? Do they even make a re-useable one? I'm just curious.

[LowThudd]

I wouldn't think that it would be a green way to go if solvent and brake cleaner are required to clean them. Any Autozone or similar will take your old filter and recycle it, which is the greanest way to go. As far as ease of use, my bike(86 radian) REQUIRES that the filter be taken apart and reassembled, which to me is a PITA. I would much rather have the standard screw on filter. As far as cost, it won't pay for it's self for 10-15 oil changes(including solvent and brake cleaner) which equates to 20,000-@40,000 miles. That's alot of work and expense with very little return unless it filtered finer material.  Just MHO.