If you had to choose . . .

Started by Mike_D, February 24, 2010, 02:07:38 AM

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zarn02

Quote from: NoisyDante on February 24, 2010, 11:48:17 AM
I have not heard anything of any redeeming quality in many many years, I agree with you.  Might move my deadline up to 2000, but definitely nothing in the 21st century has any sort of longevity to it.

"The older I get, the more stuff made recently sucks."

Every decade has good stuff, it just may not be on the radio. You have to be willing to put forth the effort.

*says the guy whose album list features an overwhelming majority of albums released in the 90's* [roll]
"If it weren't for our gallows humor, we'd have nothing to hang our hopes on."

NoisyDante

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Of course there is good music for every decade, I'm not literally saying it is 100% hopeless out there right now, I just heard a group the other day called 'Islands' which was promising and a local guy here named Geoff Earley is really innovative.  Things have just gotten too pretentious for my taste lately, and being an audio engineer, I've seen how the technical advances have collapsed the industry I was trying to get into.  I do not like the production techniques of popular music on the radio right now, and I also do not like the indie hipsters in the garages.  I am wondering where true talent has gone.  That's me though, just my opinion, and obviously everyone has their own opinion.  

I will say though the lack of new enjoyable music for me has allowed me to look into the past for bands I missed, and I'm finding gems I would have otherwise not found.
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zarn02

Fair enough.

Having been in a band that opted to record using "modern techniques" I can say I'm not a huge fan. Give me live tracking and no tone correction, please. :P
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Speedbag

Quote from: zarn02 on February 24, 2010, 12:18:17 PM
Fair enough.

Having been in a band that opted to record using "modern techniques" I can say I'm not a huge fan. Give me live tracking and no tone correction, please. :P

+1

Love a good, tight, garage band performance.  [thumbsup]
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NoisyDante

Quote from: zarn02 on February 24, 2010, 12:18:17 PM

Having been in a band that opted to record using "modern techniques" I can say I'm not a huge fan. Give me live tracking and no tone correction, please. :P

Now we're talkin  [thumbsup]
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lauramonster

when rock 'n roll was young, the bands drew from many sources : blues, gospel, r & b, rockabilly, folk, etc.  

Now that rock has such a huge compilation to listen to, the bands seem one dimensional.  Led Zepplin was the king of mixing in those influences, as well as old rolling stones.  Dave Matthews seems like the last big group to mix styles and come up with something innovative (I didn't forget Nirvana.  they were great, but before dave).



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zarn02

Holy God I hate Dave Matthews Band. They're technically interesting, varied, multi-dimensional, talented, and bore the living shit out of me. :P
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lauramonster

Quote from: zarn02 on February 24, 2010, 01:23:39 PM
Holy God I hate Dave Matthews Band. They're technically interesting, varied, multi-dimensional, talented, and bore the living shit out of me. :P

and some of the bands mentioned bore the shit out of me.  But, that's why they make chocolate and vanilla.  

ps - for the record, Dave wouldn't make it in my top ten.  But I do enjoy it for a change of pace.

So zarn02, do you think rock is getting less dimensional?  Maybe it's the record industry that's not willing to risk a lot of money on something different.  not sure how it happened, just sayin' I see it.
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zarn02

Quote from: lauramonster on February 24, 2010, 01:29:13 PM
and some of the bands mentioned bore the shit out of me.  But, that's why they make chocolate and vanilla.  

ps - for the record, Dave wouldn't make it in my top ten.  But I do enjoy it for a change of pace.

So zarn02, do you think rock is getting less dimensional?  Maybe it's the record industry that's not willing to risk a lot of money on something different.  not sure how it happened, just sayin' I see it.

Fair enough. Not meant as an attack, just a remark. Different strokes, and all that.

I think that the traditional record industry is in its death throes, and right now are trying desperately to survive using an outmoded business model. In order to keep themselves above water they're pushing whatever they think will pull the most sales. Lowest common denominator.

Interesting music comes out, but it's being released by smaller labels (or independently.)

That's my underinformed observation, anyway.
"If it weren't for our gallows humor, we'd have nothing to hang our hopes on."

lauramonster

didn't take it as an attack, but thanks for caring   :-*


hard to hear those not in main stream music.  Pandora's opened a few groups up to me, and a local college radio station (but it tends to be more mellow than I like).  'what are you listening to' has some unusual stuff also. 
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acalles

Quote from: Mike_D on February 24, 2010, 04:31:08 AM
Considering the advancement of the portable, large capacity, MP3 player and corresponding digital music industry such as ITunes, Rhapsody, et al., perhaps the concept of the traditional album has become archaic and so last century. I respectfully withdraw the question  :)   

nope, its a good question.

if I was going to be trapped on a desert island I don't really care what 10 CD's I have. there going to be strategically positioned to help me get attention from passing by search air craft I hope would be looking for me. a MP3 player won't do me any good, especially once the batteries run out.

or.
1. Deftones Adrenaline
2. Tool Lateralus.
3. stevie ray vaugn the sky is crying.
5.  Iron Maiden power slave.
6. Metallica Master of puppets.
7. Portishead dummy.
8. led zepplin IV
9. Beastie Boys Ill Communication
10. Rush exit stage left.

superjohn

In no particular order

Rush - Different Stages
Dream Theater - Live Scenes from New York
Porcupine Tree - Deadwing
Marillion - Thieving Magpie
The Who - Live at Leeds
Queen - Innuendo
Savatage - Dead Winter Dead
Van Der Graaf Generator -  Maida Vale
Peter Gabriel - Secret World Live
Frank Zappa - You can't do that on stage anymore.


lethe

I just googled the list I'd want.
I figured this list would give me motivation to escape the island or if others were stuck there too at least I could enjoy pissing them off.

10. EILERT PILARM: Greatest Hits
9. MAE WEST: Way Out West
8. PADDY ROBERTS: Songs for Gay Dogs
7. SAMMY PETRILLO: My Son, the Phone Caller
6. THE NATIONAL GALLERY: Performing Musical Interpretations of the Paintings of Paul Klee
5. HELEN GURLEY BROWN: Lessons in Love
4. LITTLE MARCY: Little Marcy Visits Smokey the Bear
3. MR. METHANE: Mr. Methane.com
2. LUCIA PAMELA: Into Outer Space with Lucia Pamela
1. MUHAMMAD ALI: The Adventures of Ali and His Gang vs. Tooth Decay

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LA

Abby Road
Allman Bros., “Statesboro Blues”
Beach Boys, “Pet Sounds”
Beethoven's greatest hits
Derrick and the Dominos, “Layla”
Jimi Hendrix, “Greatest Hits”
John Coletrane, “A love Supreme”
Leon Russell, and The Shelter People
Miles Davis, "Kind of Blue"
Mozart's greatest hits
Thelonious Monk, “Blue Monk”
Thelonious Monk, “Straight, No Chaser”
U2 â€" “Joshua Tree”

Zat 10 yet?

LA
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ducpainter

Quote from: LA on February 24, 2010, 04:55:35 PM
Abby Road
Allman Bros., “Statesboro Blues”
Beach Boys, “Pet Sounds”
Beethoven's greatest hits
Derrick and the Dominos, “Layla”
Jimi Hendrix, “Greatest Hits”
John Coletrane, “A love Supreme”
Leon Russell, and The Shelter People
Miles Davis, "Kind of Blue"
Mozart's greatest hits
Thelonious Monk, “Blue Monk”
Thelonious Monk, “Straight, No Chaser”
U2 â€" “Joshua Tree”

Zat 10 yet?

LA

Mozart put out a greatest hits album?
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