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Author Topic: Mid-sized Monster 796 Coming to USA  (Read 40481 times)
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« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2010, 05:52:20 AM »

you are probably right, if i were to bet your life on it , i would say its a wet clutch bike.  its a shame but from what i hear the 848 dry clutch conversion will fit on practically any wet clutch bike.
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« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2010, 06:08:57 AM »

Mid size is always a good option for those that are starting, but feel that they will outgrow the 696. Those people just look at the CC's and not the actual HP.
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« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2010, 06:24:50 AM »

It'll be a wet clutch.  I'd bet your life on it.   Wink

I'm really trying to figure out Ducati's marketing moves.  They tried to get away from having too many overlapping options.  Now, they're back to it again.  

totally different top management AND ownership now.

the HMT 796 is wet, and they will use the same powerplant down to the nuts. 

as far as the wet/dry issue, i am sure someone figured out that they sell the bikes wet and the nerds who want a dry clutch will buy a DP conversion kit (ala 848).  I bet it will show up in the next DP catalogue... (Fits all 796 models...)

Smarter to sell the wet clutch for noise laws and offer the dry clutch as an option that costs $$$. 

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« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2010, 06:25:29 AM »


Oh thank god. I was hoping the trend of maximizing HP, cc and top speed was going to go the way of spinner rims and Hummers.

Dear motorcycle manufacturers: Less power, better handling!

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« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2010, 06:27:56 AM »

anyone want to buy my 696 dark? Roll Eyes
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« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2010, 06:44:07 AM »

watch them drop the prices on the 696 and then discontinue it after 1-2 years.
Then after a couple more years they can bring out a new lower cc/lower spec'ed Monster called the 626 that really just has the same old 620 (618 cc) engine in it.  That way the Monster models can be more evenly spaced.  Perhaps the Monster 1100 will be moved up to a true 1123 cc's and that will put even more distance between it and the 796 (803 cc) Monster. 
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« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2010, 06:58:27 AM »

I think this is a great move, i own a S2R 800 and really like it. I bought it purposely because of the wet ATPC for all my city commuting but wanted the S2R styling and not the 620.

Also while it will be another model i don't think it will be hard for ducati to build it, i would money it will be a cobbled together parts bin bike as they are already mentioning: 1100 chassis, lower spec suspension, probably wet ATPC clutch, 796 motor from hyper. I bet it won't be difficult at all and imo a smart move by ducati.

They are essentially reacting to consumer demand by filling a gap without increasing (dramatically) anyway production costs. Whether it cannabilizes 696 sales or not, they can always slow production on the 696 if the 796 is more popular.

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« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2010, 07:14:35 AM »

By the time my wife caves and lets me buy one, the 796 will be out!  I just like it for the height, as being a 6' 215lbs guy, I was worried the 696 was going to be a little cramped...
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« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2010, 07:17:46 AM »

At that height, you might want to look at the baby Hyper instead.
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« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2010, 07:18:21 AM »

I can't see the point of putting a dry clutch on it. Almost anyone who's a non duc owner knows shit about those clutches-I don't think it's a huge selling point.

I'd be more intereste din the 400 anyways.
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« Reply #25 on: March 23, 2010, 07:22:25 AM »

in reality the 696 doesn't need to exist when this comes. the seat height is moot as all you need to do is change the rear shock mount and pull the forks through a bit or even use the shorter forks. they might even offer it as an option like BMW does for their bikes.

I would bet the 696 goes away after 1 year. the 796 comes down to the 696 price point and it allows them to justify lowering the price of the 1100 further away from the SF.

good strategy. the 1100 is needed, but it's priced too close to the SF, so sales are being robbed. the 796 is price too close to the 696 for both to exist for long

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« Reply #26 on: March 23, 2010, 07:24:21 AM »

it should drop to a 596, the 796 is intended to be the middle weight monster. i ask you, where is the lightweight monster? the 696 is 80hp - where's the more "entry level" bike?
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« Reply #27 on: March 23, 2010, 09:04:04 AM »

I'm really trying to figure out Ducati's marketing moves.  They tried to get away from having too many overlapping options.  Now, they're back to it again.  

Not that much to figure out I think; the 1100 was priced to high. For some reason they can't/won't lower the price. Only option is is a lower spec'd  version.

I would bet the 696 goes away after 1 year. the 796 comes down to the 696 price point and it allows them to justify lowering the price of the 1100 further away from the SF.

Lowering is never gonna happen (imagine you just bought the year before). Probably price will stay the same over a couple of years while the SF will rise in price.

Sad outlook, but they just really f#! upped the pricing of the 1100.
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« Reply #28 on: March 23, 2010, 09:27:07 AM »


I'd be more intereste din the 400 anyways.

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That would be a great monster line up! 400ish, 800ish and 1100ish. Perfect. Or do away with the 1100 and just have the monsters be the baby bikes. The Hyper, the race bikes should satisfy the hooligans and speed demons.

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« Reply #29 on: March 23, 2010, 09:31:13 AM »

or a supermono 424...

errr here we go down the ducati model lineup speculation road again.
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