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« Reply #30 on: May 28, 2010, 07:28:09 PM »

Durbahn is another that does the SBK 2V mix and superlight weight. BUT his site is offline. hope that doesn't mean anything bad.

edit: sorry stand corrected. it's a 4v 1098 and it's 305lbs WITH fuel  Shocked

Pics, website. Please. (no oil or battery?)
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« Reply #31 on: May 28, 2010, 07:38:01 PM »

Pics, website. Please. (no oil or battery?)
http://durbahn.de/Web%201098.htm
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« Reply #32 on: May 28, 2010, 08:04:30 PM »


Does it explain the weight loss in there, and what they removed/added to get there?
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« Reply #33 on: May 28, 2010, 08:12:20 PM »

Does it explain the weight loss in there, and what they removed/added to get there?

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« Reply #34 on: May 28, 2010, 08:15:41 PM »

Click on the 'flag' navigation on the left.

I did. I don't see where all the weight savings came from.
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« Reply #35 on: May 28, 2010, 10:32:05 PM »



V3-the Weight.

August 28/2008.

- incl. 2.5 Liters of Fuel    ( 2.5 x 0.74kg = 1.8 kg)
- fairing missing  ( Fairing is approx ~ 1.8 kg )

on the Scales ( inaccurate Bathroom Scales... the Bike might be a little more or a little less)
Front wheel 71.5 kg   -  158 lbs
Rear Wheel 64.5 kg    -  142 lbs

Total : 136 kg  , that's  300.22 lbs

When I calculated the weights of the Components for my rebuild in Winter 2007 and the weight savings I could "add" ( vs. my 999V2 ) and including the big open Q , which was the Frame weight ( I estimated the 1098 Frame weight 3.5 kg less than 999 ) I said to my buddies ( and maybe I've written it down here in this Web somewhere ) 136 kg is possible, including Engine Starter, Water and Oil, but without Fuel.


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Weights.

Ducati 1098 OEM : 196 kg including 15 Liters of Fuel.
15x 0.74 = 11.1 kg
196 -11,1 kg is 184.9 kg ( 408.16 lbs)

So 408 lbs is the wet weight of the OEM Ducati , without fuel.

So how to shave 108 lbs out of a OEM 1098 ?

It's not a secret, no mystery.

Check the rebuild Sections from 2007 on until today.

 


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A 1098 Semi-Hardcore rebuild weight Calculation:

Lets say I'd re-rebuild my V3 back to a level where it would have more Identity with a OEM 1098.
Of course each measurement would add weight, lets start.

- back to OEM SSSW Setup                                               + 2.8 kg
- back to OEM Alternator + Rectifier + Alternator-Cover          + 3.5 kg
- back to OEM Clutch ( or dry-slipper )                                 + 1.9 kg
- back to all OEM screws/Bolts/axles                                    + 3.8 kg
- back to normal Ti-Exhaust ( Acra or similar)                         + 2.2 kg
- back to OEM Tail with Subframe                                        + 6.1 kg
- back to std. Fueltank/Airbox/Air runner Setup                      + 7.3 kg
- back to OEM Battery                                                       + 2.0 kg
- back to OEM Brakediscs                                                   + 1.5 kg
- back to Ohlins Shock                                                       + 0.5 kg
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That's                                                                               31.6 kg  or  70 lbs

So we'd have then a 1098 with :

Real light Fork ( each Fork leg should not be more than 3.2 kg)
Ti-Exhaust
Light fairing, as mine
Mag or Carbon Wheels
Light Callipers ( Brembo GP Calipers which are~ 680 gr each )
Light Triple Clamps ( ~1550 gr )
No lights

The usual track rebuild. Such a 1098 should end up at 167 kg without Fuel.

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« Reply #36 on: May 29, 2010, 01:19:14 AM »

Durbhan's work is really good...  I have some of his Honda stuff in my shop right now!  Grin
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« Reply #37 on: May 31, 2010, 01:39:26 PM »

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« Reply #38 on: August 26, 2010, 03:32:13 PM »

I'm doing a lot of research on a lightweight bike..

Kamena did a 2v sbk chassis bike like I'm looking to build...

with no Ti frame
no ti spring
2 rotors that are NOT CMC
no carbon wheels

302 lbs.

And it isn't costing anywhere near 140k  laughingdp laughingdp




i recently started digging through the their site and some very amazing products. lower mounted fuel cell, aluminum axles, subframes, bodywork. all very nice stuff especially the 2v sbk bike.
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« Reply #39 on: August 26, 2010, 05:17:05 PM »

Hopefully my monster will be around 330 wet. Thats with no fancy wheels or any superlight parts.

That is also on a tight budget, and by tight I mean 1k for everything.

Now my bike wont make much more power than stock, but that comes later.
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« Reply #40 on: August 26, 2010, 07:07:35 PM »

" Kamena did a 2v sbk chassis bike like I'm looking to build...

with no Ti frame
no ti spring
2 rotors that are NOT CMC
no carbon wheels

302 lbs "

Which bike is that?

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« Reply #41 on: August 26, 2010, 07:16:59 PM »

http://kaemna.de/cms_en/tu_example.htm?&file=/cms_de/tu_example.htm?&ct=47

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« Reply #42 on: August 26, 2010, 07:25:48 PM »


Magnesium wheels...carbon fiber wheels...not much difference in $$.

That bike is very cool!!  waytogo
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« Reply #43 on: August 26, 2010, 07:41:47 PM »

OK, racebike.
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« Reply #44 on: August 26, 2010, 10:11:45 PM »

My 1098 R is 363 lbs.dry.

Putting out between 175-180 rwhp .

99 lb.ft. of Torque, w, other than stock, Ti Exhaust and Race ECU , no other fancy aftermarket parts.

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