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ducpainter

#1260
March 06, 2011, 02:09:33 PM
Quote from: BoDiddley on March 06, 2011, 02:06:27 PM
I have a bunch (cases and different qtys.) of Black Hills .223 I need to get rid of, less than dealer cost. Red and Blue box.   PM for info....... 

Is this permitted?  I will find out in a minute I bet.........
First of all...

This should go in the classifieds....

I have some concern about board liability if you break the law about where it's shipped and how
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ducatiz

#1261
March 06, 2011, 02:22:25 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on March 06, 2011, 02:09:33 PM
First of all...

This should go in the classifieds....

I have some concern about board liability if you break the law about where it's shipped and how

Board isn't liable unless the items themselves are illegal, which ammo is not regardless of where you live.  There might be licensing reqs for places like LA or NYC, but that doesn't affect the board since the items themselves are still not contraband.

If the items were themselves contraband (such as pharms or illegal drugs), which are not legal to possess NOR to sell, then the board could be liable for something if the posting wasn't removed.

But ammo isn't contraband by itself.   It's no different from a seller on Gunbroker.com selling ammo.  Seller has to make sure he's obeying the law and if not, gunbroker.com doesn't acquire liability.
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ducpainter

#1262
March 06, 2011, 02:25:23 PM
Quote from: ducatiz on March 06, 2011, 02:22:25 PM
Board isn't liable unless the items themselves are illegal, which ammo is not regardless of where you live.  There might be licensing reqs for places like LA or NYC, but that doesn't affect the board since the items themselves are still not contraband.

If the items were themselves contraband (such as pharms or illegal drugs), which are not legal to possess NOR to sell, then the board could be liable for something if the posting wasn't removed.

But ammo isn't contraband by itself.   It's no different from a seller on Gunbroker.com selling ammo.  Seller has to make sure he's obeying the law and if not, gunbroker.com doesn't acquire liability.
I'm pretty sure some states require ammo be shipped to an FFL, but your explanation makes sense.

Post up your for sale in the Miscellaneous forum of the classifieds Bo...
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


ducatiz

#1263
March 06, 2011, 03:02:33 PM Last Edit: March 06, 2011, 04:00:09 PM by ducatiz
No state requires it but several cities do. Ill requires the recipient to have an FOID, but that's the only STATE I know of with an unusual requirement.

Cities: NYC, LA, certain counties in northern CA, Chicago all require ammo to be shipped to an FFL.

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fastwin

#1264
March 06, 2011, 04:46:49 PM
My question is why sell it? Just go shoot it!! [laugh] [thumbsup]
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Monsterlover

#1265
March 06, 2011, 04:48:45 PM
That's kinda what I was thinking
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WarrenJ

#1266
March 06, 2011, 04:54:25 PM
Ammo needs to be shipped by UPS or Fedex or similar - not legal through USPS
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BoDiddley

#1267
March 06, 2011, 08:06:25 PM Last Edit: March 06, 2011, 08:08:41 PM by BoDiddley
Quote from: fastwin on March 06, 2011, 04:46:49 PM
My question is why sell it? Just go shoot it!! [laugh] [thumbsup]

I have plenty for the rest of my life, and my barrel twists do not like the heavy stuff.  Sorry about the trouble I pulled it,  And moved to the classifieds.
"But sire what are we to do.  You have taken all our weapons and now the heathen hordes are at the gate.  Are we to lie down and give them our lives.  Without weapons they will make us eat ourselves."

ducpainter

#1268
March 06, 2011, 08:07:55 PM
Quote from: BoDiddley on March 06, 2011, 08:06:25 PM
I have plenty for the rest of my life, and my barrel twists do not like the heavy stuff.  Sorry about the trouble I pulled.
No trouble at all.

If you ever get any extra in 40/45 grain let me know.  ;D
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


BoDiddley

#1269
March 06, 2011, 08:10:06 PM Last Edit: March 06, 2011, 08:20:11 PM by BoDiddley
Quote from: ducpainter on March 06, 2011, 08:07:55 PM
No trouble at all.

If you ever get any extra in 40/45 grain let me know.  ;D

One case of 52gr is the lightest, blue box........Are you talking bout the Flea/Market miscellaneous.  Slim chances over thier I think?
No big deal, not really trying to sell that hard.  I have many cases left over from being a dealer, and stockpiling for the war!!! [bang]
"But sire what are we to do.  You have taken all our weapons and now the heathen hordes are at the gate.  Are we to lie down and give them our lives.  Without weapons they will make us eat ourselves."

fastwin

#1270
March 06, 2011, 08:24:50 PM
Do you have 1 in 7 or 1 in 9 twists? I'm familiar with Black Hills just not the red box, blue box difference. I'm kind of a Federal Lake City kind of guy. Care to explain? Thanks! [thumbsup]
I plan to list the Federal Gov't. as a dependent on my next 1040 tax filing!

I have flying honey badgers and I'm not afraid to use them!

The fact that flame throwers exist is proof that someone somewhere said "I'd sure like to set those people over there on fire but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."

CONFIDENCE: the feeling you have right before you understand the situation.

ducpainter

#1271
March 06, 2011, 08:28:19 PM
Red is new...

blue is used brass.

The Black Hills stuff is reputed to be good stuff.

Quote from: BoDiddley on March 06, 2011, 08:10:06 PM
One case of 52gr is the lightest, blue box........Are you talking bout the Flea/Market miscellaneous.  Slim chances over thier I think?
No big deal, not really trying to sell that hard.  I have many cases left over from being a dealer, and stockpiling for the war!!! [bang]
Yeah...but that's where stuff is sold here.

Just keep it to pm's without a bunch of 'pitching' here.

Sound OK?
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


BoDiddley

#1272
March 08, 2011, 05:31:26 PM
My brother is looking to buy a progressive loader for hand gun calibers.  What is your favorites for ease of loading?  My old Hornady has to be ancient by now.
"But sire what are we to do.  You have taken all our weapons and now the heathen hordes are at the gate.  Are we to lie down and give them our lives.  Without weapons they will make us eat ourselves."

Monsterlover

#1273
March 08, 2011, 05:39:10 PM
Id recommend any brand that has a good following and die/part availability.

Rcbs, Dillon, hornady all will make usable ammo
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BoDiddley

#1274
March 08, 2011, 05:48:48 PM Last Edit: March 08, 2011, 05:52:36 PM by BoDiddley
Quote from: fastwin on March 06, 2011, 08:24:50 PM
Do you have 1 in 7 or 1 in 9 twists? I'm familiar with Black Hills just not the red box, blue box difference. I'm kind of a Federal Lake City kind of guy. Care to explain? Thanks! [thumbsup]

I used to have 1/7 for 68gr .223 that I used for long distance plate shooting,  that is why I am trying to sell the heavy stuff as I got rid of those guns.  (no pitching just a fact DP).  I have tried the heavy stuff in my military guns and got perfect keyholes everytime.  I think all new military is 1 in 7 now, (used to be 1 in 9) as they work better with the standard 62gr. ss109.  But I can shoot the 109 in all my guns no matter what the twist.  Must be a happy medium with that weight.

I could never tell any difference between the red and blue.......
"But sire what are we to do.  You have taken all our weapons and now the heathen hordes are at the gate.  Are we to lie down and give them our lives.  Without weapons they will make us eat ourselves."
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