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fastwin

#3795
August 24, 2012, 10:07:16 AM
I've got Trijicon Reflex II and Aimpoint red dots on AR platforms but I also have recently bought two Leupold AR .223 BDC scopes and really like them. I have a 3x9 on a 16" barrel semi auto M4 and mounted the 4x12 scope on a Rem 700. Both have mil-dot reticles.

Have a good friend that just recently got a Nikon M-223 AR 1-4X20 scope with "point blank reticle" on his AR flat top and he really likes it. I've shot it and I like it too! [thumbsup] It's a BDC scope also.

It's nice to have the option of BUIS, red dot or a scope on an AR... but I am partial to the Leupolds I bought. Can't go wrong with any name brand scope. My 2 cents. ;D
I plan to list the Federal Gov't. as a dependent on my next 1040 tax filing!

I have flying honey badgers and I'm not afraid to use them!

The fact that flame throwers exist is proof that someone somewhere said "I'd sure like to set those people over there on fire but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."

CONFIDENCE: the feeling you have right before you understand the situation.

Cicero

#3796
August 24, 2012, 07:44:50 PM
Does anyone have the Speer #14 reloading manual? I am looking for the load data for the Speer 125 gr JSHP (#4013) in .38 and .357 mag.  My older manuals dont have the data for the HP-38 and Titegroup I currently have been using.

Thanks.

Kopfjager

#3797
August 24, 2012, 09:32:52 PM
Woohoohoohoo! Two personal records! For breath holding and number of sharks shot in the face.

Cicero

#3798
August 25, 2012, 06:14:40 AM
searching reloading data only results in my post  :P


I figured a couple people would roll their own here.

Monsterlover

#3799
August 25, 2012, 06:18:01 AM
You could try calling speer.  They should be able to give you data over the phone, right?
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

ducpainter

#3800
August 25, 2012, 06:22:13 AM
I reload, but only for 9 and .223.

The Hodgdon data doesn't list any Speer bullets and the only 125 gr is an xtp.  http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp

I'd think that if you start at the lowest suggested load and work up watching for pressure signs you'd be OK.

Do you have a chrono?
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 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
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Cicero

#3801
August 25, 2012, 06:33:30 AM
not yet, I just got into it.

I had loaded 5 rds doing exactly that, 4.3 grs of hp-38 and titegroup (10 rounds total) to go test at the range today. Those are min loads far a 125 gr jshp in both my older hodgdon and speer manuals. I was doing some googling later on and was looking for target performance on the round, and saw gun forums with warnings that in speer #14 this particular bullet has a do not download warning with hp-38 and titegroup. The charges vary from site to site and are a bit higher than my older load data.

I was hoping someone here actually had the manual and wouldn't mind looking up the data real quick for me 

ducpainter

#3802
August 25, 2012, 06:40:09 AM
Quote from: Cicero on August 25, 2012, 06:33:30 AM
not yet, I just got into it.

I had loaded 5 rds doing exactly that, 4.3 grs of hp-38 and titegroup (10 rounds total) to go test at the range today. Those are min loads far a 125 gr jshp in both my older hodgdon and speer manuals. I was doing some googling later on and was looking for target performance on the round, and saw gun forums with warnings that in speer #14 this particular bullet has a do not download warning with hp-38 and titegroup. The charges vary from site to site and are a bit higher than my older load data.

I was hoping someone here actually had the manual and wouldn't mind looking up the data real quick for me 
I would if I had it.

I think you'll be fine with the online data, but calling Speer like ML suggests isn't a bad idea.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


Cicero

#3803
August 25, 2012, 06:45:33 AM
Ill give that a try, hopefully someone will chime in with the data.

I guess I'm shooting lead wadcutters today instead.... oh darn.  [laugh]

ducrider45

#3804
August 25, 2012, 01:34:08 PM Last Edit: August 25, 2012, 01:58:51 PM by ducrider45
So I cut out of work a bit early yesterday and got to check another item off the list! ;D




See the video clip with the link above.

This is my first shot ever with a .50 BMG! It was not as bad as I thought it might be. Im 250lbs and it still pushed me back a bit. I took 5 shots total. I hit a small yellow squash (the size of a 12oz can) at 400 yards on my first try. I missed my last shot (just high), the target (bowling pin) still fell though.

Here is a .50 AE shell (shot from my Desert Eagle) next to the .50 BMG. The rifle we used is in the background.

Cop: "That thing is so nasty I can't bring myself to write you a ticket."

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from
those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
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Washington D.C. area riders check out CAM on the local boards.

Monsterlover

#3805
August 25, 2012, 07:13:39 PM
Big boom :D
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

Monsterlover

#3806
August 26, 2012, 04:01:46 PM
Haven't been to the range in about a year so today I grabbed my sr9c and went.

I had the place to myself just like always and blew through 200 rounds in 45 minutes.

Had a great time and really didn't do too bad. I figure if I can keep my shots in an 8" target from 20' or less then I can toast anyone that gets into my house.

One thing I tried that I had not previously was one shot with a fast followup shot (double tap)

Tried that twice on 2 fresh targets from probably 10'  The first attempt had the first shot 1" under the bulls eye and the second shot keyholes the first. The second try wasn't as good but both shot were at least within the 8" ring.

A couple of questions. I have big hands. What should I be doing with my thumbs?  I've been in the habit of gripping the gun with my rights hand, gripping that hand with my left (push pull kind of thing)   if I put my left thumb against the takedown pin its really comfortable but I have to put my thumb (left one) back there after each shot. 

If I switch and lay my right thumb against the frame and my left over that (sort of inline) is way less comfortable but they mostly stay in place with each shot.

Question 2. How clean is clean?  I use a brass brush on the barrel a few times and then use that brush to push a cotton patch soaked with eezox through the bore.

The bore looks beautiful after a couple of runs through with the patch. However, there is still dirt on the patch. I ran about 15 of them through and while the dirt was really diminished there was still some there.

I get the feeling I could have put another 15 or 20 patches through it and not been totally clean. At what point do you stop?  Or do I need stronger cleaning chemicals?
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

DRKWNG

#3807
August 26, 2012, 04:08:32 PM Last Edit: August 26, 2012, 04:11:08 PM by DRKWNG
Quote from: Monsterlover on August 26, 2012, 04:01:46 PM
I have big hands. What should I be doing with my thumbs?  I've been in the habit of gripping the gun with my rights hand, gripping that hand with my left (push pull kind of thing)   if I put my left thumb against the takedown pin its really comfortable but I have to put my thumb (left one) back there after each shot.  

If I switch and lay my right thumb against the frame and my left over that (sort of inline) is way less comfortable but they mostly stay in place with each shot.



Starting around 1:05
And the sugar fountain fairy swore so hard when she came to super-size that stale hope soybean; liiiike a homeless German woman. Who is this super-sizing spirit-crushing femme? And tell her I'll break a tree root up in her shrimp.

Being faster than you thought possible…it feels good. No, screw thatâ€"it feels like shotgunning a gallon of adrenaline and chasing it with an all-night orgy aboard a burning Viking boat.

ducpainter

#3808
August 26, 2012, 04:14:52 PM
Quote from: Monsterlover on August 26, 2012, 04:01:46 PM
Haven't been to the range in about a year so today I grabbed my sr9c and went.

I had the place to myself just like always and blew through 200 rounds in 45 minutes.

Had a great time and really didn't do too bad. I figure if I can keep my shots in an 8" target from 20' or less then I can toast anyone that gets into my house.

One thing I tried that I had not previously was one shot with a fast followup shot (double tap)

Tried that twice on 2 fresh targets from probably 10'  The first attempt had the first shot 1" under the bulls eye and the second shot keyholes the first. The second try wasn't as good but both shot were at least within the 8" ring.

A couple of questions. I have big hands. What should I be doing with my thumbs?  I've been in the habit of gripping the gun with my rights hand, gripping that hand with my left (push pull kind of thing)   if I put my left thumb against the takedown pin its really comfortable but I have to put my thumb (left one) back there after each shot. 

If I switch and lay my right thumb against the frame and my left over that (sort of inline) is way less comfortable but they mostly stay in place with each shot.

Question 2. How clean is clean?  I use a brass brush on the barrel a few times and then use that brush to push a cotton patch soaked with eezox through the bore.

The bore looks beautiful after a couple of runs through with the patch. However, there is still dirt on the patch. I ran about 15 of them through and while the dirt was really diminished there was still some there.

I get the feeling I could have put another 15 or 20 patches through it and not been totally clean. At what point do you stop?  Or do I need stronger cleaning chemicals?
If you don't have any leading, or copper fouling and your groups are reasonable for the gun and ammo...

it's clean enough. ;)
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


Monsterlover

#3809
August 26, 2012, 04:27:57 PM
Quote from: DRKWNG on August 26, 2012, 04:08:32 PM


Starting around 1:05

[bow_down]

Re what he says about the thumbs, I'm doing that but the support hand thumb doesn't seem to stay in place.

Good video, I picked up some things.

Quote from: ducpainter on August 26, 2012, 04:14:52 PM
If you don't have any leading, or copper fouling and your groups are reasonable for the gun and ammo...

it's clean enough. ;)

Its never had copper through it and groups are as good as good as the operator can make them so ill call it good enough.
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**
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