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ducpainter

#4650
March 16, 2013, 05:03:39 PM
Quote from: Monsterlover on March 16, 2013, 04:56:51 PM
You can reprime military brass without swaging it?
Like I said...

I haven't had any issues on the press with Win primers. You can feel it when you come across one.

It isn't recommended...I guess.
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Monsterlover

#4651
March 16, 2013, 05:12:37 PM
I swaged all mine at a friends house so they're good forever now.

They prime easily but the starline cases are looser feeling.
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WarrenJ

#4652
March 16, 2013, 05:37:48 PM Last Edit: March 16, 2013, 05:46:33 PM by WarrenJ
Quote from: Zaster on March 16, 2013, 03:49:30 PM
What powders are you using for 9mm Hornady HAP 115 grain and XTP 124 grain bullets?

I have had great accuracy and velocity with Longshot for standard pressure and for top velocities, Vit 3N37 - its hard to find, expensive when you do, but my load exactly duplicates
the Federal Law Enforcement 115 +P+  9PBLE loading in accuracy and velocity across 7 different pistols I tested both loads in.

The Longshot loads don't have quite the velocity, but have been very reliable and very accurate.  My favorite high volume load.
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Monsterlover

#4653
March 16, 2013, 05:49:17 PM
Quote from: WarrenJ on March 16, 2013, 05:37:48 PM
I have had great accuracy and velocity with Longshot for standard pressure and for top velocities, Vit 3N37 - its hard to find, expensive when you do, but my load exactly duplicates
the Federal Law Enforcement 115 +P+  9PBLE loading in accuracy and velocity across 7 different pistols I tested it in.

The Longshot loads don't have quite the velocity, but have been very reliable and very accurate.  My favorite high volume load.

Your comment about high volume loading got me thinking.

Reloading is very zen for me. I spent 3 or 4 hours at the bench today flaring and priming 9mm and the time passed quickly, I didn't think about anything too serious. Just listened to some podcasts and music mowing through tray after tray of primers. It was a nice way to spend the afternoon.

I'm glad I got into it, especially at today's prices of $1.00-$1.75 per round of 9mm :o
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

DW

#4654
March 16, 2013, 08:26:53 PM
I got the RCBS kit up and running, all good so far. It's nice having a friend that can mentor you on your first batch. I've loaded about 4 hundred 40 S&W so far. I ran out of empty brass, so I guess that means stop.  Good news was I found a local shop that had 500 count boxes of 180 grain FMJ bullets for $69!  I'm stocked quite well and loving the reduced cost per rnd.


Now I just need to find 380 and 223 bullets. That'll be a while.

Monsterlover

#4655
March 17, 2013, 10:27:52 AM


:D
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

ducatiz

#4656
March 17, 2013, 11:09:15 AM
Southern fried brass?
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Monsterlover

#4657
March 17, 2013, 11:18:02 AM
Yep. Lead is the only item on the menu at Monsterlover's diner :)
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

fastwin

#4658
March 17, 2013, 12:07:34 PM
Nice picture. Makes me all warm and IZ_ inside. Is that bad? [laugh] [laugh] [thumbsup]
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ducatiz

#4659
March 17, 2013, 01:37:06 PM
Quote from: Monsterlover on March 17, 2013, 11:18:02 AM
Yep. Lead is the only item on the menu at Monsterlover's diner :)

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Snake

#4660
March 18, 2013, 06:02:25 AM
I've got about 20K Federal 205 Small Rifle Primers on the shelf.  That should get me through this season of USPSA (I use SR primers for my 9-Major Loads).  Only have about 4K small pistol left  [bang].  45K on backorder at Powder Valley since January...hopefully they start showing up soon.  Got lucky and found 3 lbs. of Hodgdon HS7 at a local gun store the other day.  I usually use HS6 for 9-major, but about 11 grains of HS7 under a 115 makes for an awesome, flat shooting load out of my open gun [thumbsup]
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WarrenJ

#4661
March 18, 2013, 10:25:04 AM
Quote from: Snake on March 18, 2013, 06:02:25 AM
I've got about 20K Federal 205 Small Rifle Primers on the shelf.  That should get me through this season of USPSA (I use SR primers for my 9-Major Loads).  Only have about 4K small pistol left  [bang].  45K on backorder at Powder Valley since January...hopefully they start showing up soon.  Got lucky and found 3 lbs. of Hodgdon HS7 at a local gun store the other day.  I usually use HS6 for 9-major, but about 11 grains of HS7 under a 115 makes for an awesome, flat shooting load out of my open gun [thumbsup]

That is a steamy load!  I didn't think you could get that much in a 9 case.  Is it pretty compressed?
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ducpainter

#4662
March 18, 2013, 10:34:11 AM
You guys that shoot 9 major scare me. :P
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


Monsterlover

#4663
March 18, 2013, 12:37:31 PM
Quote from: WarrenJ on March 18, 2013, 10:25:04 AM
That is a steamy load!  I didn't think you could get that much in a 9 case.  Is it pretty compressed?


I'd guess yes.  I double charged a 9mm case once to see if it would take it so I'd know if I needed to worry about that or not.

I've never double charged a case accidentally, but the 4.0grains Bullseye I load won't go in there twice.  Id guess it takes 7.0 to fill the case with the remainder spilling all over the case tray.

Maybe his powder is a smaller granule?

Just read up on 9mm Major.  Scares me too.  I like my fingers to work.
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

WarrenJ

#4664
March 18, 2013, 02:04:47 PM
I just put 11 grains of HS-7 in a 9 case.  It is a pretty dense powder and it does fit.  It leaves about an 1/8" to the case mouth.  In a properly set up gun with a fully
supported chamber and proper springs, its probably a very zippy, effective load.  With that gas volume and velocity in a comped gun, muzzle jump is probably pretty minimal and sight recovery is darn quick.

I don't think I would shoot it in a factory Glock or a 9mm 1911 without a ramped barrel.  When I first started shooting USPSA in
the late '80's, 9mm Major was the rage, but they made a rule against it at the time as too many people were having problems with it.  I saw enough problems with 38 Super Major loads in the  guns of the day. 

After 35 years of high performance reloading, I have come to the realization that pushing cartridges right to their ragged edge to get a certain level of performance usually leads to reliability issues and shortened equipment life.  I have been as guilty as anyone on this, especially when trying to get the last bit of advantage within certain rules for competition.  No different than the modifications made to race bikes to get that last advantage of speed, or power, or manuverability at the expense of longevity or reduced reliability.  Its a game we all like to play and sometimes it is expensive or bloody.

Now that I am not competing as much any more, if I need a specific amount of power or energy or velocity, I'll select a cartridge that has that characteristic in the middle of its performance range instead of trying to crowd the limits of a smaller cartridge.  I will loose the slight edge of performance or reduction in recoil, but my equipment lasts longer, is typically a bit more reliable and knowing I am not as likely to loose a finger, I shoot with a bit more confidence.  I've pushed cartridges right to the wall, sometimes to great effect, but I have also paid the price for it a couple times. 
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