GUN STUFF

Started by fastwin, June 26, 2010, 11:24:07 AM

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Bick

Second barrel was just delivered.  Almost as bad as the first one. [bang]

Now to compose an e-mail to Mossberg.  >:(

Should have spent the extra $$$ and gone with Benelli. :-\
It's all in the grind, Sizemore. Can't be too fine, can't be too coarse. This, my friend, is a science. I mean you're looking at the guy that believed all the commercials. You know, about the "be all you can be." I made coffee through Desert Storm. I made coffee through Panama while everyone else got to fight, got to be a Ranger.

* A man can never have too much whiskey, too many books, or too much ammunition *

WarrenJ

I've got a 39" Mossberg barrel for sale, back from the '70's.  It was marketed as a long range waterfowling barrel.  I've always heard them called wedding shotguns  - the long barrel being handy for the Father of the Bride to reach the Groom from the back pew. 

A lot of the larger American gun manufacturers have been churning out a lot of pretty sub-standard stuff for the last couple years, with a couple notable exceptions.   Since FN and Winchester are working together, Winchester's products are back up to pretty good quality after churning out some really poor guns for a few years.   Colt has also recently decided to start being excellent again, making some super nice guns that have more features and better price points than some of their popular competitors.   Remington, Mossberg, Marlin and Savage have been cost reducing a lot of their products and those of us who remember when these companies made pretty darn great guns are pretty disappointed with the stuff they are peddling as quality now.

As far as Mossberg shotguns go, I'd look for a used one made 20+ years ago thats still in good shape.  There are plenty of older used barrels around that are probably better quality than the new stuff you are having problems with.
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ducatiz

Quote from: Bick on March 18, 2013, 04:18:05 PM
Second barrel was just delivered.  Almost as bad as the first one. [bang]

Now to compose an e-mail to Mossberg.  >:(

Should have spent the extra $$$ and gone with Benelli. :-\

That's just weird.
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Snake

It takes about 13 grains of HS7 to fill a 9x19 case to the top.  I run Montana Gold 115 JHPs at 1.165" so there isnt much bullet in the case as-is.  I had to throat the barrel to load that long.  My usual load is 9.1 grains of HS6.  I recently sent the gun out for a chameleon PVD finish and some 1/8" barrel ports, so the charge may go up a few tenths  [evil].  I have a cupboard full of half-empty pounds of powder that I tried in search of the holy-grail of open gun loads.  I found that my splits were the fastest with a 115gr bullet at about a 175-177 power factor and an 8 lb recoil spring.  The dot never leaves the lens of the c-more.  Believe me, I would MUCH rather be running 38 supercomp, but at $150+/1000 for new Starline brass I just couldn't justify it.

Warren,
They began to allow 9-major again when they lowered the power factor for major from 175 to 165 a few years back.  I have a Schuemann Ultimatch 5.4" bull barrel in the gun.  It is a fully supported chamber.  I loaded a batch of Winchester brass 6 times to a 175PF....no problem  [thumbsup]
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WarrenJ

I was shooting IPSC when a single stack 1911 45 with a comp was a racegun.  Your Major 9 sounds line a moving rig!  I traded into an early Schumann 45, way back when shooting Second Chance and wanted to run it for pins as you could shoot a Schumann as a stock gun under Second Chance Rules, but the event ended before I could run it.  I still have it - its a smooth shooting rig.

Lately, I've been experimenting with 10mm loading and swaging special 224 bullets for subsonic performance.  Its all fun!
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Monsterlover

Quote from: WarrenJ on March 19, 2013, 09:20:27 AM
I was shooting IPSC when a single stack 1911 45 with a comp was a racegun.  Your Major 9 sounds line a moving rig!  I traded into an early Schumann 45, way back when shooting Second Chance and wanted to run it for pins as you could shoot a Schumann as a stock gun under Second Chance Rules, but the event ended before I could run it.  I still have it - its a smooth shooting rig.

Lately, I've been experimenting with 10mm loading and swaging special 224 bullets for subsonic performance.  Its all fun!

You are such a mad scientist.  You should change the name of your reloading room to "the lab"

[laugh]
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Bick

Quote from: Bick on March 18, 2013, 04:18:05 PM
Second barrel was just delivered.  Almost as bad as the first one. [bang]



It's all in the grind, Sizemore. Can't be too fine, can't be too coarse. This, my friend, is a science. I mean you're looking at the guy that believed all the commercials. You know, about the "be all you can be." I made coffee through Desert Storm. I made coffee through Panama while everyone else got to fight, got to be a Ranger.

* A man can never have too much whiskey, too many books, or too much ammunition *

Snake

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Quote from: WarrenJ on March 19, 2013, 09:20:27 AM
I was shooting IPSC when a single stack 1911 45 with a comp was a racegun.  Your Major 9 sounds line a moving rig!  I traded into an early Schumann 45, way back when shooting Second Chance and wanted to run it for pins as you could shoot a Schumann as a stock gun under Second Chance Rules, but the event ended before I could run it.  I still have it - its a smooth shooting rig.

Lately, I've been experimenting with 10mm loading and swaging special 224 bullets for subsonic performance.  Its all fun!

Man, I would love to pick your brain for about 10 hours over some beers  [laugh]  I find the reloading and experimenting almost as much fun as the shooting.  I know that I would be better off if I just picked a load and stuck with it....but that's no fun! 

I just ordered a GMR-13 from JP rifles.  It's a 9mm AR-style rifle with a new lower that takes glock mags without a conversion block.  I mainly want it to shoot steel and carbine matches, but this will also be my first suppressed weapon as well. I think some 160gr Bayou bullets loaded subsonic will still hit pretty hard and be completely silent  [evil]

For those that are interested in the 1911/2011 platform, check out www.freedomgunworks.com 
He built my racegun and just does top-notch work for very reasonable prices (when compared to other 2011 smiths) He is also currently manufacturing his own frames and working on slides, billet steel grips, machine-cut rifled barrels, triggers, magwells, etc.  He also does custom long range rifles
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WarrenJ

If I was still competing at Camp Perry for 3-P Smallbore, we could have met there.  Not too far from your neck of the woods.  PM me.
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ducatiz

Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

Kopfjager

Did a little stress shoot today. They had to run (in full kit) 50m, run up stairs to the second floor, each guy had to make a left handed shot, move to the next room and make side prone shots, move to the next room and shoot off bipods from atop a table (standing). Climb a ladder to the roof, shoot 2 more tgts, climb up onto the pitch, make 2 more shots, climb down the ladder, run down 3 flights of stairs, crawl through a tunnel, run 75m to a shooters box and engage 6 pepper poppers with pistols.
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DRKWNG

Quote from: kopfjäger on March 26, 2013, 06:49:38 PM
Did a little stress shoot today. They had to run (in full kit) 50m, run up stairs to the second floor, each guy had to make a left handed shot, move to the next room and make side prone shots, move to the next room and shoot off bipods from atop a table (standing). Climb a ladder to the roof, shoot 2 more tgts, climb up onto the pitch, make 2 more shots, climb down the ladder, run down 3 flights of stairs, crawl through a tunnel, run 75m to a shooters box and engage 6 pepper poppers with pistols.

Sounds like a good game of air-soft.
And the sugar fountain fairy swore so hard when she came to super-size that stale hope soybean; liiiike a homeless German woman. Who is this super-sizing spirit-crushing femme? And tell her I'll break a tree root up in her shrimp.

Being faster than you thought possible…it feels good. No, screw thatâ€"it feels like shotgunning a gallon of adrenaline and chasing it with an all-night orgy aboard a burning Viking boat.

Kopfjager

Woohoohoohoo! Two personal records! For breath holding and number of sharks shot in the face.

DRKWNG

And the sugar fountain fairy swore so hard when she came to super-size that stale hope soybean; liiiike a homeless German woman. Who is this super-sizing spirit-crushing femme? And tell her I'll break a tree root up in her shrimp.

Being faster than you thought possible…it feels good. No, screw thatâ€"it feels like shotgunning a gallon of adrenaline and chasing it with an all-night orgy aboard a burning Viking boat.

Bick

Quote from: DRKWNG on March 26, 2013, 06:52:24 PM
Sounds like a good game of air-soft.

Only way cooler! 8)
It's all in the grind, Sizemore. Can't be too fine, can't be too coarse. This, my friend, is a science. I mean you're looking at the guy that believed all the commercials. You know, about the "be all you can be." I made coffee through Desert Storm. I made coffee through Panama while everyone else got to fight, got to be a Ranger.

* A man can never have too much whiskey, too many books, or too much ammunition *