GUN STUFF

[CayoHueso]

why?

There was an unannounced routine visit from the ATF and they couldn't account for 10-12 Class III firearms. They cut a deal with the ATF on their punishment. Let me find the link.

edit:

Here is the wikipedia legal issue:

According to TMZ.com, during a routine inspection by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) in 2009, Red Jacket could not account for ten registered guns. In a settlement, William Hayden and Stephanie Hayden surrendered their gun-making licenses and were allowed to choose a licensed individual to control Red Jacket. Initially, that person was Vincent Buckles, but Buckles has left the company and now two other individuals control the company.[9]
In a WBRZ article, Attorney Craig Davidson, Jr., said that 10 guns did not go missing from the shop. Instead, one or two guns were stolen during 2001â€"2008. Davidson claimed the rest of the missing guns were receivers that were thrown away or destroyed when gunsmiths made mistakes. Although Davidson characterized the lost weapons as "simple bookkeeping errors", the ATF requires serial numbered parts to be tracked. Will and Stephanie Hayden did not keep track, so, according to Davidson, Hayden and the ATF mutually agreed to shut down Red Jacket, Inc. The WBRZ article is silent about Will and Stephanie Hayden surrendering any federal firearms licenses.[10]
Davidson further stated that at that time, Hayden was already in discussions with the Discovery Channel about the show and had plans to start another business, Red Jacket Firearms, L.L.C.[11] Will Hayden is not an officer of Red Jacket Firearms, L.L.C. When Davidson was asked why Hayden was not an officer, Davidson stated the reason was a "confidential business decision".[10]
Several "Red Jacket" entities are registered in Louisiana. The first is Red Jacket, Inc. (filed April 6, 1999).[12] The officer is William M. Hayden, but the corporation is not in good standing because it failed to file an annual report. The second is Red Jacket Firearms, L.L.C. (filed May 7, 2010).[13] As of January 7, 2012, the listed officers of the LLC are Joseph Whitney Meaux, Vincent Gordon Buckles, and Charles Riley Watson; neither Will Hayden nor Stephanie Hayden are listed as officers; records show that the listed officers were amended on 7/30/2010 and 6/8/2011.[13] A third entity is Red Jacket International, L.L.C. (filed April 6, 2011).[14] The officer is William M. Hayden. Other "Red Jacket" entities appear to be unrelated.
ATF has issued a federal firearms license (FFL) to Red Jacket Firearms, L.L.C


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[ducatiz]

I found it.

Woww.

I guess they don't like guns walking off...


...unless they are sending them to Mexico themselves...

[CayoHueso]

It was a simple "bookkeeping error"

come on now.


EDITED FOR REMOVAL

[ducpainter]

There was an unannounced routine visit from the ATF and they couldn't account for 10-12 Class III firearms. They cut a deal with the ATF on their punishment. Let me find the link.

edit:

Here is the wikipedia legal issue:

According to TMZ.com, during a routine inspection by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) in 2009, Red Jacket could not account for ten registered guns. In a settlement, William Hayden and Stephanie Hayden surrendered their gun-making licenses and were allowed to choose a licensed individual to control Red Jacket. Initially, that person was Vincent Buckles, but Buckles has left the company and now two other individuals control the company.[9]
In a WBRZ article, Attorney Craig Davidson, Jr., said that 10 guns did not go missing from the shop. Instead, one or two guns were stolen during 2001â€"2008. Davidson claimed the rest of the missing guns were receivers that were thrown away or destroyed when gunsmiths made mistakes. Although Davidson characterized the lost weapons as "simple bookkeeping errors", the ATF requires serial numbered parts to be tracked. Will and Stephanie Hayden did not keep track, so, according to Davidson, Hayden and the ATF mutually agreed to shut down Red Jacket, Inc. The WBRZ article is silent about Will and Stephanie Hayden surrendering any federal firearms licenses.[10]
Davidson further stated that at that time, Hayden was already in discussions with the Discovery Channel about the show and had plans to start another business, Red Jacket Firearms, L.L.C.[11] Will Hayden is not an officer of Red Jacket Firearms, L.L.C. When Davidson was asked why Hayden was not an officer, Davidson stated the reason was a "confidential business decision".[10]
Several "Red Jacket" entities are registered in Louisiana. The first is Red Jacket, Inc. (filed April 6, 1999).[12] The officer is William M. Hayden, but the corporation is not in good standing because it failed to file an annual report. The second is Red Jacket Firearms, L.L.C. (filed May 7, 2010).[13] As of January 7, 2012, the listed officers of the LLC are Joseph Whitney Meaux, Vincent Gordon Buckles, and Charles Riley Watson; neither Will Hayden nor Stephanie Hayden are listed as officers; records show that the listed officers were amended on 7/30/2010 and 6/8/2011.[13] A third entity is Red Jacket International, L.L.C. (filed April 6, 2011).[14] The officer is William M. Hayden. Other "Red Jacket" entities appear to be unrelated.
ATF has issued a federal firearms license (FFL) to Red Jacket Firearms, L.L.C

I found it.

Woww.

I guess they don't like guns walking off...


...unless they are sending them to Mexico themselves...

We won't go there...

K?

Thanks.

...and Jud...

that's once.

[fastwin]

Keep it clean people. Thanks!

[ducatiz]

what did i miss???

[ducrider45]

   That sucks, I was wanting to follow Your build. I really like the FV but the -SR looked very cool...

I may switch up projects for the sort term. Im looking for a S&W M&P 15-22. They are in every store. The trick is that I have a Kimber Compact II Stainless that I would like to trade/ sell.

[Monsterlover]

what did i miss???

SOP for this thread. . .



Anyhow, I can't stop thinking about that .44 mag picture posted.

I never figured Id need a revolver.

But I do.

[ducatiz]

SOP for this thread. . .



Anyhow, I can't stop thinking about that .44 mag picture posted.

I never figured Id need a revolver.

But I do.

Check out the Taurus 41 mag.  It flies 1400-1900 fps with up to a 240 gr ( i think that's the limit), around 1500 with the 240gr.  ammo is probably the same range as 44 mag, maybe a little less but you can use a medium frame with it instead of the Hugh Jass frame needed for the 44.

[DRKWNG]

We won't go there...

K?

Thanks.

...and Jud...

that's once.

I was waiting for that to show up.

[fastwin]

 

[Buckethead]

I was waiting for that to show up.

[CayoHueso]

We won't go there...

K?

Thanks.

...and Jud...

that's once.

Who is Jud? Why do people keep referring to me as this person. I have no idea who he is.

[CayoHueso]

I was waiting for that to show up.

You guys are clearly confusing me with another person. No idea what prompted this, but I am a bit confused. Is this some sort of closed group of the same posters that like to make jokes that new members are supposed to understand?

[The Bacon Junkie]